Conor McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather | Again?

Without question, Floyd's chances of beating McGregor in the octagon are much greater than Conor's chances of beating him in the squared circle. Prolly double or triple the odds, of the reverse happening at least. Work on Floyd's takedown defense, and he's always got a puncher's chance even when not known for his power.

Doubt it. How long is he going to have to improve his takedown defence? Because people who have been training for years can still be taken down easily by the right opponent. Floyd is hardly gonna learn in a few months, especially when he has to learn to get used to having his legs kicked to pieces first.
 
Without question, Floyd's chances of beating McGregor in the octagon are much greater than Conor's chances of beating him in the squared circle. Prolly double or triple the odds, of the reverse happening at least. Work on Floyd's takedown defense, and he's always got a puncher's chance even when not known for his power.

Hell no. Every fight WILL end up on the ground, at which point Conor would eat him alive. McGregor was a talente amateur boxer and has boxed throughout his entire martial arts career. Has Floyd even had a single lesson in grabbling?
 
Without question, Floyd's chances of beating McGregor in the octagon are much greater than Conor's chances of beating him in the squared circle. Prolly double or triple the odds, of the reverse happening at least. Work on Floyd's takedown defense, and he's always got a puncher's chance even when not known for his power.
No. They've both got basically no chance of beating the other in their favoured discipline. Floyd would get his legs kicked off in the octagon.
 
People shouldn't be comparing this as two different people playing in different sports.

A rugby team will beat Barcelona FC in a rugby match.

The world's best badminton player will beat federer in a badminton match.

Floyd will 95% beat McGregor in a boxing match.

The 5% chance I give McGregor is that unlike any other sports, combat sports are the only contests where a ko can change everything and as unlikely as it is, there is a chance McGregor catches Floyd for a KO.
 
I don't think his chin has been tested much. The last time it was, he got submitted by Nate Diaz.
Shrugged a few bombs from Mendes off... Was also caught by Aldo as he was knocking him out too. Took plenty of shots from Nate, and was wobbled a few times. He has a strong chin.
 
Shrugged a few bombs from Mendes off... Was also caught by Aldo as he was knocking him out too. Took plenty of shots from Nate, and was wobbled a few times. He has a strong chin.

Actually Nate had one clean shot that wobbled Conor in their first fight. After that it was all downhill.
 
I reckon McGregor will gas.

If there's one advantage Conor has its that Floyd is 40, so Conor's lack of 12 round experience will be balanced by the fact that he's more in his athletic prime than Floyd is.

That said, Boxers are far ahead of MMA fighters in terms of boxing technique so Conor has a steep hill to climb if he wants to be competitive.
 
People shouldn't be comparing this as two different people playing in different sports.

A rugby team will beat Barcelona FC in a rugby match.

The world's best badminton player will beat federer in a badminton match.

Floyd will 95% beat McGregor in a boxing match.

The 5% chance I give McGregor is that unlike any other sports, combat sports are the only contests where a ko can change everything and as unlikely as it is, there is a chance McGregor catches Floyd for a KO.

I would say .1% Floyd has been knocked down only once in his 49 professional fights. And that was when one of his gloves touched the canvass.
 
I would say .1% Floyd has been knocked down only once in his 49 professional fights. And that was when one of his gloves touched the canvass.
Nah, he has been knocked down twice, but for some reason the ref didn't class it a knockdown.

Again though, it was just a glove touch.
 
I dont agree at all


But itll be hard to prove

I can't see it. There are pro fighters who train takedown defence every day for years and still end up on their back. He's never been kicked in his life either. He's outweighed by at least 15 pounds, has brittle hands, and to win he would literally have to one-shot-KO someone who's never been knocked out (and has fought guys 20+ pounds heavier than Mayweather).

Doubt it. How long is he going to have to improve his takedown defence? Because people who have been training for years can still be taken down easily by the right opponent. Floyd is hardly gonna learn in a few months, especially when he has to learn to get used to having his legs kicked to pieces first.

Hell no. Every fight WILL end up on the ground, at which point Conor would eat him alive. McGregor was a talente amateur boxer and has boxed throughout his entire martial arts career. Has Floyd even had a single lesson in grabbling?

No. They've both got basically no chance of beating the other in their favoured discipline. Floyd would get his legs kicked off in the octagon.
Should have mentioned in my post that I'd think Conor would be the heavy, odds-on favorite in a MMA fight against Mayweather. My only point was that I like Floyd's chances better against him in the octagon, rather than Conor's in a boxing ring for the reasons mentioned. And of course, if Conor takes him down then the fight is over.

Put it this way, if Conor has a 1% chance of winning this boxing match, then Floyd might have a 2 or 3% chance in the octagon is what I was getting at.
 
Actually Nate had one clean shot that wobbled Conor in their first fight. After that it was all downhill.
Disagree here. I was rooting 100% for Nate in that fight but my memory of it was Conor was gassed and therefore the clean shot took a lot of out of him.

You watch the rematch and see they both landed big shots on each other and Conor stood up to them, his chin hadn't improved but his stamina...or at least management of his stamina improved.
 
People shouldn't be comparing this as two different people playing in different sports.

A rugby team will beat Barcelona FC in a rugby match.

The world's best badminton player will beat federer in a badminton match.

Floyd will 95% beat McGregor in a boxing match.

The 5% chance I give McGregor is that unlike any other sports, combat sports are the only contests where a ko can change everything and as unlikely as it is, there is a chance McGregor catches Floyd for a KO.
Yeah totally agree with this. McGregor can throw a good punch, and a random KO is the only chance he has. Don't think Mayweather could do the same if it was MMA though. 100% Conor would win.
 
I don't think his chin has been tested much. The last time it was, he got submitted by Nate Diaz.

nah that wasn't his chin at all. He moved up 2 weight classes in one jump, punched himself out in 1st round looking for the big KO. He found a 170 lb fighter a harder object to down than the 145 lb fighters he had been ko'ing. Even in 2nd round Conor who you can tell is shattered is still landing the better shots in the stand up. He foolishly tries to for a takedown to get a breather and is done by the better fighter on the ground.
 
nah that wasn't his chin at all. He moved up 2 weight classes in one jump, punched himself out in 1st round looking for the big KO. He found a 170 lb fighter a harder object to down than the 145 lb fighters he had been ko'ing. Even in 2nd round Conor who you can tell is shattered is still landing the better shots in the stand up. He foolishly tries to for a takedown to get a breather and is done by the better fighter on the ground.

He took him down because Nate rocked him earlier in the round. Not with one punch but with random jabs, which when combined with Conor gassing, resulted in the take down attempt.
 
Without question, Floyd's chances of beating McGregor in the octagon are much greater than Conor's chances of beating him in the squared circle. Prolly double or triple the odds, of the reverse happening at least. Work on Floyd's takedown defense, and he's always got a puncher's chance even when not known for his power.
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This is absolutely incorrect.
 
I think Floyd would have a better chance in the Octagon simply because the nature of the sport. There is a lot more upsets in MMA than there is in Boxing.
 
Floyd would probably fare a bit better than most think in an MMA fight with Conor. For one, Conor's overwhelming strength in the Octagon is his boxing and Floyd is obviously one of the world's best boxers - at a level significantly higher than the best UFC boxer. Obviously if Conor took him to the ground or tenderized his legs with leg kicks like he did in the 2nd Nate Diaz fight, Floyd would struggle to make any progress in his boxing and it would be over quickly. But knowing Conor, he would probably want to box Floyd in the Octagon.
 
Part of my thinking was that Conor's usually favored route of attacking (standup) would be mitigated by Floyd's boxing experience. I mean, yes there's kicks but still. Whereas, Conor isn't really known for his jiu-jitsu or his wrestling. Obviously if he decides to take down Mayweather then he could end the fight any way he wants, regardless of his lack of a dominant ground game simply due to Floyd's inexperience. Conor would still be the heavy favorite (and rightly so), but I'd like Floyd's chances in an octagon better than Conor's in the ring. Especially if for whatever reason, Conor decided to keep the fight standing and Floyd worked on his takedown defense and scrambling ability to keep the fight on their feet.
 
Boxing as become a freak show. Mayweather will probably humiliate him , McGregor will get a big pay check and go back to MMA with his reputation intact.
 
I think Floyd would have a great chance in the octagon. It's not hard to learn how to defend or use leg kicks while his fast hands is a form of take down defence as well.
Look at Conor. He's a boxer with weak ground game v killers in ths UFC yet nobody really tries to bring him down. They still stand with him

That's basically Floyd. Floyd v Conor talent wise isn't much different than Conor v Khabib would be.
 
I think Floyd would have a great chance in the octagon. It's not hard to learn how to defend or use leg kicks while his fast hands is a form of take down defence as well.
Look at Conor. He's a boxer with weak ground game v killers in ths UFC yet nobody really tries to bring him down. They still stand with him

That's basically Floyd. Floyd v Conor talent wise isn't much different than Conor v Khabib would be.

Someone should tell that to all the MMA veterans who still get damaged by them. Hell, McGregor himself used them to great effect against a seasoned fighter like Diaz, let alone a rookie to the sport like Mayweather.

As for takedowns, McGregor was repeatedly taken down by Mendes, lost on the ground to Diaz the first time around and had to show strong takedown defence in the second Diaz fight as I remember it, especially against the cage, else he would have been taken down there too. Mayweather would have been quickly beaten on the ground in all three fights. Conor (weak though he is on the ground) still has years and years of training his ground game over Mayweather. If anything he proves that it takes time to build up that skillset, something Mayweather would have to do in a few months.

Remember CM Punk's attenpt at becoming a UFC fighter? It would have taken a lot more than adding Mayweather's boxing ability to his skillset to save him and that was after much more practice than Floyd would have and against a far weaker opponent.
 
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Someone should tell that to all the MMA veterans who still get damaged by them. Hell, McGregor himself used them to great effect against a seasoned fighter like Diaz, let alone a rookie to the sport like Mayweather.

As for takedowns, McGregor was repeatedly taken down by Mendes, lost on the ground to Diaz the first time around and had to show strong takedown defence in the second Diaz fight as I remember it, especially against the cage, else he would have been taken down there too. Mayweather would have been quickly beaten on the ground in all three fights. Conor (weak though he is on the ground) still has years and years of training his ground game over Mayweather. If anything he proves that it takes time to build up that skillset, something Mayweather would have to do in a few months.

Remember CM Punk's attenpt at becoming a UFC fighter? It would have taken a lot more than adding Mayweather's boxing ability to his skillset to save him and that was after much more practice than Floyd would have and against a far weaker opponent.
Conor can't leg kick! He stopped after a round and a half v Nate because he was doing it wrong and nearly broke his foot. Leg kicks aren't a fine art, Aldo has unbelievable power but he's a freak. Nobody else really has that in their arsenal that nullifys opponents. Give Floyd 12 months and he wouldn't be far off the average standard in the UFC.
Conor dove in v Nate when he was destroyed on the feet, that's the only time in the two fights that it went to the ground. Those were standup fights.
Mende proves my point. Conor got taken down at will but Conor didn't combat that with wrestling, his precision striking from the bottom fecked Chad up and stopped Chad doing what he wanted.
I'm not saying Floyd could walk in untrained and compete but Conor himself proves what a fantastic boxer with passable secondary skills can do.
 
Conor can't leg kick! He stopped after a round and a half v Nate because he was doing it wrong and nearly broke his foot. Leg kicks aren't a fine art, Aldo has unbelievable power but he's a freak. Nobody else really has that in their arsenal that nullifys opponents. Give Floyd 12 months and he wouldn't be far off the average standard in the UFC.
Conor dove in v Nate when he was destroyed on the feet, that's the only time in the two fights that it went to the ground. Those were standup fights.
Mende proves my point. Conor got taken down at will but Conor didn't combat that with wrestling, his precision striking from the bottom fecked Chad up and stopped Chad doing what he wanted.
I'm not saying Floyd could walk in untrained and compete but Conor himself proves what a fantastic boxer with passable secondary skills can do.


Hmmm, that's not true really. Cerrone, Dos Anjos, Barboza all have pretty brutal leg kicks and that's without even thinking. There's plenty of UFC fighters who are excellent at it and are that good it could make an opponet struggle hugely.

Mendes is an elite level wrestler, why would Conor try and wrestle him when he's better on his feet than on the ground?

Conor has far better level than "passable skills" in other areas of MMA, he's a much higher level than people are giving him credit for. He's not as good a wrestler as Mendes no but he's way way way better than Mayweather is and ever will be. I find it odd people are assuming he would stand and box with Mayweather in the Octagon cos he has done it in the past, he's never fought a professional unbeaten boxer in the UFC. I'd guess he would have a different gameplan if he did, it defies logic that he wouldn't.
 
This fight makes me every bit as angry as Trump in the White House does.

Trump is more qualified to run American than Conor is to face Mayweather. The gap is that big.
 
:lol: What the hell is this madness, Floyd would have 0% chance in the octagon. As it stands McGregor has about 1% chance of winning this boxing match. But Mayweather in the octagon would be like that CM Punk fight, Its over in the first round.
 
Hmmm, that's not true really. Cerrone, Dos Anjos, Barboza all have pretty brutal leg kicks and that's without even thinking. There's plenty of UFC fighters who are excellent at it and are that good it could make an opponet struggle hugely.

Mendes is an elite level wrestler, why would Conor try and wrestle him when he's better on his feet than on the ground?

Conor has far better level than "passable skills" in other areas of MMA, he's a much higher level than people are giving him credit for. He's not as good a wrestler as Mendes no but he's way way way better than Mayweather is and ever will be. I find it odd people are assuming he would stand and box with Mayweather in the Octagon cos he has done it in the past, he's never fought a professional unbeaten boxer in the UFC. I'd guess he would have a different gameplan if he did, it defies logic that he wouldn't.

Not to mention that his fight with Max Holloway involved long stretches on the ground, where he was fairly dominant. Despite rupturing his ACL!

And Holloway's record since that fight makes this achievement look even more impressive with hindsight. Could well end up as McGregor's most impressive scalp of all.
 
Not to mention that his fight with Max Holloway involved long stretches on the ground, where he was fairly dominant. Despite rupturing his ACL!

And Holloway's record since that fight makes this achievement look even more impressive with hindsight. Could well end up as McGregor's most impressive scalp of all.

Yeah I always find the dismissal of him quite odd to be honest. I get people don't like him as a person and that (I do personally but each to their own) but it seems people constantly want to talk down his talent. To say he has "passable secondary skills" is just an odd comment for me.
 
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Yeah I always find the dismissal of him quite odd to be honest. I get people don't like him as a person and that (I do personally but each to their own) but it seems people constantly want to talk down his talent. To say he has "passable secondary skills" is just an odd comment for me.

I think it's mainly down to how rarely he's been tested. If you frequently win with ease then people assume winning is easy.
 
He took him down because Nate rocked him earlier in the round. Not with one punch but with random jabs, which when combined with Conor gassing, resulted in the take down attempt.

Conor was very frank in his interview backstage straight after the fight with Ariel Helwani. He said the punches he was hitting Diaz with would have knocked out guys in his own weight class. The punches he did mention that hurt him were Diaz's body shots. Being gassed from trying too hard in 1st round to score a knockout, plus getting caught with body shots in 2nd, he was done. He was very honest post fight in what he did wrong in that fight as was his trainer. Conor has a solid chin, he lost to Diaz first fight because he underestimated Diaz's chin imo.