Well the argument is that part of his job was to protect kids in the event of a mass shooting, where he seems to have run away.
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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Well the argument is that part of his job was to protect kids in the event of a mass shooting, where he seems to have run away.
Hence getting fired. But you can't just take someone's pension when you feel like it.
True, although the optics of him not receiving some sort of punishment beyond just getting fired will be unseemly when publicized in the media.
Asking school cops to go up against madmen with AR-15s is a bit much. I'm not surprised he didn't fancy it.
He must have worked a long long time to get that much pension pay. Wonder what their retirement formula is.
He had 25 years service. Looks like they take an average of his highest five years including overtime and he gets 100% of that.
So what's your problem with his pension?
Wow including OT and 100% of avg salary with less than 30 years.... that's very very generous.
The system is set up for the cops like that. Similar for firemen iirc.
They ““work”” a ton of overtime in their last few years to bump their pension up.
Should be based on their straight time pay only.
I'm surprised the overtime pay is factored into it since its random and not part of an official pay chart.
Yea it should be base salary. I thought most public safety pensions excluded OT. My dept has a lot of overtime so our officers would absolutely KILL it if or pensions included OT pay
Does seem a bit excessive. Not sure if other States are the same but cops LE in Florida can pick up OT working for private companies. The department provides cops as security for places like movie theaters and ports and the cops sign up for OT. We used to have a friend that worked 3-4 nights for the Port of Tampa on top of his 40 hours day shift as a detective. So basically they can give themselves a massive boost in the final five years and inflate the pension.
There are a couple of things wrong with it TBH. Like others have said his pension is excessive and the system need changing. Also this guy was on the verge of getting fired yet he handed papers in and collects an excessively large pension. It must infuriate the parents of the kids that were slaughtered while he waited outside.
He has been a public servant for well over 25 years. He didn't set the rules of how his pension is calculated and if people have a problem with his pension, they should work to change the system and not to target a single guy. Not everybody can hand in their papers and get pension anyway, it is because of his previous service. Kids getting slaughtered is because of stupid gun laws that mindless fecks in the US don't want to get rid of. If somehow the social justice mob gets to ruin this guy's pension, he's another collateral damage to the stupid gun laws I suppose.
Yeah, no fault on this guy that he’s getting such a large pension.
Hate the game, not the player.
He was eligible before he worked that day at parkland so no one can take his pension.
Contrast that with Trump who fired McCabe days before he was eligible. Nasty fecker!
Hate the game, not the player.
He was eligible before he worked that day at parkland so no one can take his pension.
Contrast that with Trump who fired McCabe days before he was eligible. Nasty fecker!
21st century Gestapo
Its a two way street - sometimes its the citizens acting up, other times its the cops.
There are plenty of cops on a power trip for sure. That is why you need to be very careful how you behave around them. At the end of the day if you are stopped by the cops they have a job to do and you will lose if you act like a dick.
Or sometimes even if you do nothing wrong, you can still lose.
Isn't the education and qualification to become a cop very miniscule in the US? Giving a hick off the street a badge after a 3 months corse isn't adviseable.
Around here it is 3-4 years, with psychology and criminal theory etc.
Then again you are not put through the same stress as a police officer around these parts. Three times the yearly murder rate in certain cities in the us with 100k inhabitants compared to what we get for the entire country with 5mill people.
Around here it is 3-4 years, with psychology and criminal theory etc.
Then again you are not put through the same stress as a police officer around these parts. Three times the yearly murder rate in certain cities in the us with 100k inhabitants compared to what we get for the entire country with 5mill people.
Not really. The standards in CA are pretty high and you need college courses and a long period of training in Police Academy.
Oh, didn't know that.
In general though I try to be careful to judge American reality through Norwegian glasses.
Owning a gun might seem alien to me, but compare the level of crime in the two countries. It might be right in certain areas of the US.
Likewise being a cop in certain areas in the US must be quite stressfull, since flat out shooting you is seen as a legit option there. The very concept of shooting or getting into a shootout with the cops in Norway is bizarre. In fact I don't think it's ever happened.
Direct comparisons becomes very inaccurate when there are such differences between reality and every day life in the two countries.
In general though I try to be careful to judge American reality through Norwegian glasses.
Owning a gun might seem alien to me, but compare the level of crime in the two countries. It might be right in certain areas of the US.
Likewise being a cop in certain areas in the US must be quite stressfull, since flat out shooting you is seen as a legit option there. The very concept of shooting or getting into a shootout with the cops in Norway is bizarre. In fact I don't think it's ever happened.
Direct comparisons becomes very inaccurate when there are such differences between reality and every day life in the two countries.
Nothing wrong there but those court summons for insurance proof are cnuts because you have to take the time off and then you get charged a court fee just for proving you had insurance. It's another way of fecking over poor people.
He could've just given her a warning but she probably didn't do herself any favors by swearing at him and calling him a skinhead cop.
Her attitude from the get go quashed any chance of a warning. I have been pulled over numerous times, often for far worse than 37mph in a 25. I have only drive off with a ticket once in maybe 15-20 stops.
That cop was super polite and would have probably just warned her if she handle herself like an adult. Not having her documentation probably didn't help either.
Funniest bit was when she asked him to call her kid's school to tell them he would be late.
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how many times have you been pulled over? wtf
for it to make any sense to say "one in 15-20 stops" it would have be a case of some multiple of 15-20 stops. so we are talking at least 30-40 stops. but then would you even say it like that? wouldnt you just say twice? so it would have to be some significant multiple of one also. so we are really talking about mike claiming to have been pulled over 40-60 times, which is just an insane amount. from a quick google it looks like his local police department has 14 officers.
so is mike getting pulled over by each officer 4 times? is it like a bell curve? is one of the officers his neighbor and sometimes when mike drives by the officer is mowing the lawn and waves at him and they chat about the weather and mike counts that as being pulled over? i have so many questions about this.
so is mike getting pulled over by each officer 4 times? is it like a bell curve? is one of the officers his neighbor and sometimes when mike drives by the officer is mowing the lawn and waves at him and they chat about the weather and mike counts that as being pulled over? i have so many questions about this.
if you had been pulled over once in 15-20 times (which is still a very high number), how would you phrase it:
"ive gotten one ticket in the 15-20 times ive been pulled over"
or
"i only get one ticket every 15-20 times ive been pulled over"
if you say the second one you are a sociopath. so this has to be bare minimum 30-40 times being pulled over.
"ive gotten one ticket in the 15-20 times ive been pulled over"
or
"i only get one ticket every 15-20 times ive been pulled over"
if you say the second one you are a sociopath. so this has to be bare minimum 30-40 times being pulled over.
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I've been driving in US from 2006 and counting the year in India, it's been 11 years. I've been pulled over once I was driving, once when my friend was driving my car. What the feck have you been doing while driving Mike?
Personally, my experience with the cops have been very good. When I was pulled over, he almost let me go with a warning but then noticed I didn't have my insurance with me and my taillight was broken. He almost apologetically gave me a ticket but advised me to go to court and pay the fine of 40 dollars when my case comes up and assured there won't be any points added. Recently, I was involved in a minor bump and there were two women sitting on the car I bumped into. They promptly said both of them had whiplash injuries and their hips and head hurt like hell. Cop came to me and asked me to remain in my car and told me that he is going to insist that the paramedics come to the scene before filing any case. Promptly the women mentioned they didn't want paramedics and the officer let me go.
I think sort of confirms that the cops probably judge by the appearance of the affected. Non-threatening Asian guy in late 30's who appears nervous while talking to a cop means he's not a danger..
Personally, my experience with the cops have been very good. When I was pulled over, he almost let me go with a warning but then noticed I didn't have my insurance with me and my taillight was broken. He almost apologetically gave me a ticket but advised me to go to court and pay the fine of 40 dollars when my case comes up and assured there won't be any points added. Recently, I was involved in a minor bump and there were two women sitting on the car I bumped into. They promptly said both of them had whiplash injuries and their hips and head hurt like hell. Cop came to me and asked me to remain in my car and told me that he is going to insist that the paramedics come to the scene before filing any case. Promptly the women mentioned they didn't want paramedics and the officer let me go.
I think sort of confirms that the cops probably judge by the appearance of the affected. Non-threatening Asian guy in late 30's who appears nervous while talking to a cop means he's not a danger..
Being polite and cooperative definitely helps with the ticket v warning issue.
I agree, but maybe a black man doesn't get that opportunity because the cop already has a bias that the subject could be dangerous. I'm completely guessing here and it's not true for all of the cops.
No kidding!
In my lifetime around 15-20 without sitting and adding them up. Mainly speeding but a couple of times for other things. Its been a long time since the last one, which was doing 68 in a 45. It was a road that everyone does at least 55 on though. Believe it or not cops are just people like everyone else. Treat them with respect and follow instruction and you will be OK 99.99% of the time. I think I have only had a run in with one power hungry idiot that wasn't that respectful to me.
For starters I don't live on Amelia yet, I am currently in north Jacksonville. Most of my stops were in Manchester or Tampa, and one in Columbus Ohio.
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Wtf, you got ICE-T stickers all over your car or something
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