If we were talking about striking technique in general (including boxing, MMA, real fights etc.) then sure, his technique will naturally have its own advantages. In the narrow context of a boxing fight though his technique will simply be less effective, which makes it a bit shit.
Conor McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather | Again?
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If we were talking about striking technique in general (including boxing, MMA, real fights etc.) then sure, his technique will naturally have its own advantages. In the narrow context of a boxing fight though his technique will simply be less effective, which makes it a bit shit.
He's got some pop in his left hand which he sometimes throws long but he does throw a lot of arm punches. Even from that short clip you can see he drops his right hand and falls away when he throws the left - he's not always fully extending it and he tends to fall in because his weight distribution isn't right (probably because he can normally kick too). I don't get why people think he's quick either.
The general standard of boxing standup in the UFC is massively overrated within their organisation. The lack the subtle nuances and technique of a boxer at the level he'll be facing in a couple of weeks - particularly defensively. I've seen Mayweather fight live twice and his foot speed is phenomenal - he's brilliant at taking a little half step back and countering which he'll do all night long. He certainly won't be rushing in with his face like Aldo did.
The idea Floyd won't be able to figure him out because Conor may make a few unorthodox movements from side to side (which will be a total waste of energy) is ridiculous. He's going to get countered to death and then when he starts to tire he'll be picked off at will.
The general standard of boxing standup in the UFC is massively overrated within their organisation. The lack the subtle nuances and technique of a boxer at the level he'll be facing in a couple of weeks - particularly defensively. I've seen Mayweather fight live twice and his foot speed is phenomenal - he's brilliant at taking a little half step back and countering which he'll do all night long. He certainly won't be rushing in with his face like Aldo did.
The idea Floyd won't be able to figure him out because Conor may make a few unorthodox movements from side to side (which will be a total waste of energy) is ridiculous. He's going to get countered to death and then when he starts to tire he'll be picked off at will.
'Pretty' much
Indeed it is.
Also, the mechanics of striking in MMA are totally different for various reasons, to the point where a boxer coming into MMA would struggle even with the stand up striking aspect of it. That difference in striking mechanics will only be highlighted more in boxing given the more narrow skillset and higher level of expertise involved.
Mayweather will pick McGregor apart with ease.
Great posts in here by some knowledgeable posters.
I find it unbelievable Connor hasn't hired an actual boxing trainer rather than "striking coaches"...
On a separate note, is there any drug testing for this fight?
Do any UFC fans think Connor is roiding like Floyd will be?
Do any UFC fans think Connor is roiding like Floyd will be?
"Will be" - If you are that sure Floyds doping, then yes Conor is too.
Any time I see "Floyd Mayweather VS..." I generally go with Mayweather on points, unless something uncommon happens. His defensive work makes world class fighters look like slow motion action figures. His ability to avoid attack whilst throwing out sharp 1-2 punches consistently round by round is what makes him the best. McGregor's best chance is the same as most less skilled but powerful/aggressive fighters. I.e, he needs to do some real damage early, whilst Mayweather is still judging their speed, reach, hand movement, etc. This is the only time he is ever visually in danger, when the other guy is fresh and comes out the traps like a tiger. It gets much harder to land anything worthwhile as the rounds go on.
Sadly, this is brand vs brand as much as anything else. Although I think lots of British/Irish punters aren't aware of just how big a star Mayweather is, he dwarfs McGregor in earning power. But he also has more to lose, it's his sport, he has the clean sheet. I don't think McGregor is going to be the mug some people think, as he can take a punch. But I fully expect this to look respectable for him as he takes a points loss, so that Mayweather gets the 50-0 that he wants, McGregor gets the massive increase in fame and reknown for being ballsy enough to take on a master in his own field, and they both earn between them something like 1.2 Neymars in the money scale.
Sadly, this is brand vs brand as much as anything else. Although I think lots of British/Irish punters aren't aware of just how big a star Mayweather is, he dwarfs McGregor in earning power. But he also has more to lose, it's his sport, he has the clean sheet. I don't think McGregor is going to be the mug some people think, as he can take a punch. But I fully expect this to look respectable for him as he takes a points loss, so that Mayweather gets the 50-0 that he wants, McGregor gets the massive increase in fame and reknown for being ballsy enough to take on a master in his own field, and they both earn between them something like 1.2 Neymars in the money scale.
Isn't that "something uncommon" him fighting someone who doesn't even have an amateur history of Boxing? I'd maybe buy Vasyl(obviously hypothetical given weight) going the distance at 0-0 but essentially losing in a real Boxing match.....but yeah, not Conor and I'm not sure this is real. It's a "let's get rich baby".
It is uncommon. McGregor did box amateur as a kid though and has trained aspects of boxing his whole life. They say that heart is the most important attribute a boxer can have and McGregor has that. He has the warrior mentality. Fighting Mayweather is completely ridiculous for a first fight, however. It is 100% a money grab from both of them.
I think both will be roided up. It's USADA testing which is a joke. Floyd only uses them because it makes it look like he's "cleaning up the sport" but in reality he's just making sure he can roid and his opponent can't but I think to secure McGregor as an opponent he had to give some concessions on McGregor's testing.
Really? I watched him give up his back and quit against Diaz.
Yeah, he shoulda totally risked brain damage and went out like a warrior! Yeah! Only pussies tap, right?
I repeat, in bold this time, he gave up his back.
He tried to buck and spin, something that you're supposed to do when someone has you in full mount, Diaz countered this by using his leg and took the back. It has nothing to do with warrior mentality.
He showed in the second fight he's a proper fighter, especially round three when Diaz was teeing off.
He gave up his back because he wanted out of the fight. In my opinion, of course.
EDIT an opinion I apparently share with Nate's coach.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/uf...ams-Conor-McGregor-ahead-of-Nate-Diaz-rematch
I love the McGregor doubting. The change in this thread when the sparring footage was released, just more and more revisionism with McGregor.
yeah, I kind of expected Pauli to be talking shite. He was trying too much. He got an ass whooping to be fair...
The only thing that interests me in this fight is that fact that Mayweather has not needed to use his legs for a long time and does not expand that kind of energy. Will be interesting to see if he tries to become more mobile or get smothered in the corner and try to work it from there.
yeah think it was filmed on a pigs arse.
If/when mayweather goes to 50-0, won't he spend the rest of his life getting teased about the mcgregor fight? He has the most perfect boxing record in history, earned off the back of beating a guy who'd never have a pro fight.
Not really. He'll be seen as the guy who beat the best UFC has to offer. It doesn't invalidate his 49 other wins.
I think you'd find a lot of people in the business calling it a fake 50.
His 49-0 is seriously impressive given the names on it. I don't think a lot of people knew about him before he turned into "money" Mayweather but that pre de la Hoya resume has a lot of amazing accomplishments on it.
I suppose history will look back and just see 50-0 though.
Mayweather doesn't do risks. You can be sure he's looked at McGregor and doesn't see him as a threat. Not at all.
Was chatting to Irish boxer Jason Quigley yesterday who is convinced Conor is going to win.
I can't see it but it's starting to affect the size of my Mayweather bet
I can't see it but it's starting to affect the size of my Mayweather bet
Any fighter is dangerous in the first round, doesn't matter who you are when someone comes swinging in they can do damage. Mayweather is just too good and too experienced to fall into these traps, prepare to see a lot of running, ducking, cuddling the first 2-3 rounds. Rounds 4 and onwards, Mayweather will pick him apart.
He will start picking him apart when the fight starts.
Don't worry mate that just sounds like a proud Irishman talking.
He doesn't care. He just cares about what casual (and I use the term loosely) fans think. He's not in the game to be one of the true greats. He just wants mainstream appeal. Don't get me wrong, he's a great fighter, but way back in 2002 he stopped being a risk taker (Castillo fights gave him a scare). Gatti (not in his league), De La Hoya (washed up) and Hatton (not effective as a Welter) were careful matches that helped make him a 1m buy PPV fighter and essentially carried the PPV torch from De La Hoya. All the matchmaking after that was very careful and with every promotional advantage (gloves, size of ring, referee, judges, drug testing). Example - much smaller Marquez, Cotto AFTER being smashed twice, old rusty Mosley, horribly weight drained Canelo, stalled out Pacquaio way too long. The names were there but the wins didn't mean what they could have meant.
He made a choice and he's richer from it I'll say that.
I despise Mayweather as a person. I find Macgregor irritating as a person.
But I really hope the Irishman is put on his arse routinely and ultimately stopped.
But I really hope the Irishman is put on his arse routinely and ultimately stopped.
I still think this one is going only one way, all the hype around Conor the last week was more than likely staged stuff to boost paperviews.
It's Paulie's own fault for stepping into a boxing ring with a boxing clown. If you go to the circus and agree to get up on stage with the clown, then you can hardly complain when you get hit with a custard pie. Yep it's shitty and disrespectful but so is the entire contest fight deal, and it has been since day one. Anyone with any sense of dignity or respect for the sport should have stayed well away. In fairness Malignaggi usually has more sense.
Malignaggi is just wanting that McGregor payday. I'm about 95% sure that "fight" will happen next year.
Looks like Conor is into Systema.
De La Hoya ducked Mayweather for years and had everything stacked in his favor for the fight(gloves, ring size, Mayweather's weight). He fought Cotto after Cotto got his revenge against Margarito, he fought Mosley after he destroyed Margarito(plus Mosley ducked him for a while because of a toothache), Hatton was undefeated when he faced Mayweather. Obviously there was so matchmaking with Floyd but, not anymore than any other A list fighter.
Can they just fight and get this over with already?
De La Hoya hardly "ducked" Mayweather. They were basically never in the same division. De La Hoya was a welterweight when Floyd was at Super Feather. By the time Floyd was at lightweight, De La Hoya was at junior middle and then onto challenge Hopkins at middleweight. The fight was never a serious thought until De La Hoya was no longer an elite fighter, but still the PPV star.
Cotto got revenge on a one eyed Margarito who'd be killed by Mosley and Pacquaio. Sure, Mosley did smash Margarito but Mosley had also been on the serious decline. Looked like crap against a washed up Mayorga, already lost twice to Wright, twice to Forrest, lost to Cotto. He was 38 and not a young 38 and coming off 16 months ring rust. Mosley really had 2-3 good performances from 2002 on wards (Cotto, Collazo, Margarito)
Hatton was a solid win, but lets face it he didn't deserve the win over Collazo and was ineffective above 140. Like I said Floyd is great, but all the wins are carefully matched and nothing outstanding but you add it all together and his resume is impressive. Not one of the best ever, but one of the best of the last 20 years for sure.
This selection is clearly to boost profits/go for a rematch, he will allow the match to finish early/become a farce. The referee and judges will favour McGreggor/Mayweather.
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