But when a bunch of heavily armed white dudes literally storm a government building it’s fine, and the police just stand and watch.
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But when a bunch of heavily armed white dudes literally storm a government building it’s fine, and the police just stand and watch.
That tweet baffled the shit out of me until I saw your comment to read the thread.
Stories like that are absolutely heartbreaking and shines a light on the privilege we have as white people in not having to think about stuff like that at every moment of our lives.
Anyone who hasn’t watched this documentary yet absolutely should do, its on Netflix.
America is making its own open (and closed, Mexican border) concentration camps, just like China with the Uigar Muslims, Israel with the Palestinians, Nepal with Rohingyans, Modi with disowned, etc. Obviously they get worse press, rightfully so, but we should not be blind to where things are headed. A camp does not have to be physical, it can be mental and conceptual too.
No amount of prominent black Americans can change that. Not even a token ex-president.
Edit: just saw Rado's post above.
I'm sure there is racism at play and I have no trouble believing that police in general react differently depending on skin colour, but I would say the situations are still apples and oranges. The "open our hair salons" protests were tense, but in a sense contained, whereas once police cars get torched the line into violent escalation has been crossed. The presence of assault rifles also plays a role: you get heavy handed with those rednecks and just one of them starts shooting you could have hundreds of dead people.
why can't people just talk to the pigs, we've got decades of evidence that doing nothing works so well
It's not modern. From the moment the slaves were 'freed', to maintain them as a commodity, they were being rounded up on any dubious charge, given absurd sentences and put to work in prisons across the country performing the same labour at the 'behest' of slave owners, who were then prison governors. This is business. Big, big business.
It's not afoot, either; just being brought into the light from the darkness it's ably straddled for centuries.
Any attempt to 'rise up' or even live a separatist existence, crushed, swiftly. I assume you know about Black Wall Street?
True reform would cost the country billions in lost revenue through a well that'll never run dry there. There'll be no real change as it makes no sense, on any level, for the powers that be to entertain.
You can thank the hilariously outdated and incompatible with modern society Constitution for that kind of crap. Taking certain outdated books far too seriously is the biggest cause of the dumbassery in the US.
No, but I will be looking up Black Wall Street now.
There is unquestionably racism at play and I can’t agree that the situations are “apples vs oranges” at all, unless you’re including the entirely peaceful protests against police brutality that were met with violence from the police, which are indeed different to the others and further highlight the issue.
Yeah, this one was really unsettling, the poor guy who got murdered had two young kids too. It's 'looking after your own' taken to a whole new level.
National Guard being called in. There’s also protests kicking off elsewhere like LA.
Why the hell are they burning there own city and local markets. Protest sure. But destroying innocent people's homes or looting isn't fair for anyone. That's not justice.
Surprised how many were there but understandable really. Losing more lives won't solve anything and will just exacerbate matters.
Easy to say from the comfort of home. I'm sure they have protested peacefully many times, and they still get criticized (bending the knee during the anthem), but most importantly, nothing has changed. They still get murdered and treated like less than human.
Violence breeds violence.
Sometimes, like the French Revolution, violence is the only way you think you got going forward. It's a last resource situation for people who has nothing to lose.
won't somebody think about the bricks
Allegedly a lot of the fires have been started by undercover officers
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There was another thread I saw explaining the same thing. Gonna have to do digging to find that one and will edit it in also.
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There was another thread I saw explaining the same thing. Gonna have to do digging to find that one and will edit it in also.
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The only persons IQ which is obvious here is your own. Sadly it's not pretty.
This is the exact thing that is what's really meant by terms like 'white privilege', sure people will twist it to try and make it about money but it's not. Not even close.
Ask any black person and they'll give you dozens of examples.
It's not reasonable to live like this, but we're forced to do it still because there's no choice.
America is a land built off the backs of millions of innocent people they enslaved, gave them no reparations but continued the racial discrimination to this day.
You want to talk about justice? it's been 400 years and there's been no justice for black Americans, quite frankly America is lucky that they haven't burned the entire place to the ground.
Merchandise can be replaced, and often times is covered by insurance. Human lives can't, and the trauma of having to live with this as a black person is too much.
If you have a plan I’d like to hear it. I just don’t see how it’s possible.
why can't we all be reasonable and do a twitter hashtag instead, it's something i, a kindly liberal who definitely agrees with your aims, can feel good about
That reminds me of a news story I read a few months back: police had a kind of run-in with local black people, and afterwards were beating their shields and chanting "Whose house? Our house!"
Chilling and disgraceful.
Imagine what it'll be like when he walks or gets a lesser charge like manslaughter?
Don't get me wrong. I don't blame the outrage one bit. Black people in are getting royally fked in america on a daily basis. I saw it first hand when l went there for the first time. In Florida. Poor fella got slammed on to the bonnet of a car for no fecking reason. He simply put his hand on the officer shoulder to try and explain what happened as a witness and his partner just went for him.
I supposed they are doing it to be taking seriously and make them bastards listen. Obviously I'm not really judging. Do what they have to do for some justice.
You naive soul, we do it every other months for far less than that.
One good thing about french police is that if you give them the opportunity, regardless of your skin color or professional occupation, they will batter you. There is no discrimination on that front.
Spend more money on making things better.
It's that simple really. Don't tell me America can't afford it.
At some point the cost-benefit analysis of having lots of poorly trained officers doing bad things would have to tip the scale towards taking more time to train people, even if it means fewer officers at a given time.
Is that the issue though? Because I don't think that these officers acted the way they did due to poor training but based on pure contempt.
Do you ever feel like a tipping point has been reached that will break the camel's back and turn the country upside down (as opposed to a few days of rioting before the usual cycles repeat on themselves)?
You naive soul, we do it every other months for far less than that.
One good thing about french police is that if you give them the opportunity, regardless of your skin color or professional occupation, they will batter you. There is no discrimination on that front.
French protesters are big source of inspiration.
Not at all. The elites have an even tighter grip on power than ever before. It's no contest.
Martin Luther King said that riots are the voice of the unheard. This is them expressing themselves, and quite frankly I don't blame them.
People are angry because they know that this isn't the beginning, middle or end, this is just what it's like to be black and that they, or someone they know could be next.
How can you reconcile that feeling? You can't. It's generational, unprovoked daily trauma.
Black people are murdered by the very people sworn in to protect them, and nothing happens. Maybe this cop will face justice, but he didn't act alone - and if it wasn't for video it's unlikely he would've been or reprimanded. But ultimately nothing will change.
Like I said, America is lucky black people didn't torch the entire place earlier.
Im just catching up on all this after being shamefully ignorant of what has been going on. Its genuinely a bit upsetting to see some of this - like the twitter thread and the "autistic person lives here" image linked earlier. I dont know what the solution is at this point, and I think its only going to get worse. feck knows where we (they) end up.
One the one hand, the rioting is bad. On the other hand, its understandable, and seeing the difference in policing between certain protests is just another vindication of it, really.
One the one hand, the rioting is bad. On the other hand, its understandable, and seeing the difference in policing between certain protests is just another vindication of it, really.
I'm not saying that's the issue with regards to Minnesota. I'm commenting on the discussion that is currently being had in the thread about the stark difference in police training in the US (a few months) vs. some countries in Europe (a couple to a few years).
French protesters are big source of inspiration.
I wonder how the US would cope if tomorrow 65m of french were swapped with 65m of americans. With easy access to rifles and guns, I give it a couple of weeks for the start of the second American revolution.
The prejudices we are encouraged to adopt even influence our perception of looting and looters:
Looters during revolution or pre-revolution: 'Justifiably angry, deprived people'.
Black looters at any time: 'Perennial thieves'.
Looters during revolution or pre-revolution: 'Justifiably angry, deprived people'.
Black looters at any time: 'Perennial thieves'.