Duckworth Lewis method to finish the season?
Coronavirus in football
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
That rule will be changed soon I think, just as it recently has in Scotland.
Are people at any stage of this going to understand that it's not a binary thing?
How is it they're able to postpone just two hours before the game ffs? I would like to know how many positive cases some of these teams have, honestly feels like some of them are using it as an excuse.
If a team that had just been training together had a chunk test positive, then you can't be sure that the others aren't positive yet. You have to control the outbreak first.
The only games that seem to be going ahead are with teams that have really good vaccination rates. Surprise surprise. Even they aren't unaffected, but it's not a huge outbreak, moreover isolated cases in those clubs. Hopefully Rangnick beats some sense into our players, being one of the worst in the league for vaccinations is embarrassing.
How many players do we have confirmed in United squad? I was wondering myself if we're making more of it just because it suits us not to play games now?
They still reduce the chance of getting covid. Omicron spreads a lot quicker and it's easier to pick it up, but it's still less likely if you are vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Just that "less" degree isn't that big anymore I guess?
Think I read we only had 8 or 9 players available.
Premier league had a rule where a team needs to have 14 first team players fit and ready. So more of these clubs have outbreaks of over 10 players.
I wonder why professional football is so riddled with it whilst other sports in the UK like rugby, racing and darts are going along fine.
They should bring back 5 a side masters football and for any games postponed due to an outbreak. The two teams need to nominate 10 retired and 10 present footballers were half will get drawn into a squad for the 5 a side game. With rolling substitutes in use.
I see, probably more to do with isolation than actual Covid? I suppose once there's a positive case you need to isolate yourself for the next 5 days, so unless we really have a lot of players affected then Newcastle game should take place I imagine.
But again, it wouldn't surprise me if we wanted to use that situation to postpone a few games.
I think we'd need someone to apply the Lewis Hamilton method to Liverpool and City for us to get the title
It only exists for financial reasons. Or is there a joke I am not getting?
I thought about warning you, but you figured it out yourself.
So is the Arsenal game going ahead then? Seems Leeds are down to their bare bone
At this point they should just stop.
If only to really annoy Klopp and his teams Tiger Blood
Vaccine rate is around 65% in the PL which will be contributing massively to the issue.
For some reason I Completely forgot about that. Explains why teams don’t have the required amount of available players now.
Yeah this makes sense which just makes it all the maddening really.
I was surprised to see the difference in vaccination rates between the PL and other leagues in Europe. Especially when you look at the rates in the countries themselves. The UK has similar rates to most other European countries, yet there's this big gap when it comes to footballers. Wonder why that is?
From what I’m hearing at the pubs here, looks like you guys are about to head into a “circuit break” (whatever the hell that means) for two weeks after xmas. So either the PL continues with no fans, or takes a short break. I can see the latter being more likely but who knows which one they roll with.
No worries mate. I read the whole block of text if it makes you feel better.
Rugby would be a good comparison, and I'll assume you've looked into whether games have been called off, as I haven't got a clue.
But darts for instance isn't a good comparison. That's a solo sport with 2 blokes stood at a distance from each other. The competitors aren't in close knit contact with 30 other blokes all week, in a sport where you're getting right up and personal.
Indeed, surely if they have positive cases they should know well in advance, on the morning of the game at the latest?
What would have changed two hours before kick off?
The main problem is that until now there is no cure for COVID or official medicine that cures effectively the virus. That makes vaccination a bit useless but on the other hand necessary.
I'm totally with Klopp here. Why don't they just publish for every club who got and who needed to quarantine because they had close contact and aren't vaccinated.
First it's better transparency for everybody, secondly it would put some more pressure on unvaccinated players to finally get the jabs.
I don't see any benefits of making a big secrecy out of it. This will only spread conspiracy theories.
The cases of Choupo Mouting and Kimmich at Bayern should be a stem warning to all players who believe they aren't at risk because they are young and athletes.
I think some of the blame has go to the Premier League. It's possible they were informed earlier this morning or before, but they were just waiting on the PL to give the go ahead. We all saw how long it took the United game in midweek to get called off. There'd been reports all throughout the day and earlier in the week about the covid outbreak, yet somehow there wasn't an official announcement until midnight the day before the game.
Pretty sure players medical data isn’t something you can just publish. What if one player has a condition they are embarrassed about that means they couldn’t get the vaccine even though they wish they could?
Could they not just change the rule that says non-vaxxed players have to isolate for 10 days? I understood it when the vaccine prevented you getting it. But it seems with omnicron it doesn’t matter either way whether you’re vaccinated or not, you’re still likely to get it. Right now football is being decimated not because clubs suddenly have huge outbreaks. But because they have a lot of unvaccinated players who have to sit it out whether they’re negative or not.
Think the majority of Rugby games called off this weekend are down to French travel restrictions
It'll just continue with no fans. Money talks.
Christ, some of these players need conservatorship.
Anybody have a link that indicates the symptoms being experienced by the players currently?
I think it's a virtual certainty that it'll be closed stadiums pretty soon, and a real possibility that they'll suspend the season at some point during the coming weeks. If current knowledge on Omicron is roughly correct, it's way more contagious than Delta, and also vaccines won't impede the rate of infections much. That would pretty much blow apart the bubble approach, and all but guarantee a steady stream of cases and quarantinees in the squads.
Worst case, there's no cross-immunity so that in effect you get two parallel epidemics (ie, if having had Omicron don't give you immunity against Delta and vice versa). But let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Worst case, there's no cross-immunity so that in effect you get two parallel epidemics (ie, if having had Omicron don't give you immunity against Delta and vice versa). But let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Idiot should be named in the article.
Very, very low odds bet it's Fabian Delph.
He posts and likes COVID conspiracy stuff frequently, often combined with 'plant based diets can cure covid/cancer' nonsense. His wife does the same.
Personally think it's idiotic myself but if every player in the league was vaccinated it would only be the ones who actually tested positive who would be unavailable
I don't see why Villa would look to postpone the match unless they had to.
Like lack of intelligence?
Ah Delph.
Who can forget him doing a big story with Villa about how he was captain and loved the club and was going nowhere.
Then literally a day or 2 later signed for City.
How many actual positive COVID cases and how many are out due to being unvaccinated, that’s what I’m curious about? Also find it interesting that Liverpool is almost entirely vaccinated. Is that due to leadership or a complete fluke that all of there player thought it was sensible to get it?