Cop in America doing a bad job, again

I hear ya.

But I don’t think you can back engineer rationalization for something. Doesn’t seem like the cops knew about the weapons when the car was initially pulled over.

It just seems a tad excessive for a littering pull over to need multiple cops to do it.

I'd guess that these guys were known to the cops and they were looking for an excuse to pull them over.
 
I hear ya.

But I don’t think you can back engineer rationalization for something. Doesn’t seem like the cops knew about the weapons when the car was initially pulled over.

It just seems a tad excessive for a littering pull over to need multiple cops to do it.

It is nice that the resident cops on here typically answer something pretty quickly. I do appreciate the input.
I imagine that would go into what they think the person littered. I.e. when you get pulled over for littering by tossing drugs out of a car, etc.

If it were here, I know for a fact that’s what our county sheriff would have his officers claiming.
 
I'd guess that these guys were known to the cops and they were looking for an excuse to pull them over.
You could be right.

That doesn’t sound legal. Seems like something that could be proven very quickly in court.
 
I imagine that would go into what they think the person littered. I.e. when you get pulled over for littering by tossing drugs out of a car, etc.

If it were here, I know for a fact that’s what our county sheriff would have his officers claim.
Thankfully the age of cameras is upon us.

I can totally see an upstate sheriff advising his deputies to do just that, especially in the sticks.

Not totally cop related, I had someone use my information to generate a false ID card up there after I moved away. I went back to figure out what was going on. I showed the clerk my license, birth certificate, bills, etc. to prove it was me. She agreed & got a deputy involved. I then asked if I could see the picture on the clerk’s computer screen to see if I could recognize who did this. Both the clerk & a deputy sheriff to whom I gave my information said that I couldn’t see the person due to privacy regulations.

My info was verified by the clerk, yet I couldn’t see who illegally made an ID for the other person’s privacy reasons.

That was bizarre to me.
 
You could be right.

That doesn’t sound legal. Seems like something that could be proven very quickly in court.
Littering is a crime, so if they did it, they gave the officers probably cause for the stop.

It would also be on dash cam.

Thankfully the age of cameras is upon us.

I can totally see an upstate sheriff advising his deputies to do just that, especially in the sticks.
Key takeaway though... if you did litter, and it’s on dashcam, you don’t really have a leg to stand on considering littering is illegal.
 
Littering is a crime, so if they did it, they gave the officers probably cause for the stop.

It would also be on dash cam.


Key takeaway though... if you did litter, and it’s on dashcam, you don’t really have a leg to stand on considering littering is illegal.
I get this, just seems like the resultant finding could be deemed inadmissible. But, I’ve never even seen a full episode of ‘Law & Order.’

The personnel involved in a pull over for a littering violation seems a tad excessive, though. Kind of goes back to what was discusses earlier about needing multiple cops for stops.
 
I get this, just seems like the resultant finding could be deemed inadmissible. But, I’ve never even seen a full episode of ‘Law & Order.’

The personnel involved in a pull over for a littering violation seems a tad excessive, though. Kind of goes back to what was discusses earlier about needing multiple cops for stops.
I can’t comment to the number of officers that responded, but I couldn’t see the stop resulting in finding firearms thrown out. The rules about searching your auto are very different than the rules about searching your home.
 
I can’t comment to the number of officers that responded, but I couldn’t see the stop resulting in finding firearms thrown out. The rules about searching your auto are very different than the rules about searching your home.
I did not know this.
 
Yeah, there’s an automobile exemption to search warrants. With regards to your constitutional rights, courts have ruled that you have less of an expectation of privacy in a car on a public road than you do in your own home.
That’s interesting.

I am now interested in the reasoning for such.
 
Yeah, there’s an automobile exemption to search warrants. With regards to your constitutional rights, courts have ruled that you have less of an expectation of privacy in a car on a public road than you do in your own home.
But my glove compartment is locked and so is the trunk around the back, and I know my rights so you’re gonna need a warrant for that.
 
But my glove compartment is locked and so is the trunk around the back, and I know my rights so you’re gonna need a warrant for that.
I mean, I can’t search anything... but good luck with the cops on that if you’ve given them “probable cause”.
 
Well, it is Thursday.

Could be justifiable, but no footage has been released yet...

https://www.yahoo.com/now/protesters-want-body-camera-video-132310830.html


It's good that there is so much scrutiny now. Someone was complaining that they don't release the cam footage right away. @Skizzo do you know if that's a legality thing or just a policy? I think the way forward is for footage to go to an independent agency right away to foster public trust. Delaying the release always seems to look suspicious.
 
It's good that there is so much scrutiny now. Someone was complaining that they don't release the cam footage right away. @Skizzo do you know if that's a legality thing or just a policy? I think the way forward is for footage to go to an independent agency right away to foster public trust. Delaying the release always seems to look suspicious.
Release of footage is typically down to state law