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Thus says Kemo
indeedAlso let alone current Harry Kane being equal to prime Kane? Or Romero being equal to Alderweireld? Absolute madness.
indeedAlso let alone current Harry Kane being equal to prime Kane? Or Romero being equal to Alderweireld? Absolute madness.
I don’t think it’s about luck at all. They struggle to deal with Kane in that pocket with Son or Moura as the runners in behind. At no point today did they not look vulnerable despite having 90% possession for the first 15 minutes of that second half.City won the xG in both league games this season, 2.32 to 2 today and 2 to 1 in the away game. They've just been unlucky or maybe have psychological issue with Spurs after that CL semi few years ago.
City won the xG in both league games this season, 2.32 to 2 today and 2 to 1 in the away game. They've just been unlucky or maybe have psychological issue with Spurs after that CL semi few years ago.
City won the xG in both league games this season, 2.32 to 2 today and 2 to 1 in the away game. They've just been unlucky or maybe have psychological issue with Spurs after that CL semi few years ago.
I am pretty sure 1 whole point in that xG for City comes from their penalty. So it's 1.32 in case the provided stats is correct. So without Romero brainfart individual error, the stat pretty much agreed with the eye test: City doesn't created more easy chances.Or maybe that means xG means feck all because football is more than just stats on an internet site.
ThisOr maybe that means xG means feck all because football is more than just stats on an internet site.
ding ding dingOr maybe that means xG means feck all because football is more than just stats on an internet site.
Yep, Spurs have the right mixture of players to take them on (ie: Son and Kane).They’ve played that exact same game numerous times over the years against city and won under both Jose and Nuno. That’s the blueprint for how to beat City.
Exactly. That penalty was 0.96 xG. Spurs won both the "open play xG" and the "on target xG" statistics. And they had 4 big chances vs City's 2.I am pretty sure 1 whole point in that xG for City comes from their penalty. So it's 1.32 in case the provided stats is correct. So without Romero brainfart individual error, the stat pretty much agreed with the eye test: City doesn't created more easy chances.
"Better wins"
Didn't City knock us out of 2 cups semis and just humiliated us this season?
Am surprised there are still Ole apologists around. Anyway, Conte being a top class coach isn't even a topic for discussion, because he's indeed.
No Apologists here, more sky and no doubt your narrative too, they completely parked the bus, and beat city a way that's happened a lot.
I'm just pointing out how ridiculous he all was watching the match
Explain the "Ole getting better wins" nonsense, because the "better win" narrative has to be one of the most ridiculous phases I have seen here recently. There's no win better than another.
When we defeated them 2-0 in 2020 with Scott's long range goal, we had 28% possession percentage in this game.
And the 2-0 win last season in Etihad had us with 34% possession and conceding 23 shots from City.
Otherwise, the knocked us twice from EFL cup semi, and humiliated us this season while playing in 2nd gear.
"Better wins".
Rubbish.Conte parked the bus and seemingly they scored with every opportunity they had.
Spurs could play that game another 9 times and they'd lose everytime.
Ole did that last seasonRubbish.
City benefited from a calamitous goal keeper error, an offside (by a gnats cock) goal and a penalty ….and they still LOST!
Spurs have taken 6 points off City this season.
He was well offside to be fairRubbish.
City benefited from a calamitous goal keeper error, an offside (by a gnats cock) goal and a penalty ….and they still LOST!
Spurs have taken 6 points off City this season.
Well it was a very very big gnats cockHe was well offside to be fair
Rubbish.
City benefited from a calamitous goal keeper error, an offside (by a gnats cock) goal and a penalty ….and they still LOST!
Spurs have taken 6 points off City this season.
Lucky let off for City he was. He didn’t gain any advantage by being offside. The tactic of switching quickly to wide players was spot on. As shown again by Kulusevski’s assist for the third goal that stood.He was well offside to be fair
Just dividing opinionsI’m in to this late but what’s your point?
Just dividing opinions
That’s fair. I also think Pep played into Contes hands and he still freezes against attacks with pace when the defensive block is functioning well.Lucky let off for City he was. He didn’t gain any advantage by being offside. The tactic of switching quickly to wide players was spot on. As shown again by Kulusevski’s assist for the third goal that stood.
I smell a trap, however….Go on? what’s the options? Curious as to what drum you’re banging and why
I smell a trap, however….
Wanted Conte at Utd.
Like his passion, heart on sleeve, must win mentality.
Excepted he may not be a good fit for the Utd board.He’d of been good but potentially other issues.
Think we are doing the right thing by taking a slow decision and sorting the back room and structure out. We need to do this properly for the long term.
Excepted he may not be a good fit for the Utd board.
Who knows, if/when he falls out with Levy where he’ll go next.
Difficult to say either way, though think Levy most certainly will want/have to offer a contract extension if Spurs get top 4.He’s got 18 month deal. I don’t think he’ll stay
Given Spurs squad and spending that would be an achievement for them.They are like United under Ole!
If this were true then every team in the league would deploy the same tactics Vs City and they would be in the relegation zone if there is nothing special about it as you claim. Seems to me it's a bit more than that.the tactics he used is the best way to beat city. That was why ole was successful at it because it was the type of football that he deployed. Nothing special about it. If he had out possessioned city like poch did with psg last season, or I believe Arteta did as well this season before they got a red, that would have been more impressive.
the tactics he used is the best way to beat city. That was why ole was successful at it because it was the type of football that he deployed. Nothing special about it. If he had out possessioned city like poch did with psg last season, or I believe Arteta did as well this season before they got a red, that would have been more impressive.
Not sure why you put out those meaningless stats as most fan even the delusional one would say that a champion league final, their league best finish and highest point tally, and consecutive season in champion league in much better than the ones you mentioned. That is why those managers you listed are no where to be seen.
Conte has a much better squad than his predecessor. Definitely has much better depth. The starting eleven Conte is a bit more stronger, but Conte has better talent to choose from the bench which with his predecessor, if one of their talent got injured, they had the likes of llorente, Edward's, winks, skipp, and other very average selection to choose from.
Lloris = lloris
Tripper > royal
Verthogen > Sanchez
Alderweireld = Romero
Rose < regullion
Sissoko < hodjberg
Dembele = bentacur
Son = son
Lucas = Lucas
Lamela < begwein
Kane = kane
I am a bit worried if he does get backed in the summer. It's not how I would like us to set up, so glad we didn't go for him, but can't deny he's extremely effective when he gets all his players in line with his philosophy.
XG is one of my most hated stats. It's just bollox.Or maybe that means xG means feck all because football is more than just stats on an internet site.
You’re laughing but you’re actually wrong.
As you highlighted United didn’t concede a goal and had more of the ball. They were better wins.
every team in the league doesn’t have good enough players to deploy such tactics. It works on occasion with clinical finishing and luck going your way, and it is the best way to beat such a dominant possession oriented team.If this were true then every team in the league would deploy the same tactics Vs City and they would be in the relegation zone if there is nothing special about it as you claim. Seems to me it's a bit more than that.
rose wasn’t better IMO, lamela is not better either. But regardless, do you believe you have better depth now or before? I can give you Dembele though, just because bentacur hasn’t established himself yet in the league.Do you ever have a clue about what your on about? Prime Dembele was one of the best midfielders in the league, Rose was better than Regulion, Lamela is better than Bergwein. You just make things up to suit your agenda, it’s quite embarrassing.
Mh, not sure i'd agree to that. Conte *can* be reactive in certain games, but for the most part he isn't. His teams are usually very recognizable for their patterns of play, he's one of the managers with the most automatisms around, and his teams generally want to play on the fron foot. Don't mistake the lack of a constant high press for reactionary tactics. It's one of the reasons why he doesn't really like stars who need more tactical freedom and imo why his teams often struggle in CL, when the level is usually higher - they're predictableConte is a reactive coach like Mourinho BUT the big difference is that Conte wants to win games while the late Mourinho and coaches of this mould like Benitez etc dont want to lose. This is a big plus for Conte because in this way this type of football can be effective.
Agree. Ole after getting destroyed by Liverpool decided to played 5 at the back, and played counter against Man City earlier this season. Without proper coaching, bodies are meaningless seeing how City played us off the park despite being on their second gear.If this were true then every team in the league would deploy the same tactics Vs City and they would be in the relegation zone if there is nothing special about it as you claim. Seems to me it's a bit more than that.
Predictability is one of his biggest flaws, yes, but what i want to point out has nothing to do with it. Reactive coach in my definition is every coach who counts mainly on the mistakes of the opposition on and off the ball - his plan is a reaction to what the opposition do. Proactive coaches are the ones with clear plan on how they want their teams to play and take the game to the opposition. Conte is a reactive coach by definition because his teams are not the ones that set the tempo of the games and control the outcome. That doesnt mean that his plan is not clear or that he doesnt want to win these games. On the contrary his system when executed properly is a very effective way of winning.Mh, not sure i'd agree to that. Conte *can* be reactive in certain games, but for the most part he isn't. His teams are usually very recognizable for their patterns of play, he's one of the managers with the most automatisms around, and his teams generally want to play on the fron foot. Don't mistake the lack of a constant high press for reactionary tactics. It's one of the reasons why he doesn't really like stars who need more tactical freedom and imo why his teams often struggle in CL, when the level is usually higher - they're predictable