I realise that yes. It is just very frustrating the amount of publicity and discussion it is generating, when there is talented boxers who work so hard their entire career and never get a chance like this. Boxing dies if Mayweather loses.
Conor McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather | Again?
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I realise that yes. It is just very frustrating the amount of publicity and discussion it is generating, when there is talented boxers who work so hard their entire career and never get a chance like this. Boxing dies if Mayweather loses.
Yeah I agree with all this. I like watching the guy fight to be honest. I think it may be one people will appreciate when he's done for good.
I consider myself a true boxing fan, I've watched it pretty much all my life and it's the sport I watch most behind football. I don't think you can generalise a whole group of people as having 1 particular emotion towards a fight. It's a one off fight and I'm looking forward to it, I know plenty of other big boxing fans who are to. Yeah it's not boxer vs. boxer but sometimes it's interesting to see something different.
I'm all for the earning the right to fight Floyd stuff but earn your own legacy without using his name. It got boring as feck when Amir Khan was constantly calling him out. Floyd is basically semi retired and I'd struggle to see him fighting again after this fight (if he does I reckon it would be some comeback in 3 or 4 years time fighting a title holder) the holding out for a Floyd fight should of gone with the Manny fight really, boxers should of tried making their own name instead of relying on his. He owes boxing and other boxers absolutely nothing to be honest, he's fought for 20+ years in total and if he wants a fight like this then let him. It's his promotion, he's not making anyone buy it, he's not asking to be idolised or whatever. It's all his choice. Yeah it's not nice for the amateurs but then surely any amateur boxer can use the rest of his career as motivation? He's beaten the best, he's been the best and is one of the best ever.
His hard work dedication stuff is true, he's worked hard and paid his dues to boxing and then some. His hard work and dedication got him to be the biggest name in boxing, start his own promotion and be in the 3 biggest fights of all time. Again that's motivation for people regardless of this fight.
I don't get your last point. Again I'm a boxing fan (albeit I might not pass the RedCafe test it seems) but am I not allowed to look forward to this and the 2 other fights? Do I have to pick 1? I assume when a load of films come out at the cinema you are only interested in 1 and don't pay attention to anything else.
Yeah exactly, the cost is hardly ridiculous for it, again if it was like 100 quid per person yeah I'd get hte outrage, split the cost between 2 or 3 mates and it's not that much money.
The boxing is dead/dying stuff has been thrown around for years and not once come true. Mayweather loses, a month later GGG vs. Canelo fight in what could be a classic and if so it will be that spoken about.
I have no idea how on earth you've come to the conclusions you've made. Boxing is levels above MMA in terms of fitness and output. You get no breathers whatsoever in a boxing ring and you're getting hit or delivering hits constantly. The punch output in a fierce boxing contest will never be seen in an octagon.
Body shots are far more reductive than wrestling. 'Taking somebody's legs away' in a boxing ring is a brutal process, which even fellow boxers with months of conditioning don't recover from inbetween rounds. Carrying someone else's body weight or grappling for an extended period of time is tiring, of course, getting punched repeatedly in the stomach and liver is something else entirely.
Someone like GSP was at a level of fitness comparable with a boxer, and it was one of the reasons he could make mincemeat out of opponents before finishing them off. Cain Velesaquez was also the type of MMA fighter with the ferocity and consistency of output more akin to boxing than MMA.
Fitness in MMA as a whole is still in its infancy and it shows with how many of the fighters are gassed after relatively short periods of activity compared to the ones who are not. Mighty Mouse, Joanna Champion and the like have the fitness that should be uniform at the top level, but until all fighters have the kind of training camps you get in boxing, that's not going to be remotely possible.
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Conor and his family must've toasted the town the day this deal got confirmed. As long as he comes out of the bout with his faculties intact, he'll have earned more from this one contest than he ever would from an entire career in MMA twice, maybe even three times over.
There should be a clause in the bout that says money is refunded and Conor does not get his purse if he is DQ'd via illegal strikes. If Floyd takes this seriously, Conor will be at his wit's end trying to hold back on a kick, knee, elbow or something else he shouldn't be doing in pure boxing.
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Its gonna be some great promotion for it. And its gonna make a shit load of money for both guys.
And most people here are gonna watch it (unless they have other plans already).
Its gonna be some great promotion for it. And its gonna make a shit load of money for both guys.
And most people here are gonna watch it (unless they have other plans already).
I don't get all the moaning.
I expect McGregor to retire after this. I would, if I were him.
I expect McGregor to retire after this. I would, if I were him.
UFC want him on their end of year event. He's still got fights on his contact hasn't he? Though I get your implied point; nothing left to prove with no fight in the UFC coming close to getting half of his salary from this contest alone.
I'm not at all familiar with the contractual situation and how big of a factor it is, to be fair. But yeah, he could only lose if he continues to fight, from now on. He'll have enough money and enough fame to continue to make money off, without the need to take potentially debilitating shots to the head. I think being a father now and Carvalho's death have made him realize it's not worth it.
Legacy wise.....he has a lot left to prove, but he does have a legacy....just not one where I'd put him anywhere near GOAT list. His whole legacy is more or less built on the Aldo knockout really at the moment, I mean Nate Diaz isn't exactly massive elite either, and the rest....well yeah. But everything's he's done since the Aldo KO has been about $$$$$ fast and quick, Dana's bowed to him, and now this. Yeah, he's done with the UFC I'd guess, he knows his own limits, but at least this way can sell himself to casuals as better than he is.
Already been posted but have a look at this (same training day I think):
There's nothing competitive about either session because Van Heerden is the only one doing the damage. He's the only one constantly moving and jabbing. Which is to be expected. The one you replied to is still a sparring session, albeit a light one, and it does show how McGregor's stance isn't suited to boxing. It's centred around leg kicks and defending takedowns (as I discussed earlier on in this thread). It also shows how he hasn't adapted, but it's a year ago and I'd like to think that he's unequivocally improved because his main focus is on boxing.
Sorry to nitpick, but it's "biased". This is a pet peeve of mine.
It's going to break every boxing record, people need to get over that. Just accept it as a crazy spectacle and embrace it. Yeah, yeah, I'm bias because I'd have sex with McGregor but c'mon, EMBRACE IT!
Surely it won't do more PPV buys than Floyd-Manny. I expect something in the 3m ballpark.
Can for the love of GOD GGG replace Conor, that would be epic
Would be really funny if when Mcgregor get's frustrated he'd go with his instincts, take Mayweather to the ground and kick the shit out of him. That's the only way I can see this becoming entertaining. Otherwise an easy tactical win for Floyd.
Can't stand McGregor or his fanboys to be honest.
He's only in it for the money and he doesn't even hide that fact. His fans defending him by saying crap like "Oh but he's gonna make 100m off it so do you really think he cares if he loses?" are the same morons that criticise footballers for doing the same thing.
He's a muppet who never defends his titles. I hope Mayweather knocks him out and embarrasses him but they're both in on it together like a fixed wrestling match. I expect Mayweather to win on points so both their reputations get saved and they both get to celebrate their hundreds of millions in the back.
Joke.
He's only in it for the money and he doesn't even hide that fact. His fans defending him by saying crap like "Oh but he's gonna make 100m off it so do you really think he cares if he loses?" are the same morons that criticise footballers for doing the same thing.
He's a muppet who never defends his titles. I hope Mayweather knocks him out and embarrasses him but they're both in on it together like a fixed wrestling match. I expect Mayweather to win on points so both their reputations get saved and they both get to celebrate their hundreds of millions in the back.
Joke.
Fighting is quite a bit different to being a footballer though. If you're not in it for the money then you probably shouldn't be a prizefighter.
Everyone does it for the money. But if a footballer bragged about it like McGregor does, he would get slaughtered. What's the difference?
It's clear McGregor likes to fight but at the same time only a moron would do it if the money wasn't involved. It such a high risk business to be in and McGregor has the right mentality. Go in, fight for the big money and then retire.
For all you mma fans out there...wait for this.... On his BBB show,Brendan Schaub has said Conor has quicker hands and has more power than Canelo.
Its on Youtube, he's overruling and giving technique tutorials to an Olympic boxing bronze winner and undefeated pro.
Conor can win by out-awkwarding Floyd. Its gold.
Its on Youtube, he's overruling and giving technique tutorials to an Olympic boxing bronze winner and undefeated pro.
Conor can win by out-awkwarding Floyd. Its gold.
There's an inherent difference between fighting and football in terms of both health risk and the very nature of the sports. Expecting footballers to have a certain love for for football is reasonable, expecting prizefighters to have a love of fighting isn't.
Fighting is an art and Plenty of fighters have a genuine passion and love for the sport.
GSP, Anderson Silva, Randy Couture, the Gracies etc. Need I go on? McGregor never defends his titles and only gets title shots because of his mouth. Why did he get the Diaz rematch instead of defending the Featherweight Title? Cause UFC couldn't have their cash whore tap like a bitch and ruin all their future lineups.
Haha, you go on about McGregor "fanboys" and yet what your doing is no different. "Tap like a bitch". Yeah. He should totally risk brain damage and not tap, that'll give him some internet brownie points from bitter people like yourself.
Let's not overglamourise it: MMA fighters and boxers get into a cage and inflict serious physical damage on others while having it inflicted on themselves. Anyone who genuinely enjoys the process of being physically assaulted like that either has serious personality issues and/or is a moron.
Fighters can enjoy their particular form of combat or just competing against others, in which case there are many safer, amateur avenues for them to go down. If you become a professional fighter though then your priority should entirely be the living you make from it, otherwise you're an idiot. There's too much risk involved not to focus on career side of it first and foremost. The competition and glory associated with it should be a distance second if you have any sort of rational perspective on what you're putting yourself through.
I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. How can you suggest McGregor doesn't have a passion for it? He has openly said on many occasions all he thinks about is fighting and nothing else. Also. of course he deserves his title shot. He went undefeated upto the point where he faced Aldo and then destroyed him in 13 seconds. It's not like Mendes, Holloway, Edgar etc have not been given their chances too.
After tapping to Diaz he instantly wanted a rematch with conditions all the same. This was against a much bigger guy. When he fought Alvarez he also looked many levels above in terms of skill. Dana White himself has said McGregor will fight anybody, anytime and anywhere.[/QUOTE]
How so? McGregor should be defending his titles. End of story.
Clueless
You can't call his passion and love for fighting into question. It was as I said clueless
So if you were in his position, where every fight could mean permanent damage to his body and/or brain, you'd rather defend your belt for a few million instead of chasing the big bucks in an almost exhibition-like bout against Mayweather? If so, that would be very naive. Mayweather himself has said that coming out of boxing unharmed is one of his biggest victories in life. For boxers, or any professional fighter for that matter, it's get paid and get out before you're hurt.
If true, that's surely the most stupid thing ever said. Ever.
If McGregor defended at FW, he'd be still called a midget beater, only 1 fighter there that would even be competitive with Conor and thats Holloway. The rest are all early ko's. He should probably fight Ferguson at LW because Khabib for all his bullshit is a weight cheat (constantly missing it and getting injured trying to make weight) and him fighting at LW is the equivalent of Conor at 145.
I find the Conor should defend thing funny, Aldo went a full year without defending at 145 and no one cried. In fact he did it twice 2012-13 and before the Conor fight. Conor shouldn't have got the 155 title fight but he did and now for better or worse he has it. He shouldn't be called on not defending it until next February. Cody Gardbrant won the BW title a month later has zero defences and nothing about it.
Also Mayweather is just as big a dick about the money. Personally I hope both of them get knocked out.
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Conor McGregor Vs Floyd Mayweather
This time, it's for the money.
This time, it's for the money.
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Conor is a pretty big guy. I was listening to the MMA Hour interview with Owen Roddy and he said Conor is currently around 175lbs. He will definitely have a big size advantage vs Mayweather.
Won't that seriously affect his cardio unless he's really gotten used to it already? He has gassed before and it's entirely possible he will again, especially in boxing and not MMA.
Yea but he will cut weight before the fight. He will weigh in at 154lbs and probably fight around 165lbs after rehydration I would imagine. I have done some boxing in the past and it is definitely cardio intensive but I would imagine MMA is more intense. Also the rounds are shorter than an MMA fight so more time to recover. I think if McGregor has ANY chance of winning it would only be by knockout within the first 6 rounds.
I also feel the notion of McGregor having poor cardio has only really been seen when he was fighting way above his natural fighting weight vs Diaz where he was probably around 175lbs at the time of the fight. That extra size on a 5'9 frame is a lot of extra load to carry which would have an impact. We will have to wait and see of course
2 inch reach advantage too
He really needs to utilize his extra size in the clinch. Well that's assuming he can even get close to Floyd
Yea tiring out a 40 year old Floyd by grappling and then fighting at a distance would be a good game plan to use for sure. I think its such an interesting style match up because you have a larger, stronger, heavy punching, southpaw knockout artist known for his timing and precision vs one of the best technical and defensive boxers of all time who can't deliver heavy punches due to issues with his hands.
Not saying Conor can or will win but you'd have to imagine he should be able to make the fight last a decent few rounds to make it worth watching
Fun video some fan made...
Can't wait for the first press conference.
That clip where it looks like they're spying on him he still clearly has the pace.
I don't really buy the rustiness or age thing. He's had long breaks in the past and the age has been used against him in plenty of fights and never meant a thing.
feck it. For all the complaining, this will be entertaining as feck.
The build up will be a shit show. The fight should be an hilarious mis-match where Conor McGregor looks so out of his depth that it's you'd almost feel sorry for him. Surely after all his talk, everyone would find that funny. Then there's the fraction of a percent chance that he lands a few punches and rattles Mayweather. How insane would that be? If he had him on the ropes for any length of time.
Yeah, it's a joke and if you want to be a dickhead about things, you can say you're not watching it because it's an embarrassment to both sports. But in reality, this whole saga will be nothing, if not entertaining.
The only scenario that would render this boring is if the whole thing is arranged and they pretty much shadow box for 12 rounds and Mayweather wins on points to set up anther lucrative rematch.
The build up will be a shit show. The fight should be an hilarious mis-match where Conor McGregor looks so out of his depth that it's you'd almost feel sorry for him. Surely after all his talk, everyone would find that funny. Then there's the fraction of a percent chance that he lands a few punches and rattles Mayweather. How insane would that be? If he had him on the ropes for any length of time.
Yeah, it's a joke and if you want to be a dickhead about things, you can say you're not watching it because it's an embarrassment to both sports. But in reality, this whole saga will be nothing, if not entertaining.
The only scenario that would render this boring is if the whole thing is arranged and they pretty much shadow box for 12 rounds and Mayweather wins on points to set up anther lucrative rematch.