Cop in America doing a bad job, again

Oh come on. That's a very high standard for a not very well paid job that has to deal with a hell of a lot more stress than 99% of us office drones. I have no problem at all with cops using industrial language with people that are acting the maggot. And that video conveniently doesn't include whatever shit he was getting before he lost his rag. I've worked in ER's where junkies (and drunks, who were much more of a problem tbf) caused absolute fecking chaos and the security guys regularly had to tell them to get fecked, without mincing their words. You can only take professionalism so far.

The whole gun thing would be my only major issue here but hey. That's 'Merca for you. Nobody seemed in any imminent danger of getting shot. If they had been, you can be damn sure that segment of the video would have got past the edit.

I could agree with you if one of the parties wasn't armed and legally entitled to kill you and get away with it at any time.
 
Oh come on. That's a very high standard for a not very well paid job that has to deal with a hell of a lot more stress than 99% of us office drones. I have no problem at all with cops using industrial language with people that are acting the maggot. And that video conveniently doesn't include whatever shit he was getting before he lost his rag. I've worked in ER's where junkies (and drunks, who were much more of a problem tbf) caused absolute fecking chaos and the security guys regularly had to tell them to get fecked, without mincing their words. You can only take professionalism so far.

The whole gun thing would be my only major issue here but hey. That's 'Merca for you. Nobody seemed in any imminent danger of getting shot. If they had been, you can be damn sure that segment of the video would have got past the edit.

I agree about the language. You speak to people in a way they relate. It's that simple.

He's obviously lost it there though and the comments about shooting heroin and dying was too far IMO.
 
I could agree with you if one of the parties wasn't armed and legally entitled to kill you and get away with it at any time.

At the end of the day, this bloke handled a hostile, confrontational situation without shooting anyone - or even putting his hands on them - so it seems a bit precious when people (not talking about you here) take him to task for using mean words.

Context is everything, of course. Impossible to judge his actions fairly based on that very short clip.
 
Oh come on. That's a very high standard for a not very well paid job that has to deal with a hell of a lot more stress than 99% of us office drones. I have no problem at all with cops using industrial language with people that are acting the maggot. And that video conveniently doesn't include whatever shit he was getting before he lost his rag. I've worked in ER's where junkies (and drunks, who were much more of a problem tbf) caused absolute fecking chaos and the security guys regularly had to tell them to get fecked, without mincing their words. You can only take professionalism so far.

The whole gun thing would be my only major issue here but hey. That's 'Merca for you. Nobody seemed in any imminent danger of getting shot. If they had been, you can be damn sure that segment of the video would have got past the edit.

It's Murica
 
At the end of the day, this bloke handled a hostile, confrontational situation without shooting anyone - or even putting his hands on them - so it seems a bit precious when people (not talking about you here) take him to task for using mean words.

Context is everything, of course. Impossible to judge his actions fairly based on that very short clip.

He probably thinks those junkies are a waste of oxygen.
 
At the end of the day, this bloke handled a hostile, confrontational situation without shooting anyone - or even putting his hands on them - so it seems a bit precious when people (not talking about you here) take him to task for using mean words.

Context is everything, of course. Impossible to judge his actions fairly based on that very short clip.

fecking hell. Not Shooting Anyone is such a pathetic bar to clear for public servants.
 
My cigarette packages keep telling me "Smoke this and die" (Well, it's all of you, society, doing so).

Hard to blame this officer for the same thing. Only thing of interest would be to know why he felt the need to pull out his gun, but the video doesn't show that (is there a longer version?).
 
My cigarette packages keep telling me "Smoke this and die" (Well, it's all of you, society, doing so).

Hard to blame this officer for the same thing. Only thing of interest would be to know why he felt the need to pull out his gun, but the video doesn't show that (is there a longer version?).

Methadone's primary purpose is to allow people to beat their physical addiction to heroin and in doing so save their lives.
 
Methadone's primary purpose is to allow people to beat their physical addiction to heroin and in doing so save their lives.
Right, the clinic part does add another dimension that I hadn't considered. Can we be sure they weren't shooting up heroin from this video though?
 
Person with his background doesn't think like your average joe citizen. He was probably feeling desperate once his vehicle got pulled over, and fight or flight response kicked in once he was ordered out the car
Question is why did he stop at all? Or rather , why didnt he took off the moment the officers left the cruiser and approached his car? Surely he would have better chances on the road .
 
fecking hell. Not Shooting Anyone is such a pathetic bar to clear for public servants.

Never mind shooting anyone. He didn’t lay his hands on anyone despite an obviously heated confrontation (you can bet your arse the footage would have been shared if he had) and yes, that’s a low bar but still. Don’t think it’s reason enough to share his face all over the internet and try to get him sacked.
 
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Right, the clinic part does add another dimension that I hadn't considered. Can we be sure they weren't shooting up heroin from this video though?

Probably. If they're lined up for methadone they definitely don't have any heroin.
 
No surprise it's Fox. Murdoch is the biggest cnut on this planet.
 
State of this.


He was probably standing in a threatening manner and exhibiting behaviour of an armed, dangerous man.

Imagine not following the verbal commands of a random person in your own home.

I'm sure it won't be long until a distant photo of him dressed menacingly in a hoodie comes out or that he once smoked some weed in college or something. Nothing like a good smearing when you're shot just for being in your own home.
 


they are smearing him. typical and disgusting


Oh, hadn't even seen that. Right on cue! Amazing.

What a fecked up country.

This must be difficult for some people though.. I mean part of the reason for wanting guns is to protect yourself against home invaders. So in this case, would he have been justified in shooting her? But the she is a police officer. And he's black. So many different opposing points here.
 
Her apartment needed searched that night before she was allowed to even go home. This is just nonsense
 
Oh, hadn't even seen that. Right on cue! Amazing.

What a fecked up country.

This must be difficult for some people though.. I mean part of the reason for wanting guns is to protect yourself against home invaders. So in this case, would he have been justified in shooting her? But the she is a police officer. And he's black. So many different opposing points here.

He would have been justified, but there is absolutely no way in hell that he wouldn't have been locked up that very night.
 


they are smearing him. typical and disgusting

This is the third US related thread where the words disgusting and despicable come to mind when reading through it. And, am just talking about today.
 


they are smearing him. typical and disgusting


The whole system needs to be abolished, everyone is complicit in this.

In case anyone questions why Kaepernick kneels, why Black Lives Matter and why we say feck the police - this is why.
 
What a fecked up world.
Why is it his apartment being searched?
I see nothing wrong with searching the apartment. They need to come to an informed decision (though it's pretty fecking obvious that happened). The subsequent release of the info on the day of the funeral is pretty shitty though and reeks of it being calculated.
 
Some of you are now seeing, piece by piece what minorities have been trying to highlight for decades. Their reality, our reality, may not be your reality. I get that but some of you don't.

It needs fixing. I don't know what will fix it but increasing funding and training (like I mentioned earlier in the thread) will help. Ignoring it won't, neither will waiting for it so to magically fix itself. Pretending it's all about gun laws will not fix it, pretending that POs are the only party in this that constantly fear for their lives won't either, neither will attacking or ignoring those that try to highlight and bring it to your attention, or repeatedly highlighting the fact that they aren't all bad and bigging up every time they do something right (aka do their job).

This is why I don't sugar coat what I say in this thread, because quite honestly, I'm past that on this subject...
 
Don't forget he also apparently didn't take instructions from the person who broke into his home.