Seriously... So fecking what? Cops have fecked up regardless. Do we really have to go through the victim blaming checklist right now? People do crazy shit all the time, most of the time it doesn't end in several shots to the back.
I was simply asking the question out of frustration at the actions of the guy in getting himself shot. I'm not saying he deserved to be shot because of what he did, because that's not my belief. However, we all know the outcome of that situation because of the system that has been created over there.
Everybody and anybody could be armed to the teeth and thats why the police will happily shoot without hesitation, because in their head they are justified by maintaining the safety of them and their colleagues. Seriously fecked up, I know, but surely you understand what I'm saying here. It doesn't mean I agree with it, far from it. I'm just past the stage of being surprised by any of it, so it just beggars belief how any US citizen, particularly a black male with guns trained on him, isn't alert to the danger.
Even if he should've known better, I don't get how it's possible to play the devils advocate in this. Just burn the fecking system to the ground and start over. Hit the reset button.
I agree. The sooner they start outlawing any weaponry, the better. But neither party will give an inch because they don't trust anybody else to de-arm themselves and have been taught by the ancestors that it's their god given right to carry arms. The problem is too entrenched in their system, they're all fecked.
As disgusting as this sounds, there’s a decent shot they will not get in any meaningful trouble from this shooting as they will undoubtedly state they were fearful from the victim potentially reaching for a weapon in his car.
Exactly. We've seen cases like this many times and know full well that they won't hesitate to shoot if they perceive anything you do to be a threat. There's probably equally tragic cases of police officers being shot because they didn't prevent a suspect from reaching into concealed spaces. It's all a self perpetuating problem.
I take bigger issue with the police blasting the guy on the floor that was trying to follow jumbled orders. I saw the video when it first happened and I've never watched it since as it's truly harrowing to watch. In that situation I just can't make any sense to why they shot him and it looks like a genuine case of a trigger happy cop looking to kill.
People dont always act rationally when in situations of high stress however professionals such as the police trained to deal with high stress situations really should be able to handle this situation better.
Yeah that's true. That's why having police and civilians armed is such a big issue, because any irrational behaviour, mental illness, whatever, quite often leads to death.
I can’t comprehend watching that video and having my first thought be to critique the actions of the guy getting shot 7 times in the back.
No need to try and fire your brain up in this instance, because that wasn't my first thought.
I just worked through all the immediate thoughts about the whole situation in the US with their police and racism, and it left me thinking "why didn't you just stop still and do exactly what you're told? Don't risk getting shot in front of your kids and family for nothing".
The best thing that anybody can do over there in the immediate future is to drum into people exactly what to do in these situations. Don't try to make a stand when you've got guns pointed on you. You know they won't hesitate to shoot. Give yourself the best chance and just do as your told. If you're innocent then at least stay alive to fight your corner.
I mean, at some point you need to look back at this and see the problem.
Don't get me wrong, I get what you are trying to do. However a man has been shot 7 times in the back, in a country you don't know and a situation you've never been in...Tell me, what makes you the person to play "devil's advocate" here and then go on to say how you'd react in that very situation?
Maybe I'm just different to you in that i know without a shadow of a doubt that I'd just do as I'm told because I've seen too many of these situations go downhill via the media. A high percentage of people, i would guess, do just that. Otherwise we'd probably see these instances every 10 minutes coming out of the US.
This Statement should not be the first thing you say when you see that video, no matter what you think about how he acted he did not deserve to die this way.
I never said he deserved to die, nor did I ever even allude to it. See my posts above. I'm just at the stage where I'm frustrated to see people get shot by police in America because they don't understand the gravity of the situation when they have guns pointed at them and police frantically telling them to stop what they're doing.
This doesn't apply to all cases of course, because many of them obviously are caused by police with bad intentions. But when you see somebody take no notice of what they're saying and keep pushing and pushing until they eventually shoot, I don't know... it's just a damn shame that you have to be left wondering if their actions could have prevented it. Thankfully in this case, the last I heard they guy is still alive, so hopefully there is a better outcome this time.
