Cop in America doing a bad job, again

It's as if the one LEO has waited his entire career to point the weapon (AR-15 or M-4, not sure, possibly neither) and was gonna milk it for however long as possible.
I truly believe this is at the core of the issue. The mindset to want to engage with a civilian physically in some regard is overwhelming in many LEOs. Ammosexuals, MMA dorks, call them whatever you want, but these ‘peace officers’ just want to force project as doing so offers them something approaching a sexual feeling. It’s a deep seeded psychosis that doesn’t get weeded out during the hiring process. And people suffer greatly due to it.
 
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I actually think I believe her. Seems plausible that a friend could have written 'KKK member' in her bio as a joke and that she didn't know how to edit it due to technological incompetence, which is further supported by her claim that she thought deleting the app would delete the account.

If that's indeed the case, then she didn't deserve to be fired. But I guess in today's environment, police prefer just doing dumb shit like this instead of making any meaningful changes.
 
I actually think I believe her. Seems plausible that a friend could have written 'KKK member' in her bio as a joke and that she didn't know how to edit it due to technological incompetence, which is further supported by her claim that she thought deleting the app would delete the account.

If that's indeed the case, then she didn't deserve to be fired. But I guess in today's environment, police prefer just doing dumb shit like this instead of making any meaningful changes.

I don’t know if I can buy that she wasn’t aware what ‘KKK’ stood for
 
I don’t know if I can buy that she wasn’t aware what ‘KKK’ stood for
I overlooked that bit apparently, but yeah, that's not really believable at all. Can't picture anyone American, and certainly not someone in the American south, not knowing what the KKK is.
 
I overlooked that bit apparently, but yeah, that's not really believable at all. Can't picture anyone American, and certainly not someone in the American south, not knowing what the KKK is.

I've had people create a social media account for me and not used it (while they could still theoretically take control of it once more) and I've had people write problematic shit on my fbook when I was younger and still had it (while I'd left it logged in or left the room, crap like that) so I could definitely believe that it wasn't her who wrote it. But yeah the denila of knowing the KKK part is a stretch.
 
Yeah, that was straight up murder. He was cowering down in the most submissive way possible and the cop, probably nervous and scared, fired on him. It does make me wonder, how often does owning a gun cost lives in a home vs save them? Surely if he did not have a gun, he would still be alive. I will never have a gun just because I think it serves to escalate situations just like this. That being said, the guy was within his rights, reacted properly and was still murdered.
A lot to unpack there.
Ask the NRA, they’ll tell you it’s always better to have a gun. They also won’t admit that having a gun increases your chances of being shot.
 

What’s staggeringly amazing is that this cat survived the murder attempt after having half a clip emptied into him at point blank range. And it came so easy to that police officer to fire off half a dozen rounds into him.
 
I really don't understand why and how a cop can do this. I mean... how on earth can you defend this in any way?

I get that the guy might be reaching for a weapon in the car or something like that. But to shoot the guy in the back 7 (!!!) times? I mean.. Wow. I literally don't understand how this is possible. Why not shoot him in the leg at least? What happened to tasers? So many questions.

Are they taught to act like this? Even encouraged/obliged to by their superiors? Are the people in charge of this insane behavior (police education, higher ranking superiors, politicians) ever held accountable?
 
Jesus, what was he thinking? I'm not even American but you've got police pointing guns at you, you don't try to get in your car. Their first thought is always that he could be reaching for a gun.
How does that end up being the thing that sticks out to you in a video where a police officer shoots an unarmed man seven times in the back?
 
How does that end up being the thing that sticks out to you in a video where a police officer shoots an unarmed man seven times in the back?

Don't try to go down that road with me, because it's been discussed a 1000 times on here and I completely understand the main issues at play here. I'm skipping past all that (racism, guns, police brutality) and just wondering, given everything the he and we know about police over there, why he still decided to try to get into his car. We all know how their police operate, one slight false move and its over. Do you understand what I'm saying?
 
I really don't understand why and how a cop can do this. I mean... how on earth can you defend this in any way?

I get that the guy might be reaching for a weapon in the car or something like that. But to shoot the guy in the back 7 (!!!) times? I mean.. Wow. I literally don't understand how this is possible. Why not shoot him in the leg at least? What happened to tasers? So many questions.

Are they taught to act like this? Even encouraged/obliged to by their superiors? Are the people in charge of this insane behavior (police education, higher ranking superiors, politicians) ever held accountable?

They are taught to act like this. That's the problem. They will shoot to completely stop him in his tracks. If they shoot him in the leg, that won't stop him grabbing his gun. Maybe if they shot him in the leg before he got to his car, sure, but then we'd be questioning why they did that.
 
They are taught to act like this. That's the problem. They will shoot to completely stop him in his tracks. If they shoot him in the leg, that won't stop him grabbing his gun. Maybe if they shot him in the leg before he got to his car, sure, but then we'd be questioning why they did that.

It's a much better/milder(?) thing to be questioning, though. I mean. I'd rather be questioned about why I shot a guy in the leg than 7 times in the back.

Also. Tasers. Have the police stopped using them or what?
 
Its is always the civilian that always has to act 100% rationally, the cops don't have any responsibility. :rolleyes:
 
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Don't try to go down that road with me, because it's been discussed a 1000 times on here and I completely understand the main issues at play here. I'm skipping past all that (racism, guns, police brutality) and just wondering, given everything the he and we know about police over there, why he still decided to try to get into his car. We all know how their police operate, one slight false move and its over. Do you understand what I'm saying?
I'm not trying to go down a road, I just don't think focusing on his actions is what we should be doing. There were so many more options available to them, and they failed to execute a single one before he got to his car, and then they went from zero to attempted murder in a split second.
 
It's a much better/milder(?) thing to be questioning, though. I mean. I'd rather be questioned about why I shot a guy in the leg than 7 times in the back.

Also. Tasers. Have the police stopped using them or what?

I know but I doubt they would just shoot him in the leg because he could potentially try to get in his car. Playing devils advocate a bit here, but they tried to stop him getting into his car. If he had stopped then he might not have got shot.

I'm absolutely not condoning anything the police have done here, by the way. Just wondering what he was thinking. I mean, I'm not American but if I was over there and their police had their guns on me, I'd be unbelievably careful in every action I took until the situation was under control and their guns away. We know how trigger happy they are - I just can't believe he ignored everything, especially in this current climate where these issues are at the fore. I mean, it's almost like he's tried to make himself a martyr, this possibility must have crossed his mind when he ignored them. It's shit, really shit. But I feel like completely avoidable. I don't get the feeling that these police were like some of the others that were looking to kill, just following their shitty training.
 
You've got to be stupid to do what he did. Seriously, you lean into your car where they can't see your hands, we all know what happens next in that backwards country.
It's easy for you to call him stupid but you cannot guarantee how you would act if you had a gun drawn at you. There are a million things thise policemen could have done before pumping seven shots in his back.
It's a disgusting lack of respect for another person's life.
 
It's easy for you to call him stupid but you cannot guarantee how you would act if you had a gun drawn at you. There are a million things thise policemen could have done before pumping seven shots in his back.
It's a disgusting lack of respect for another person's life.

I'm sorry but I absolutely do, I wouldn't take it this lightly and I bet nearly everybody else would do as they're told in that situation. I honestly can't believe he's just ignored them. We've seen it so, so many times now. Reach for your pockets, your glove compartment, whatever, and you get shot. He simply has to know this if I do.

If I had the US police with guns at me I'd just do what they asked and would talk to them about any movement I'm about to make. It's simply a losing battle to try to resist when they can and will just end you for so little.
 
Don't try to go down that road with me, because it's been discussed a 1000 times on here and I completely understand the main issues at play here. I'm skipping past all that (racism, guns, police brutality) and just wondering, given everything the he and we know about police over there, why he still decided to try to get into his car. We all know how their police operate, one slight false move and its over. Do you understand what I'm saying?
I'm sorry but I absolutely do, I wouldn't take it this lightly and I bet nearly everybody else would do as they're told in that situation. I honestly can't believe he's just ignored them. We've seen it so, so many times now. Reach for your pockets, your glove compartment, whatever, and you get shot. He simply has to know this if I do.
Seriously... So fecking what? Cops have fecked up regardless. Do we really have to go through the victim blaming checklist right now? People do crazy shit all the time, most of the time it doesn't end in several shots to the back.
 
Even if he should've known better, I don't get how it's possible to play the devils advocate in this. Just burn the fecking system to the ground and start over. Hit the reset button.
 
I really don't understand why and how a cop can do this. I mean... how on earth can you defend this in any way?

I get that the guy might be reaching for a weapon in the car or something like that. But to shoot the guy in the back 7 (!!!) times? I mean.. Wow. I literally don't understand how this is possible. Why not shoot him in the leg at least? What happened to tasers? So many questions.

Are they taught to act like this? Even encouraged/obliged to by their superiors? Are the people in charge of this insane behavior (police education, higher ranking superiors, politicians) ever held accountable?
As disgusting as this sounds, there’s a decent shot they will not get in any meaningful trouble from this shooting as they will undoubtedly state they were fearful from the victim potentially reaching for a weapon in his car.
 
Hope the lad pulls through. Absolutely sickening.
 
You've got to be stupid to do what he did. Seriously, you lean into your car where they can't see your hands, we all know what happens next in that backwards country.
People dont always act rationally when in situations of high stress however professionals such as the police trained to deal with high stress situations really should be able to handle this situation better.
 
I can’t comprehend watching that video and having my first thought be to critique the actions of the guy getting shot 7 times in the back.
 
I’ve gotta be honest, both sides are to blame.

Trigger happy US cops who only know to shoot when faced with adversity/non compliance and don’t consider a multitude of other options first AND a guy reaching into his car having ignored said trigger happy cops who must surely know what happens next. Obviously they’re gonna think you’re going for a gun so they’ll shoot you, why do it?

All in the backdrop of the current situation where surely both sides are aware of how things appear?

He absolutely didn’t deserve to die but it was only going to end one way given all the factors at play. To see only one side to blame in either direction is part of the overarching problem.

Just add it to the shitshow pile that is America in 2020.
 
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Why are you pointing your gun at a guy's back while he's walking away from you?

There's only one answer, and that's that you've resolved to shoot him and not apprehend him.