Conte | Spurs Manager
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They have made the exact same mistake that we made with Mourinho. Don’t bring in this kind of manager if your not going to back them in the transfer market
Not a fan of Conte, never have been so possibly will be biased here.
But, I think with Conte you're always getting a short term manager, just like Mou, and if you can't get results in the short term it's better to let him go and look elsewhere. The side is not the greatest obviously, but from what I've seen of you, barring a few games you haven't looked convincing at all.
Also, I think losses to Burnley, Southampton, Wolves individually aren't bad results per se as one off. But them happening over the span of 4 odd games is concerning. Either ways, I think you're back to post Bale days (with Kane seemingly on the way out), and you will need to find the next Poch, Eriksen, Son, etc. and build back up
Must be very disconcerting as a player if your manager is behaving like this after literally only saying a few days ago it was the best set of players he he worked with.
legend, thanks
I agree with this, I don't think Conte is the right manager for spurs. Don't get me wrong I think he's a very good manager for a club that is in a position to compete. Right now, spurs are not there. They'd be better off with a manager who can build a club, an identity as you say. Potter would be perfect for them, but the question is would be work with someone like Levy?
Won't be long before the fans start turning on Levy I feel.
For what?
Fans turned against Levy about two years ago mate
For the mess they are in!
Got rid of Poch for a dinosaur in Mourinho...then for some inexplicable reason, sacks mourinho a week before a cup final?!
Hiring Nuno when it was clear he wasn't the right man for the job.
Poor succession planning when it was clear the likes of alderweireld, dembele, vertonghen were coming to an end.
It was never going to work out, we could all see that. Just really glad we didn’t move for him, I was very keen on it after giving up on Ole after the Liverpool result.
Conte is a top drawer manager and spurs are spurs, it just doesn’t fit. They should adopt a Dortmund/Porto style of trying to sign the best young players available, giving them a chance and making good profit after a few years. Whatever it is they are now, isn’t really working out as there is too much competition for top four and it’s going to get much worse once Kane finally escapes.
Conte is a top drawer manager and spurs are spurs, it just doesn’t fit. They should adopt a Dortmund/Porto style of trying to sign the best young players available, giving them a chance and making good profit after a few years. Whatever it is they are now, isn’t really working out as there is too much competition for top four and it’s going to get much worse once Kane finally escapes.
Yeah but that's what they get for building a new stadium instead of rebuilding the squad and supporting Pochettino. The Spurs fans were giving it large about their cheese room and beer taps that fill pints from the bottom up when they were building the "best stadium in world football".
They can blame Levy all they want but they were equally as compliant, acting as if they'd established themselves as a top 2 side and won a bunch of trophies.
Levy will ultimately get the blame for poor planning of the football side of things, but these issues happened seasons ago. Today, they've brought in Conte and all he's done is moan about the things he agreed on when he came in. He's complained about the squad at every opportunity, there's been one January window since he signed, seriously, what's he expecting to happen? Now he's saying Spurs have to question his place at the club because they've lost 4 in 5. He's just deflecting from the shit job he's doing.
I agree about Conte, great manager but not what Spurs needed right now! But again, the man who appointed him has to take responsibility and should be held accountable for yet another poor decision! Hiring a manager is one thing but if you don't support and back him in the way he wants (like city did with Pep), then its just going to lead to more failure.
I agree, they should have gone for a Hassenhutl or a Potter when Jose left but that wouldn't have appeased Kane's ego. It's hard to sell that you're trying to win trophies when you bring in a squad builder or transitional manager.
Levy hired Fabio Paratici (who's mates with Conte) to be the director of football, with Levy taking a step back on all footballing matters, or at least having someone else to blame when it goes to shit. They've done their best to support him but Conte is just being his usual nobbish self because he didn't get a tonne of cash or new players in January.
Conte is a toxic manager, I am glad we did not go for him. He was toxic at Chelsea, Inter and 6 months in and is about to throw his toys out the pram because he didn't get experienced players in January.
That’s a strange one from Conte. Listening to him you get the impression that he thought the Spurs job was something different to what he actually came into
Also sounds like he's suggesting he's doing them a favour by being there. Must be really tiring for Spurs fans to keep hearing him go on about his position there.
Laughable reaction from him after yesterday. Instead of owning up to your errors you moan about how you're better than this.
Couldn't be happening to a better club (the khunts will still finish above us, mind)
Couldn't be happening to a better club (the khunts will still finish above us, mind)
Antonio laying the groundwork for him bailing.
He came in because a big pile of cash was waved at him.
Doesn't particularly feel like you were paying much attention for that span of time. Pochettino was absolute toast, and had a Juande-Ramos-type cup run that masked irretrievable form in the league. Jose was brought in to make the most of a squad that had reached the CL final and was in a reasonably good position to win. He lost the plot when he started twitching about people complaining about leaking goals, exactly the same as at united, and had started to nuke the dressing room by telling Son and Kane they needed to leave etc. He was essentially sacked before the Cup final because of all of that, but I also suspect that sending that version of Mourinho into a cup final against that version of City would have left an indelible stain on recent history. As it is, we lost - but practically everyone has forgotten about it.
Alderweireld was replaced by Sanchez at the time his 'release clause' was the hot topic
Dembele's replacement was Ndombele
Eriksen's replacement was Lo Celso
Vertonghen was replaced by Romero
that's basically £200m of replacements in four players, all of which except Romero were Pochettino's choices. And they were terrible.
A lot of people are disrespecting Conte here, he hasn't been backed as he thought he would be in Jan and is taking it out on the board. The funny thing is the same posters criticising him here wanted Ole to do the same thing.
Conte is a winner and he has all my respect, he's done well at Spurs compared to where they were when he joined, he's putting pressure on the Spurs board that if they don't back him he's gone. Simple as. Levy will have to make a decision in the summer and if not Conte will walk. He's much better than Jose who would purposely look for the sack and get the payoff.
Conte is one of the best managers in the world. He's a winner. Winners are toxic. You want a manager who's all smiley at losing stick with Ole and see where you end up.
I know one thing, give Conte the money we gave Ole and the same amount of time, we would've won at least a trophy.
You think Pep would even consider the Spurs job ? You think he would've took the City job if they didn't promise him crazy levels of investment ? Is he toxic ?
Conte is a winner and he has all my respect, he's done well at Spurs compared to where they were when he joined, he's putting pressure on the Spurs board that if they don't back him he's gone. Simple as. Levy will have to make a decision in the summer and if not Conte will walk. He's much better than Jose who would purposely look for the sack and get the payoff.
Conte is one of the best managers in the world. He's a winner. Winners are toxic. You want a manager who's all smiley at losing stick with Ole and see where you end up.
I know one thing, give Conte the money we gave Ole and the same amount of time, we would've won at least a trophy.
You think Pep would even consider the Spurs job ? You think he would've took the City job if they didn't promise him crazy levels of investment ? Is he toxic ?
Romero looks absolutely brilliant - agree on Lo Celso, N'Dombele and Sanchez though.
He seems quite broken in that interview. I don’t see it as an attack on the board. More self-doubt, if anything.
Ndombele and Lo Celso cost nearly 100 Mill, terrible terrible signings.
It's all good and well for United to get it wrong (and we have countless times) but for Spurs who hardly invest in their squad those were absolute howlers and may be one of the main reasons they are in the position they're in atm. I think if Conte could get 40 mill for both of them now he'd bite your hand off.
It's all good and well for United to get it wrong (and we have countless times) but for Spurs who hardly invest in their squad those were absolute howlers and may be one of the main reasons they are in the position they're in atm. I think if Conte could get 40 mill for both of them now he'd bite your hand off.
Romero looks absolutely brilliant? Just like Dier right?
What is it with Spurs-fans and throwing superlatives around (you’re 8th!), I am convinced you are GlastonSpur or a close relative. Van Dijk is brilliant, Kane used to be brilliant, Romero has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is anywhere near this level.Romero looks absolutely brilliant? Just like Dier right?
He does look brilliant - he looks like a really top player. Why are you bringing Dier into this? Nobody has said Dier is a brilliant player - you are just being obtuse. Kane also is still brilliant.
Does he have to tell us 1000 times that he’s not used to being in this position?
we get it Conte, you win titles ffs
we get it Conte, you win titles ffs
You are right in the sense that we can't afford to make big mistakes in the market - the likes of Utd, City, Chelsea, etc. make mistakes regularly but have almost unlimited funds so it hardly matters - with us one or two bad signings can set the club back years. Unfortunately we have made some absolutely terrible signings for big money (for us) and they have been a disaster.
It's nonsense too because he didn't play Ndombele and LoCelso anyway and they don't particularly suit him. He showed no interest in Dele Alli. He got in the two good Juventus players, which most managers would be more than happy with for just January signings. Rangnick got nothing, even if he's an interim.
He's not as good a manager as he thinks he is. He's a lot closer to Mourinho than he is to say Klopp.
The league has changed a lot since he was last here and he's not going to get hundreds of millions to blow out the competition like he did at Inter.
The league has changed a lot since he was last here and he's not going to get hundreds of millions to blow out the competition like he did at Inter.
Exactly, I mean everyone knows its not easy to sign in January.
Also, everyone tells me a coach is meant to improve players, who has Conte improved?
Rangnick got rid of players, didn't get any in, he is still trying to coach these players into better players rather than saying they are all rubbish.
But Simon Jordan told us we were just putting our own narrative on Conte?
edit he’s talking some shit on TalkSport right now putting his own narrative on Conte. Total hypocrite
edit he’s talking some shit on TalkSport right now putting his own narrative on Conte. Total hypocrite
I don't understand this narrative at all.
They are where they were when he joined.
He done no where near a good job
What should Spurs have done in January?
Winner's are not toxic, they hate losing, there's a difference. You can be a winner without telling everyone else they're shit and not up to your level, that's called "small dick energy".
We may have won a trophy under Conte, but at what cost. See Jose's time at United for a good example.
Pep wouldn't have joined City if they didn't offer him stupid money so your point is irrelevant.
Klopp is toxic ? He hasn't had the level of backing the rest have had.
Also, respect Conte and what not, everyone knows what Spurs are like, he should have done his own research.
Pep took City job because he knew they will spend, there was history of City spending before he joined. Conte rejected Spurs for a reason in the first instance.
I have 0 sympathy for Conte and if he is the top tier coach people say he is, surely he should improve some players?
It was a bad fit. Spurs did a huge mistake by not going for someone like potter in the summer. Funny had we lost that game to spurs in October, we could have appointed conte and maybe Spurs would have gone for someone like Rangnick. I feel a Rangnick like personality would have done better than Conte for Spurs.
Go on name one. You can't be a winning manager or even player without having a bit of assholeness about you.
Klopp is an outlier, which is why I believe he's the best manager in the world. He's a modern day Fergie in that sense. However, people do seem to romanticise Klopp a bit, see his starting 11 when he first joined Liverpool and the one that won the UCL, why did he have to change his whole team ? Couldn't he have just made his players better, maybe good enough to finish top 4 without a drastic change of personnel ? Maybe he didn't need Trent and Robertson when he had Clyne and Moreno ?
Klopp has an eye for a bargain and his recruitment policy is brilliant, however, don't change history and act like he didn't gradually sign a brand new starting 11 to make them compete.
I don't think we were ever interested in Conte. He was very gettable for us in the weeks leading up to Ole's departure, and we decided to stick with Ole who was in free fall at the time.