I wonder how many more people have to die for some to come to terms with the fact that reform isn’t going to work.
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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There needs to be a massive overhaul including defunding police depts, police unions, their pension funds, etc.
Follow the money and the rest will be obvious.
Follow the money and the rest will be obvious.
look at how much money this fecking pig made last year
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2019/orange-county/steve-hortz/
Cops in Australia doing a bad job
Wow, what a charming bunch of officers.
That boot stomp is basically attempted murder.
Police around the world continuing their stellar record in dealing with people in need of mental help.
Police around the world continuing their stellar record in dealing with people in need of mental help.
Does kneeling on suspect a standard international police procedure?
I don't recall seeing videos of cops from other parts of the world doing that.
I don't recall seeing videos of cops from other parts of the world doing that.
In Serbia it was allowed but ONLY until you got the cuffs on. Afterwards it was considered excessive force and could cost you your job.
I see the city of Louisville is going to pay the family of Breonna Taylor $12m for her wrongful death.
I hope the tax payers in Louisville take note and do what needs to be done.
I hope the tax payers in Louisville take note and do what needs to be done.
Not enough, the cops who murdered her need to be up on charges.
Right? Yet people still argue against the notion of defunding the police. This is exactly what people want to stop paying for out of their tax dollars.
Let the police cover this themselves. It's the only way to make them accountable for their mistakes. Right now it's the citizens who are accountable.
They’ll absolutely let the tax payers pay off this settlement, but still not one of the former officers has had a single charge brought against them!!!
And they wonder why people are rioting.
That's on the mayor then, though tbf maybe his hands are tied on this settlement but they (the mayors) need to be making wholesale changes now so that in the future taxpayers aren't on the hook.
Of coursethe mob, the police will be the 1st to tell the mayors if the police are defunded or the pensions have to pay settlements, that the mayor's home and daughters may not be safe anymore. That and doxxing (or whatever leaking their addresses is called).
And that time he got caught for a DUI may have to come out in public now.
Of course
And that time he got caught for a DUI may have to come out in public now.
https://abc7.com/both-deputies-shot-in-compton-ambush-now-in-stable-condition/6421149/
Whats more terrifying is that some people tried to prevent medical attention for the victims
Whats more terrifying is that some people tried to prevent medical attention for the victims
Footage from the shooting in Tulsa in June. Graphic warning and such.
Wow. Didn’t hear about this one. Not to talk shit about their tactics. But ATM (ask, tell, make). Waited way too long to pull him out. Not sure why they struggled so much doing so as he’s not a big guy. Nonetheless in this climate i can kind of understand why they were hesitant to use force.
I don't think anyone is complaining about the police using appropriate force while following procedure.
Sadly, these cops did an awful job.
There were a handful of idiots standing outside on the sidewalk shouting after the cops were already in treatment.
The way it’s being reported you’d suspect there was a coordinated effort by a mob to block off access to the hospital while the ambulances were waiting to enter. Mountain out of a molehill from the same station whose deputies just months ago executed an 18 year old security guard at work — so that one of the deputies could join the gang - The Executioners - operating out of the very same station.
I just want to check. Who do you think more resemble scum, these people or all the cops involved in both the shooting of Ricardo Hayes, a teenager with autism, and the cover up that involved demoting a fellow officer for refusing to frame the victim?
I'm asking because I haven't seen you use words even close to "pure scum" before.
I’m not familiar with that incident, but after a quick search, I’d say both.
I do, and have, used similar terms.
My mistake, then.
It’s a non issue as mentioned above. This really small group of idiots were protesting outside the hospital where the cops were being treated. They should have stayed at home.
The police arrested a young NPR reporter that was covering that protest and then said she didn’t have press ID on her when you can see it on her as she was grappled to the ground.
She probably weighs 105 lbs and was being dealt with by about 4 massive cops.
Why the cops pressed on with her arrest I’ve no idea.
Intimidation of the press?
And then to double down and say it was her fault? Asshats.
mate, as bad and stupid it is what the cops did with that reporter, that doesn´t condone or explain the terrible actions of the people that gathered at the hospital trying to prevent the two wounded officers being helped. And that`s not that, there´s footage of people celebrating and laughing at that attack
do you have better information about that? i mean, was it erroneously reported? i saw this on youtube, about people trying to stop the ambulance to reach the hospital, not just a handfull of idiots standing outside on the sidewalk, and people laughing and chanting against the police while trying to get into the hospital.
I don't know if what i saw is true, but i really don´t have the means to find out.
but if it`s true, i dont agree with you that anyone is making a mountain out of a molehill.
Sad, a good example of why in America Cops are so on edge. They should have used force much much earlier here and have been better prepared to shoot him!
This is undoubtedly a terrible incident and completely unjust. My sympathy goes out to the victims and their colleagues, friends and families.
That said, we can take some small comfort in knowing that the suspect will face the full force of the law for their crime. Something that we can't say for certain in the myriad of examples where police unjustly kill civilians.
reporter arrested in LA
this one may not show the protest but may have links to them but there are other videos and again it looked like a handful a idiots calling out the cops, right after two cops just got shot.
this one may not show the protest but may have links to them but there are other videos and again it looked like a handful a idiots calling out the cops, right after two cops just got shot.
We've got janitors here in CA making close to $270k. Govt jobs are great if you can get them. Firefighters routinely make more than $200k with overtime and benefits.
What's crazy about the story that eboue posted is that the dickhead was stealing ceiling fans from a dead man making as much as he does.
Very fecked up
yeh, like...wow. How can you make that much money and still steal shit. Guys obviously a weirdo.
Body cam footage playlist
The second video has full conversation between the mother and a cop before everything kicks off. Shooting at the end of the video.
Mother: "My son - I don't know if you've been briefed about my address at all..."
Cop: "A little bit."
Mother: "My father was murdered January 16th and literally our whole lives fell apart. Everything, my business... nothing mattered, you know? He [her son] reacts to the outfits and everything like that, there's nothing we can do about that because you're the only people we can call because the insurance... I paid a whole year's worth of salary last month for getting treatment because his insurance wouldn't cover it and they take him out against medical advice because I couldn't afford $1600 a day no more for a damn day care that is not changing him.
Cop: "So what has been going on tonight?"
Mother: "Lately I haven't been working because I've been so depressed and I've just been sending my workers and my business is spiralling because I'm depressed but whatever. The point is I worked today as we've had so many jobs and I've just came back from Ogden. I dropped (can't hear the name) off earlier because she wasn't feeling well, she had to go to the... anyway... that's another one of my workers because they had to all work late and I'm like stay because you've got to be back at 6am because we've got a big job in Murray. The point is I don't want to have them drive all the way up there and back home... it doesn't matter. He's not used to being without me for so long."
Cop: "Does he have separation anxiety?"
Mother: "I'm normally glued to him because I'm so worried about him and I normally don't ever leave but Antonio, he got a job at the airport so we were down one and I just had to put on my big girl panties and make money and deal with my life. I can't be depressed. I have to be alive."
Cop: "You have to worry about your own mental health as well."
Mother: "I mean yeah, let me tell you..."
Cop (quickly interjects): "So what's going on tonight?"
Mother: "So I'm driving home, I left my phone in my car to charge while I was at Carl's, I cleaned Carl's, came out, my phone's ringing, I answer the [audio cut for a couple of seconds] phone and it's my younger son and he's like 'Oh, so you can answer the phone for him but not for me. What did you do? Block me you fecking bitch. feck you.'"
Cop: "So he was having a little bit of an episode."
Mother: "So he was freaking out on me and I'm like [audio cut for a couple more seconds]"
Cop: "So what's your son's name?"
Mother: "Linden Cameron"
Cop then asks her to spell it and she complies.
Cop: "And how is he currently acting? Is he out of control and breaking things?"
Mother: "He's threatening to break things. I don't know if he has or not. The best thing that I've known to do is to just stop communicating with him. The more I communicate with him, the more he fires back."
Cop: "We have some notes about weapons in the house."
Mother: "I do know my worker was like 'Did you know Linden has a BB Gun?'"
Cop: "Are you sure it is a BB Gun?"
Mother: "I'm not sure. I don't know if it is a pellet gun, I don't know if it is a prop weapon because my other son..."
Cop: "But you don't know if it is a real gun?"
Mother: "I don't believe it is a real gun, no."
Cop: "So unfortunately we have to treat them all as if they are real. What is it that you want from us tonight?"
Mother: "We need him to go to the hospital. I need him to go to the hospital. I cannot get him there on my own."
Cop: "Okay."
Mother: "I can't do this every night. I won't be able to handle myself."
Cop: "Has he expressed any..."
[audio cuts out again as he's saying something and she replies]
Cop: "What about tonight?"
Mother: "He was on the speakerphone and my worker's sitting here and he's threatening my mails. He possesses me. He's a narcissist so everything of mine is not mine anymore. It is all his."
Cop: "And he's 14?"
Mother: "13. And he's almost 14 next month. He possesses everything, so he's like 'Oh, so you're with that man worker? I'm going to fecking shoot his ass.' He's just freaking out and I'm like 'Dude, I think we should call because now would be the time..."
Cop: "So who is in the house right now?"
Mother: "Upstairs is my brand new renters, who I really don't want to bother. I was thinking go through the garage, go through the alley because cars are blocking in or I can walk you down the side."
Cop: "And where's the house? It is right up here, right?"
Mother: "Up here on the right with the big wood thing around it."
Cop: "So let's talk to him and we'll go from there."
Mother: "I am so worried, but I think this is the best thing..."
Cop: "We understand he doesn't like law enforcement?"
Mother: "No, not at all. It's a trigger. He sees the badge and thinks you're automatically going to kill him or he has to defend himself in some way. He freaks out. He's got sensory disorder but we have to do what we have to do because I cannot live like this. I just can't handle it."
Cop: "Okay. We'll go and talk to him."
Mother: "Great. I would like him transported to [audio not clear] so if you can do that, that would be great."
Cop: "Yeah, I have to determine on his actions and what he says."
Mother: "He hasn't been able to control himself. My other son, he'd flip out then I'd call the cops and by the time they'd get there he'd be like 'Yes officer, she's crazy'. This one... he's off the deep end. Sometimes he sees people that aren't there, but I don't know like, we've seen a lot of weird stuff this past year."
Cop: "I understand. Do you want us to follow you in, do you want us to go talk to him while you stay out here?"
Mother: "I'll follow you in."
urgh. Bit early in the morning to watch that
For further context, the police shot and killed her father in January: https://eu.rgj.com/story/news/local...lowing-officer-involved-shootings/4606830002/
No wonder the kid doesn't like them, and, to quote her "thinks you're automatically going to kill him or he has to defend himself in some way".
View from ex-police Chief on shooting of Linden Cameron (before bodycam footage was released): https://kslnewsradio.com/1933629/ex...ut-on-shooting-of-13-year-old-linden-cameron/
Ahhh, yes, the koala bear hugging threat to the cops who had eleven rounds shot at him. This makes me sick to my stomach.
As some of the replies ask, how does this help improve public safety?