Cop in America doing a bad job, again

At least no one died, but the real drama was a 60+ old man holding his own against a cop…

 

My hometown.

Not surprised at all. When the Rodney King riots began TPD set up blockades at all the major intersections coming into Torrance..... well not all of them, just the ones that bordered Lawndale/Hawthorne/Gardena (guess what all those cities have in common). Anyone who "didn't look right" was stopped and asked to show ID proving they lived in Torrance.

Also during the riots 3 squad cars zoomed up in front of our house and the officers used my dads truck as a shield to arrest my neighbor who was walking down the street at gunpoint. Guess what my neighbor looked like.
 
My hometown.

Not surprised at all. When the Rodney King riots began TPD set up blockades at all the major intersections coming into Torrance..... well not all of them, just the ones that bordered Lawndale/Hawthorne/Gardena (guess what all those cities have in common). Anyone who "didn't look right" was stopped and asked to show ID proving they lived in Torrance.

Also during the riots 3 squad cars zoomed up in front of our house and the officers used my dads truck as a shield to arrest my neighbor who was walking down the street at gunpoint. Guess what my neighbor looked like.
They’re notorious for being racist. With that said, they have a lot of backing and support from their community and city leaders. Proactive and aggressive policing is supported, especially against “outsiders”. That community support allows them to have one of the highest paying departments in the area, and have no shortages of recruits or outside officers wanting to join. They also have a notoriously high fail rate for probationary officers. If you don’t conform to their mold, they’ll fail you out.
 
They’re notorious for being racist. With that said, they have a lot of backing and support from their community and city leaders. Proactive and aggressive policing is supported, especially against “outsiders”. That community support allows them to have one of the highest paying departments in the area, and have no shortages of recruits or outside officers wanting to join. They also have a notoriously high fail rate for probationary officers. If you don’t conform to their mold, they’ll fail you out.

not surprising at all. I was in the Explorer program for TPD and have talked about my experiences in this thread. Even as as 15 year old who lived in a “always respect authority no mater what” household I knew TPD was fecked up.
 
The police officer has been sacked. The victim had evidently stolen a toolbox and was making his "escape". He had a knife, but couldn't walk.



Wow is there more to this story than just the officer being sacked? That's straight up murder.
 
Two days before Christmas. Animals.

they will probably get a medal for killing the suspect and a “whoopsy” for gunning down a child.

 
Two days before Christmas. Animals.

they will probably get a medal for killing the suspect and a “whoopsy” for gunning down a child.



Apparently she was trying on dresses for her quinceañera - absolutely heartbreaking.
I know its a foreign concept to some, but breaking the law doesn't mean you deserve a death sentence. Cops (and citizens) too often rely on someone being a "criminal" as justification for shooting first and going through due process later.
 
Two days before Christmas. Animals.

they will probably get a medal for killing the suspect and a “whoopsy” for gunning down a child.


Apparently she was trying on dresses for her quinceañera - absolutely heartbreaking.
I know its a foreign concept to some, but breaking the law doesn't mean you deserve a death sentence. Cops (and citizens) too often rely on someone being a "criminal" as justification for shooting first and going through due process later.

When the only tool you know how to use is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
 
Get ready for stories about how the killer “feared for his/her life” and “they are devastated by this tragedy”. They only things cops do better than racism and murdering civilians is whitewashing those very actions.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/us/pennsylvania-trooper-jay-splain-investigation.html

That was the first killing. Trooper Splain went on to fatally shoot three more people in separate incidents, an extraordinary tally for an officer responsible for patrolling largely rural areas with low rates of violent crime. All four who died were troubled, struggling with drugs, mental illness or both.

It’s not clear how common it is for police officers to fatally shoot multiple people during their careers. No database keeps track. In 2012, an officer in Scottsdale, Ariz., retired after his sixth fatal shooting. In 2015, a sheriff’s deputy in Broward County, Fla., was involved in his fourth fatal shooting.

Incredible that a single officer can kill as many civilians as entire police forces in a year in other places. Even if all of them were justified... Anyone I'd trust to be a cop would surely move to a desk job after say the third person shot...
 
If only the people in the house had guns to protect themselves...ception.
 
Not sure I could ever condone firing multiple shots blindly through a fence, but firing off multiple rounds from a rifle into the air to celebrate New Years? Those rounds are coming down somewhere.

horrible situation all around. You’d have to MMQB the shit out of that one.
 
Not sure I could ever condone firing multiple shots blindly through a fence, but firing off multiple rounds from a rifle into the air to celebrate New Years? Those rounds are coming down somewhere.

horrible situation all around. You’d have to MMQB the shit out of that one.
I know cops in the US have done some despicable things, but I would not want that job in a country where nigh every suspect can be just as if not better armed then me. The stress must feel more like army in war zone level then what other cops feel in EU countries.
 
I know cops in the US have done some despicable things, but I would not want that job in a country where nigh every suspect can be just as if not better armed then me. The stress must feel more like army in war zone level then what other cops feel in EU countries.

Its a tough one because there’s so many facets at play. Obviously I can only speak from one side, but it’s hard to describe the feeling you get when you walk up on a vehicle at night, tinted windows, and you have that split second where you don’t know what’s happening inside. Then you walk away and make a second approach and have to go through that whole feeling again.

On the flip side, I’m sure people here could tell you a similar level of stress being induced when you’re pulled over and waiting for an officer to make contact and to see how the contact is about to go.
 
Its a tough one because there’s so many facets at play. Obviously I can only speak from one side, but it’s hard to describe the feeling you get when you walk up on a vehicle at night, tinted windows, and you have that split second where you don’t know what’s happening inside. Then you walk away and make a second approach and have to go through that whole feeling again.

On the flip side, I’m sure people here could tell you a similar level of stress being induced when you’re pulled over and waiting for an officer to make contact and to see how the contact is about to go.

This is why I have no idea why LEO are not at the forefront of pushing for the strictest of gun control laws. It would take a few decades but think of being able to walk up to a car knowing it is extremely unlikely the average person is carrying.
 
This is why I have no idea why LEO are not at the forefront of pushing for the strictest of gun control laws. It would take a few decades but think of being able to walk up to a car knowing it is extremely unlikely the average person is carrying.
Freedumb.
 
Kills the boyfriend, then pops one in the direction of his own daughter. He seems nice…

 
This is why I have no idea why LEO are not at the forefront of pushing for the strictest of gun control laws. It would take a few decades but think of being able to walk up to a car knowing it is extremely unlikely the average person is carrying.

Because so many are wrapped up in guns etc as an identity.


Freedumb.

and that.
 
At least no one died, but the real drama was a 60+ old man holding his own against a cop…



In these kind of vids I end up being more angry with the crowd. Just standing videoing and almost stirring the situation.

A few years ago there was an officer , in UK, who was known by locals for terrorising local kids. These kids weren't angels but the officer was heavy handed and had the "I'm an officer so I can do what I want". He was basically a bully because he knew he would get away with it. Or so he thought. He bullied the wrong kid one day and basically got beaten up be some locals.

Generally I would never ever advocate violence. But in that vid if the old guy is genuinely not a trouble maker and is being assaulted how can you stand by and just video?