Conspiracy! Suarez reopens Evra race row with attack on Manchester United

Either Phil Duck is a WUM, or he just has a inflated sense of himself and wants to be recognized.

I noticed that in two separate threads he has come out with the same nonsense, about having a particular opinion that it is not safe to share. First in this thread:

Phil Duck said:
You completely missed the point, what I mean by "surreal moral standar" is to think a person is racist because of this incident. The world is not as black or white as the european or angloxason moral standars try to make it seem. Suarez is not defined as a racist person because of this issue.

The other point about "If he didn't want to be judged by moral standards of other countries he should've stayed in Uruguay" has a lot of cultural and political implications, Suarez goes to the money goes, Europe is richer than South America in result of a huge colonization and capitalistic history, I have a strong formed opinion about it but I don't think this is the place to discuss it, just think twice about the implication it has to make a claim like that.
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And also in the Ronaldo thread (where, no surprise, he has a strong dislike of Ronaldo):

Phil Duck said:
Well, I'm going to be honest, I have a very formed opinion on Ronaldo and why he's not on the list of the best players ever, but the mod ask me to go slow and this is just my first day as a full member, so I'm going to keep that to myself.
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I guess formed opinions are basically prejudices - in the Evra instance he has formed his opinion without bothering to listen to any of the evidence that was gathered by an independent panel - with the excuse is that he doesn't trust the FA (but is happy to trust the words of a self-serving, proven liar in Suarez...).
 
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Didn't he also pinch Evra's arm and kept calling him 'blackie', I really can't comprehend how that can be justified even the famed 'cultural' misunderstanding excuse.

I don't think Suarez is a racist and i don't know the guy personally so can't really comment whether if he is a great guy or not. But one thing for sure he is a total scumbag as a sportsman the evidence is clearly there with all the highly controversial incidents he's been involved in. If it was just a cultural thing why don't we see Diego Forlan or Edinson Cavani behaving the same way? they are from the same country and culture as Suarez. If anything he's a deeply troubled man and wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of mental condition.
 
swooshboy said:
Either Phil Duck is a WUM, or he just has a inflated sense of himself and wants to be recognized.

I noticed that in two separate threads he has come out with the same nonsense, about having a particular opinion that it is not safe to share. First in this thread:



And also in the Ronaldo thread (where, no surprise, he has a strong dislike of Ronaldo):



I guess formed opinions are basically prejudices - in the Evra instance he has formed his opinion without bothering to listen to any of the evidence that was gathered by an independent panel - with the excuse is that he doesn't trust the FA (but is happy to trust the words of a self-serving, proven liar in Suarez...).
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Phil Duck has a vastly inflated sense of himself. He's so desperate to be seen as balanced and intelligent, yet any person of real intelligence would at least read the report and use that as part of his case. I enjoy characters like this, so full of contradictions.

Fact is, how can it be simply brushed off as 'cultural differences' when the term was used whilst Suarez was trying to wind Evra up? He was already being hostile when he said the words, it's safe to assume he said those words in a hostile manner too.


Unless Ducky wants to correct me on this.
 
This book looks like a Tompkins job to me. Self justifying deluded pile of old shite, written with the RAWK Christmas market in mind.
 
2mufc0 said:
Didn't he also pinch Evra's arm and kept calling him 'blackie', I really can't comprehend how that can be justified even the famed 'cultural' misunderstanding excuse.

I don't think Suarez is a racist and i don't know the guy personally so can't really comment whether if he is a great guy or not. But one thing for sure he is a total scumbag as a sportsman the evidence is clearly there with all the highly controversial incidents he's been involved in. If it was just a cultural thing why don't we see Diego Forlan or Edinson Cavani behaving the same way? they are from the same country and culture as Suarez. If anything he's a deeply troubled man and wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of mental condition.
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That's what Evra says, and video shows a pinch. After Suarez changed his story and contradicted himself the FA found Evra to be the more reliable witness and accepted his testimony.

Whether the use of 'negro' that Suarez admitted to would translate more accurately to 'black' or 'blackie' I don't know. Evra took it at the time to mean 'n*****' though he later came to view it as meaning 'black' (or however you wish to translate it). However the FA still saw this as racist behavior.
 
‘I had every intention of shaking Evra’s hand in the team line-up before the match. I had spoken to my wife about it before the game and said that I would. As I was walking down the line, Evra was shaking everybody’s hand, but he lowered his hand when I reached him. He shook Jordan Henderson’s hand before me, and his hand moved downwards, away from mine. The images are there for everyone to see. My hand stayed outstretched at the same level but once he’d lowered his, I thought: “Okay, he’s not going shake my hand,” and I continued along the line. Once I had passed him he started with the show of grabbing my arm and protesting that I hadn’t shaken his hand. And he looked towards Sir Alex Ferguson to see if Daddy was watching. If it was a trap, I fell into it.’
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This is from his new autobiography apparently and taken from this article(which is excellent btw); http://sabotagetimes.com/football/journalists-must-stop-pandering-to-luis-suarezs-lies/

What an absolute twat.

EDIT: Seems it has been apparently posted but still the article which I posted is worth a read.
 
Remember kids, never call black man a racial slur, there might be a Manchester United trap nearby.

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I haven't read it, but if he said what he said, what a perma teething, racist, cheating scum bag

But let's be honest here.....the majority of people can't hold him in any lesser regard as a person than they already do no matter what he says, so meh who cares
 
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