Cop in America doing a bad job, again

Kills the boyfriend, then pops one in the direction of his own daughter. He seems nice…



Isn’t that a light sentence for premeditated murder by American standards?
 
In these kind of vids I end up being more angry with the crowd. Just standing videoing and almost stirring the situation.

A few years ago there was an officer , in UK, who was known by locals for terrorising local kids. These kids weren't angels but the officer was heavy handed and had the "I'm an officer so I can do what I want". He was basically a bully because he knew he would get away with it. Or so he thought. He bullied the wrong kid one day and basically got beaten up be some locals.

Generally I would never ever advocate violence. But in that vid if the old guy is genuinely not a trouble maker and is being assaulted how can you stand by and just video?

In the US I would say trying to step in and help comes with the associated risk of being shot
 
Isn’t that a light sentence for premeditated murder by American standards?
Seems to be. It ended up being a federal charge which have prescribed sentences. This might be one of those quirks in the system.
 
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GRAPHIC: Video shows man on fire after police hit him with stun gun

CATSKILL, N.Y. (AP) - Graphic video made public Friday shows a man who doused himself in hand sanitizer bursting into flames when a police officer used a stun gun on him at a New York police station in October.

Security footage released by the state attorney general’s office shows Jason Jones, 29, rolling on the floor in the Catskill police station lobby and rubbing his head to stop the flames.

Jones, who was taken off life support in December after six weeks in intensive care, was on fire for about 25 seconds and appeared to have burns on his upper back.

The attorney general’s office released the security footage as part of its investigation into Jones’ death.

Prior to being hit with the stun gun, the shirtless Jones is seen in a tantrum, ripping his hoodie and undershirt off, throwing a shoe at a table and knocking over a jug of hand sanitizer as three officers look on.

A few minutes later, Jones picks up the jug of hand sanitizer and squirts the liquid on his back and head. An officer then takes out a stun gun and shoot Jones with it and there’s a flash of light on the video as Jones bursts into flames.

Police Chief Dave Darling said officers in Catskill, about 33 miles (53 kilometers) south of Albany, were familiar with Jones from previous encounters and were likely afraid he was going to hurt himself.

Jones had been a standout track and basketball athlete at Catskill High School more than a decade ago, The Times Union reported.
 
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GRAPHIC: Video shows man on fire after police hit him with stun gun

CATSKILL, N.Y. (AP) - Graphic video made public Friday shows a man who doused himself in hand sanitizer bursting into flames when a police officer used a stun gun on him at a New York police station in October.

Security footage released by the state attorney general’s office shows Jason Jones, 29, rolling on the floor in the Catskill police station lobby and rubbing his head to stop the flames.

Jones, who was taken off life support in December after six weeks in intensive care, was on fire for about 25 seconds and appeared to have burns on his upper back.

The attorney general’s office released the security footage as part of its investigation into Jones’ death.

Prior to being hit with the stun gun, the shirtless Jones is seen in a tantrum, ripping his hoodie and undershirt off, throwing a shoe at a table and knocking over a jug of hand sanitizer as three officers look on.

A few minutes later, Jones picks up the jug of hand sanitizer and squirts the liquid on his back and head. An officer then takes out a stun gun and shoot Jones with it and there’s a flash of light on the video as Jones bursts into flames.

Police Chief Dave Darling said officers in Catskill, about 33 miles (53 kilometers) south of Albany, were familiar with Jones from previous encounters and were likely afraid he was going to hurt himself.

Jones had been a standout track and basketball athlete at Catskill High School more than a decade ago, The Times Union reported.

Wow. Not only are they stupid as feck but cowardly, too. They ran away and hid from the burning man instead of picking up one of the three massive carpets and smothering the fire.
 
Would have loved to seen the police union try to fight that one.

edit - they apparently did for five years. The game playing took place in 2017.
 
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GRAPHIC: Video shows man on fire after police hit him with stun gun

CATSKILL, N.Y. (AP) - Graphic video made public Friday shows a man who doused himself in hand sanitizer bursting into flames when a police officer used a stun gun on him at a New York police station in October.

Security footage released by the state attorney general’s office shows Jason Jones, 29, rolling on the floor in the Catskill police station lobby and rubbing his head to stop the flames.

Jones, who was taken off life support in December after six weeks in intensive care, was on fire for about 25 seconds and appeared to have burns on his upper back.

The attorney general’s office released the security footage as part of its investigation into Jones’ death.

Prior to being hit with the stun gun, the shirtless Jones is seen in a tantrum, ripping his hoodie and undershirt off, throwing a shoe at a table and knocking over a jug of hand sanitizer as three officers look on.

A few minutes later, Jones picks up the jug of hand sanitizer and squirts the liquid on his back and head. An officer then takes out a stun gun and shoot Jones with it and there’s a flash of light on the video as Jones bursts into flames.

Police Chief Dave Darling said officers in Catskill, about 33 miles (53 kilometers) south of Albany, were familiar with Jones from previous encounters and were likely afraid he was going to hurt himself.

Jones had been a standout track and basketball athlete at Catskill High School more than a decade ago, The Times Union reported.
We were afraid he was going to hurt himself (before we could get in there and do it for him).
 
It’s partially behind a fence, but disturbing nonetheless. The reactions of the owners is potentially more emotional.

People who abuse/murder dogs (with the caveat that they are not attacking the human) are psychopaths. I would bet real money that cop has previously beaten suspects or family. Cops really do love to abuse dogs it seems, but then most psychopath's do.
 
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GRAPHIC: Video shows man on fire after police hit him with stun gun

CATSKILL, N.Y. (AP) - Graphic video made public Friday shows a man who doused himself in hand sanitizer bursting into flames when a police officer used a stun gun on him at a New York police station in October.

Security footage released by the state attorney general’s office shows Jason Jones, 29, rolling on the floor in the Catskill police station lobby and rubbing his head to stop the flames.

Jones, who was taken off life support in December after six weeks in intensive care, was on fire for about 25 seconds and appeared to have burns on his upper back.

The attorney general’s office released the security footage as part of its investigation into Jones’ death.

Prior to being hit with the stun gun, the shirtless Jones is seen in a tantrum, ripping his hoodie and undershirt off, throwing a shoe at a table and knocking over a jug of hand sanitizer as three officers look on.

A few minutes later, Jones picks up the jug of hand sanitizer and squirts the liquid on his back and head. An officer then takes out a stun gun and shoot Jones with it and there’s a flash of light on the video as Jones bursts into flames.

Police Chief Dave Darling said officers in Catskill, about 33 miles (53 kilometers) south of Albany, were familiar with Jones from previous encounters and were likely afraid he was going to hurt himself.

Jones had been a standout track and basketball athlete at Catskill High School more than a decade ago, The Times Union reported.
We were afraid he would hurt himself, but not properly so we decided to do a proper job of it.
 

Honestly, they’re fecking mental.

I know it’s a tough job (my cousin and an uncle are/were coppers in the UK) but how do so many seem to have such a hard time distinguishing between say a young/fit man throwing punches or armed with a knife…. versus an older/frail man in a wheelchair who’s on the floor?

Once he’s established the real risk, so what if I took him an extra couple of minutes to put his arms behind his back… where’s the danger that merits a tasering?

I watched that and when he tasered him, I thought “idiot”, second “tool” then the third… and the fourth! (for no apparent reason other than he could), you realise the guys an absolute wanker. Sacking should be followed by a civil case.
 
Honestly, they’re fecking mental.

I know it’s a tough job (my cousin and an uncle are/were coppers in the UK) but how do so many seem to have such a hard time distinguishing between say a young/fit man throwing punches or armed with a knife…. versus an older/frail man in a wheelchair who’s on the floor?

Once he’s established the real risk, so what if I took him an extra couple of minutes to put his arms behind his back… where’s the danger that merits a tasering?

I watched that and when he tasered him, I thought “idiot”, second “tool” then the third… and the fourth! (for no apparent reason other than he could), you realise the guys an absolute wanker. Sacking should be followed by a civil case.
When you’re a hammer…

 
Word is he had a box cutter in his hand. This appears to be an execution by firing squad…

 
It would be good to know what the initial radio call was (man with a gun, man with a knife, suicidal man). Looks like a suicide by cop the way he suddenly points the object towards the officers like a gun from a concealed position. With that said, absolutely no need to have all those cops that close with no cover. All this needed was one officer with a beanbag or similar less-lethal projectile standing behind a patrol car and shooting him with it if he didn’t comply with commands.
 
Can someone explain why no-knock warrants are legal? Forget morality for just a moment, what is the current legality of this method based on?

As a non-American, it baffles me why that is legal.
 
Can someone explain why no-knock warrants are legal? Forget morality for just a moment, what is the current legality of this method based on?

As a non-American, it baffles me why that is legal.
I think the idea is that the criminals will take out their guns and prepare and ambush if they’re given notice, or destroy their drugs or whatnot. Or fire at the cops from inside the house through the door. I imagine something like that happened and the police wanted a way around it.

But it gets abused because it’s politically untenable to hold the police accountable.
 
This is fecked up. is just shockingly so unfair, sad, terrible. families broken, friends with this unjust system that not being terribly enough killing a person under this circumstances, it will not be even relevant consequences. is frustrating, such a powerless situation. feck you police system in america. feck you. you are rotten