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I will, but haven't.
Then you're already water cooled and pretty much good to go for overclock.
There are lots of temperature monitoring programs. I like Realtemp. If you decide to overclock at any point, download it and keep an eye on the core temperature. As a rule, anything under 80°c is fine.
At current stock speeds, you won't be anywhere near that when gaming. With a moderate OC, you still shouldn't really get close to that temp.
It's up to you. If the machine is performing well in games at the settings you desire, then an overclock isn't necessary, but as time goes by, if you find a game too hardware demanding and it starts to stutter or lag at times, some more horsepower from the processor might just help. The graphics card can be overclocked too, again, there's a ton of guides out there.
I googled overclocking the standard i7 8700 (not the K) and apparently it can be done, to an extent. I've seen people claiming they've upped it from 3.2 to 4.2, or so. It would be nice to do it but I would be concerned about f*cking things up. Does overclocking the CPU have any impact on the PSU?
You can overclock graphics cards, too? Is that kind of what manufacturers do with the ti versions of cards?
You can overclock graphics cards, too? Is that kind of what manufacturers do with the ti versions of cards?
I think your cpu boosts to 4ghz. If you overclock you are looking to take it to 4.5 and above.
And yeah you can overclock graphics cards too.
Mortens latest build got 3rd place on open case mods on dream hack. Don't have other pictures, yet at least.
Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a new desktop PC. I generally don't use heavy programs, other than music production software (FL Studio).
However, due to my budget I have to decide between a PC with Intel i7 + 8gb RAM, or on the other hand Intel i5 (8400) + 16 GB RAM.
Intel i7 + 16GB RAM is simply a bit too expensive for me. (I've looked at dozens of desktop PC's).
What do you recommend?
However, due to my budget I have to decide between a PC with Intel i7 + 8gb RAM, or on the other hand Intel i5 (8400) + 16 GB RAM.
Intel i7 + 16GB RAM is simply a bit too expensive for me. (I've looked at dozens of desktop PC's).
What do you recommend?
CREDIT.
Save a month or two extra so you get what you really want.
Also, you should mention which i7 processor it is.
You should also build one as it's cheaper.
I7-8700.Save a month or two extra so you get what you really want.
Also, you should mention which i7 processor it is.
Here are some cpu data comparing the two.
You should either go for the i7 straight away and upgrade your ram later on, or just save up for the time it takes to upgrade your ram before making the purchase.
I'd make the choice based on if i had something usable right away and if there would be longer than a month or two to wait to get the upgrade.
fecking RAM and its cost.
Though, does one really need 16GB of it?
Though, does one really need 16GB of it?
It's not a ridiculous amount of RAM to have in 2018. I've had that much in my system for a few years, it's a pretty standard amount for a home build.
I’ve got a pretty good i7k build with 16gb RAM and have a program running that is always monitoring resources and it’s generally around 7-9GB in use when playing a game or whatever. The difference between having that extra 8GB or using virtual memory is huge. Virtual memory is far slower as it has to use the shared front side bus and also has to manage what is loaded into main memory at any one time so processes are constantly being swapped in and out which is much much slower.
It's not essential but no harm in it. You could spread the cost by upgrading later and picking it up when there are offers on.
My PC is ancient and in much need of an upgrade. However, so much needs upgrading it's going to be a lot less faff and only marginally more expensive to buy a new one. Not up for building one myself because I can't be fecked with all that, but @The Bloody-Nine has directed me to https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ and I'm also aware of https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ and https://www.novatech.co.uk/ which seem to be similar in that they don't strictly do pre-builts, but configurable builds.
However, I haven't a clue what parts are good and what's not anymore, such is the way of things when you don't look at PC specs for the best part of a decade.
Looking for a gaming PC. Budget is £500-£600 top end. Any help greatly appreciated.
However, I haven't a clue what parts are good and what's not anymore, such is the way of things when you don't look at PC specs for the best part of a decade.
Looking for a gaming PC. Budget is £500-£600 top end. Any help greatly appreciated.
I make your budget to top out around $750. Have a read of this.
Components listed in the link. See what people in here reckon. @17 Van der Gouw @Ødegaard @Bogga etc
https://www.xtremegaminerd.com/build-a-750-assassin-gaming-pc/
Components listed in the link. See what people in here reckon. @17 Van der Gouw @Ødegaard @Bogga etc
https://www.xtremegaminerd.com/build-a-750-assassin-gaming-pc/
Is there any specific build for small size/weight without compromising power to play modern games?
Sure. But there are things to consider. For example, you may be limiting your options if you want to upgrade in future.
Here's an extreme example. Start at 30 seconds in.
Just bought myself a new configuration. Still budget I believe, but it'll probably blew my mind considering what I used to have.
AMD Athlon x4 740 --> AMD Ryzen 5 1600
ASRock FM2A75MDGS --> MSI B450-A Pro
4 GB DDR 3 1333 --> 8 GB DDR G.Skill 2666
HDD + HDD --> SSD + HDD
Brilliant Power shitPSU --> SilentiumPC Supremo M2 Gold 550W 80+ Gold
some hot, completely closed off case with no coolers --> SilentiumPC RG4T, tempered glass, 3 x dust filters, 3 x 120mm coolers
Zotac GTX 750 Ti --> Zotac GTX 750 Ti (that will carry on to new config, it's enough for me I think...though, that was with R3 1200 in mind, maybe I'll need something else for R5 1600)
Now just waiting for it to be delivered (Friday?).
AMD Athlon x4 740 --> AMD Ryzen 5 1600
ASRock FM2A75MDGS --> MSI B450-A Pro
4 GB DDR 3 1333 --> 8 GB DDR G.Skill 2666
HDD + HDD --> SSD + HDD
Brilliant Power shitPSU --> SilentiumPC Supremo M2 Gold 550W 80+ Gold
some hot, completely closed off case with no coolers --> SilentiumPC RG4T, tempered glass, 3 x dust filters, 3 x 120mm coolers
Zotac GTX 750 Ti --> Zotac GTX 750 Ti (that will carry on to new config, it's enough for me I think...though, that was with R3 1200 in mind, maybe I'll need something else for R5 1600)
Now just waiting for it to be delivered (Friday?).
that is huge cpu upgrade . what are you planning to play ? and what monitor do you have ?
Mostly some isometric RPGs like Divinity: Original Sin, Pillars of Eternity, Expeditions: Vikings, Starcraft II (not RPG but isometric too), etc. I would like to try Witcher 3 as well, and I think it'll play nicely.
Not that big of a gamer though (probably will become with this better hardware), I want my general windows experience to be better. Chrome suffers now for instance, as I like to open gazillion tabs in it.
Monitor is some Philips LED 243 V. 1920 x 1080 resolution. Not sure how good or bad it is.
Not that big of a gamer though (probably will become with this better hardware), I want my general windows experience to be better. Chrome suffers now for instance, as I like to open gazillion tabs in it.
Monitor is some Philips LED 243 V. 1920 x 1080 resolution. Not sure how good or bad it is.
Am looking to upgrade from my GTX 960, but kind of blown away by how expensive the 20 series chips are.
Hoping it might get a 1070 ti down under $350 but then worried about buying something 3 years old.
GpU market is kind of bonkers.
Hoping it might get a 1070 ti down under $350 but then worried about buying something 3 years old.
GpU market is kind of bonkers.
You should have checked it out 6 months ago.
Early rumours are that the 20 series won't have a massive performance boost over the 10 series.
GPU prices have come down a lot (still not where they should be), but i would wait until the 20 series has been benchmarked (released on the 20th).
I'm looking around for a GPU myself and you can get used 1070's between 200-250 if you look around.
Personally i wouldn't get the 1070ti as the price difference from the 1080 isn't that big, so you might as well spend the little extra for the 1080.
Thanks good point re 1080. There was a ridiculous deal on for 1 day on the nvidia conference - should have moved then.
Am v curious how the 20xx benchmark. Nvidia were pretty vague about, if results were amazing you figure that wouldn't be the case.
Thanks good point re 1080. There was a ridiculous deal on for 1 day on the nvidia conference - should have moved then.
Am v curious how the 20xx benchmark. Nvidia were pretty vague about, if results were amazing you figure that wouldn't be the case.
Yes. That's why most are suspect about it, don't think the gains will be that significant.
Running both local server and client of "Ark Survival" for standalone play pushes RAM usage over >8GB RAM, at least it did in early access.
Good upgrade, only the 750Ti will barely play The Witcher 3, even at the very lowest settings.
I've seen videos of it playing just nicely on medium/high settings with Ryzen 3 1200. Even on ultra it's playable. Guess it was nicely optimized game.
But yeah, I do realize that I'll be in need of a better card soon*. Change from R3 1200 to R5 1600 was sudden, and happened in the actual store, so didn't bother looking for cards before, thought R3 1200 and GTX 750 Ti would be just fine.
*a year or so
Was all excited for the new cards, having skipped the 1080ti in anticipation of them. Seems like a waste of time now as they're not being well received and I'll probably end up getting something from the 10 series anyway. Might try for a reduced price Titan or a FTW ti if the opportunity arises.
Seems like PC gaming has hit a plateau now though, which has meant there's little need to get these cards at the premium rate like there used to be.
Seems like PC gaming has hit a plateau now though, which has meant there's little need to get these cards at the premium rate like there used to be.
I think the next level is 4k, the monitors have become more affordable now, what's missing are the graphics cards that are able to play at that resolution (with everything maxed out) .
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Yeah, that's because of the console cap though, with games being made for them and ported to PC or limited for PC and ported across. That's not changing anytime soon (next limiter in line with ps5 and whatever Microsoft equivalent) so outside of rendering and higher frame rate at 4k, these cards just can't justify themselves.
Not sure about that, as PC games run fine at 1440P and until recently all console games were running at 1080P, so a jump in resolution shouldn't effect PC gaming so much, imo the hardware just isn't good enough right now. We'll just have to wait and see how the new 20 series does at 4k resolution.
It's a minimal bang for buck compared to when there used to be a clear gulf between top end PC graphics and framerate and that of the newest consoles. I dunno, i think you need to be using these cards for more than generic gaming to justify the outlay these days. 4k Video rendering, VR, 3d modelling and so forth.
I went to 4k 1,5 years ago. Best upgrade in a long time, coming from 1680x1050. My card (R9 Nano) is of course struggling with stuff like The Witcher 3, but I'm not generally playing the latest AAA-Title, so I'm fine with how things run.
Yeah i'm not saying it isn't playable, but for the newer, graphically intense games you have to turn down the settings to get a decent frame rate, and that's even with a 1080ti.