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There are no long term managers, just the successful ones. Or to say it differently, nobody can be long term, unless they are successful. And that's where the building process should start from.
Not single one of Conte's jobs ended in tears, as people relentlessly claim in this topic week in, week out. No, he didn't shit the house at Juventus, nor has he downgraded them. He set a perfect foundation for Allegri to work in, after taking over terrible Juventus side before. Calciopoli was in 2006 and Juventus was back in Serie A in 2007, but by the time Conte took over nobody took them seriously anymore. And then he set records with them and made unprecedented dominance.
Chelsea also didn't burn down after he left, and he left on high.
How exactly is Conte to blame for Inter too? He took them to second, then won them the league and left because he wanted guarantees that Inter will keep improving, eyeing to one day win the Champions League. Nobody gave him guarantees, so he left. In fact, he didn't stab anyone in the back (apart from Juventus fans obviously, by taking over Inter), he resigned before Inter even started planning for new season. So it was a very fair move by him. And Inter haven't crashed and burned after him, they are still number one candidates for Scudetto.
This long term thing is silly, wherever Conte has been, he's left things in far better state than they were before him.
The longest serving manager in this league is about to go down.well said bro. how many of the top clubs have long terms managers (10 years and above) ?
Real Madrid and Chelsea winning many trophies despite changing managers like changing underwear.
I'm thinking both Son and Kane would have made that transition under any semi-competent manager.Forwards who made the transition to world class under Pochettino's tutelage
I'm thinking both Son and Kane would have made that transition under any semi-competent manager.
Kane was still in Augusta by the looks of it. I’d like to see the reaction if someone like Pogba had swanned off to the States to watch the golfShocking performance.
I'm thinking both Son and Kane would have made that transition under any semi-competent manager.
Looks like Ronaldo was right
What? Kids shouldn’t be allowed mobile phones?
Nobody will escape cafe microscope of being shit as a manager not even pep.First Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
Solid post, but no Frankfurt are 9th in BL for a reasonFirst Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
First Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
I think it’s fairly well known that if Conte gets 4th with Spurs we should have appointed him but if he doesn’t he’s a fraud and we dodged a bullet. It’s important to change your opinion on managers after every single game, only then can you say you were right at some point.First Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
You forgot one of the most hated manager on this forumFirst Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
First Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
They are all shiiit.First Julian Nagelsmann sucks because he got knocked out by a well drilled Villareal side. Then Xavi is a fraud because his Barca side who are in the middle of a rebuild and who have done well under him lost to a good quality Eintracht Frankfurt. Now Antonio Conte who ended Juve's 10 year stranglehold on Italian football is overrated because he lost a game to a Brighton side who have been praised a great deal this season, and who have a good coach.
I think I am going to avoid these manager threads from now on. I dread to think of what will be said about Erik Ten Hag the moment we have our first setback.
I agree. We missed a trick again by sidestepping a manager who will properly shake things up. And i also stand in solidarity with your concerns about locked threads, which itself was ludicrously locked, otherwise i would comment there.The way Spurs play and move the ball around is night and day compared to our slugfest.
You forgot one of the most hated manager on this forum
Kinda hit and miss From what I recall.Is La Parisian reliable? I only added it because it has a source and tagged both clubs.
Correct.I think it’s fairly well known that if Conte gets 4th with Spurs we should have appointed him but if he doesn’t he’s a fraud and we dodged a bullet. It’s important to change your opinion on managers after every single game, only then can you say you were right at some point.
Strange rumor. His character and management style is very ill fit to PSG culture in theory.
What? Conte fecking loves money. Everywhere he's gone he's demanded the owners replace the whole team and buy him whoever he needs to win titles. PSG is the perfect fit for him.Strange rumor. His character and management style is very ill fit to PSG culture in theory.
I can't see Conte leaving Spurs unless Levy doesn't deliver what he promised. 4th place or not Conte is doing an excellent job with Spurs.
I don't know him that is correct, I only assume when he accepted the Spurs job he knows the challenge he is going to take on. To me personally Pochettino took Spurs to the final of CL is as good as it gets for his coaching ability given Spurs resources. it is the same even if Klopp and Conte don't win the EPL they are still top coaches.I am afraid you do not really know him and what winning deeply means to him: he does not give a feck about 4th place trophy and now that United hired Ten Hag, there is no reason to showcase his skills at a lower club anymore.
I don't know him that is correct, I only assume when he accepted the Spurs job he knows the challenge he is going to take on. To me personally Pochettino took Spurs to the final of CL is as good as it gets for his coaching ability given Spurs resources. it is the same even if Klopp and Conte don't win the EPL they are still top coaches.