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[oneniltothearsenal]

That system is beautiful Bogga.

I used to be into overclocking for a while. Back over 10 years ago I build a machine with Intel's first batch of quad core chips that I overclocked the hell out of with the legendary Asus P5B deluxe and a custom water cooling loop I built. That build took soo much time. Things are so much easier these days than they used to be.

Oh and that i7-920 was another great overclocking chip I had

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

Spoiler: By Morten Hansen

Can upload more once my desktop arrives if anyone is interested.
Oh, and I got permission from him to mention his name and share the pictures.

Wow now that is unique. Probably the coolest custom build i have ever seen. I absolutely love the old school case, analog switches and styling.
I always wanted to try something like that but never had the patience or handiwork skills to want to risk ruining an expensive build.
Do you have one of those steampunk modded Model M keyboards too? Those would fit perfectly with this

 

[Ødegaard]

Wow now that is unique. Probably the coolest custom build i have ever seen. I absolutely love the old school case, analog switches and styling.
I always wanted to try something like that but never had the patience or handiwork skills to want to risk ruining an expensive build.
Do you have one of those steampunk modded Model M keyboards too? Those would fit perfectly with this

It's not mine, it's a friend's build. I'm not sure if he did more stuff for it or if he uses it still. I'll ask him next time we talk.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

@Flying_Heckfish I considered that exact pairing, with 1080ti and Sandy Bridge but then decided to sell my 2600k setup and move over to Ryzen. Your chip is still holding its own quite nicely.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Seems like the place to ask. I have an i7-8700 @ 3.20Hz with a GTX 1080. Would I be able to run a 1080ti with that?

EDIT oh, and overclocking. Good idea? Possible? It's clear that I have no idea what I'm talking about?

 

[2mufc0]

Seems like the place to ask. I have an i7-8700 @ 3.20Hz with a GTX 1080. Would I be able to run a 1080ti with that?

EDIT oh, and overclocking. Good idea? Possible? It's clear that I have no idea what I'm talking about?

Yes, but it would be pointless as your ti will be throttled to the speed of the standard 1080.
Edit: I'm wrong about the above, it won't work at all as nvidia require identical gpus to SLI. I think Amd allow mixing.
Yes you can overclock too.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Why would said throttling occur? And would overclocking alleviate this throttling?

 

[Ødegaard]

Seems like the place to ask. I have an i7-8700 @ 3.20Hz with a GTX 1080. Would I be able to run a 1080ti with that?

EDIT oh, and overclocking. Good idea? Possible? It's clear that I have no idea what I'm talking about?

No. You have to run the same cards in sli to have them working. Overclocking is fine if your motherboard is good for it (changing voltage is where the biggest risk of ruining your hardware is).

Both answers should be taken with a pinch of salt as I haven't used SLI myself (only read a bit) & I tend to not overclock as long as the original power is satisfying, meaning I've only overclocked a laptop once and as such I am not really knowledgeable or experienced with it.

 

[2mufc0]

Why would said throttling occur? And would overclocking alleviate this throttling?

Updated my post. Odegaard is right you can't mix with nvidia

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Oh shit, sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant can I replace the 1080 with a 1080ti without any problems. Not run them together.

 

[2mufc0]

Oh shit, sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant can I replace the 1080 with a 1080ti without any problems. Not run them together.

Of course. Would reinstall drivers though.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Of course. Would reinstall drivers though.

Sweet, thanks. Just wasn't sure if my CPU was up to it. I bought it under advisement but in retrospect, the person may have intended that I get the 8700k.

I'm a feckless noob.

 

[2mufc0]

Sweet, thanks. Just wasn't sure if my CPU was up to it. I bought it under advisement but in retrospect, the person may have intended that I get the 8700k.

I'm a feckless noob.

You have an 8th gen i7 it's good enough to handle most things you will throw at it.

 

[2mufc0]

Sweet, thanks. Just wasn't sure if my CPU was up to it. I bought it under advisement but in retrospect, the person may have intended that I get the 8700k.

I'm a feckless noob.

Also 8700k is for over clocking, so if you're not into that sort of stuff you are fine with the one you have.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

That is very reassuring to know, thanks again.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Sorry for yet another post, but I read that the new Nvidia cards are likely to be coming out sometime in the near future. Therefore, going for a 1080ti at this juncture is probably not a great idea, if what you already own is perfectly capable? And I have no complaints with my current 1080.

Basically, better to hold off? If for no other reason than a new generation of cards will drop the price of the current ones considerably.

 

[Ødegaard]

Sorry for yet another post, but I read that the new Nvidia cards are likely to be coming out sometime in the near future. Therefore, going for a 1080ti at this juncture is probably not a great idea, if what you already own is perfectly capable? And I have no complaints with my current 1080.

Basically, better to hold off? If for no other reason than a new generation of cards will drop the price of the current ones considerably.

What you have is already powerful enough to run most of the things you want to, I suspect.
Meaning upgrades is more because of a want than a need. You can probably skip 2-3 generations of top models if you want (unless there is a big change in graphical power and use of that power) and save yourself the money.

That said, upgrading to always experiencing "the best possible" is something a lot of PC people do, and I won't be judging. My main point being bolded.

 

[2mufc0]

Sorry for yet another post, but I read that the new Nvidia cards are likely to be coming out sometime in the near future. Therefore, going for a 1080ti at this juncture is probably not a great idea, if what you already own is perfectly capable? And I have no complaints with my current 1080.

Basically, better to hold off? If for no other reason than a new generation of cards will drop the price of the current ones considerably.

Depends on what resolution you play at. The 1080 is very powerful and still has years of life in it esp if you play at 1080p.

Personally if I was in your shoes I wouldn't do it, as there is no reason for your needs.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Well, I already have a 28 inch 4K monitor. Now that said, Odegaard is absolutely correct in that I just want better, better, BETTER.

I absolutely don't need to upgrade, but I'd still like to. I think part of it is that I also have a PS4 Pro with a 55" 4K HDR TV, and shit like the new God of War looks absolutely stunning on it. Basically, I want to beat that on my PC. Now, I realise that the size of the TV and obviously the HDR is a big factor in that, but still....I'd like to beat the hell out of it.

 

[Ødegaard]

Well, I already have a 28 inch 4K monitor. Now that said, Odegaard is absolutely correct in that I just want better, better, BETTER.

I absolutely don't need to upgrade, but I'd still like to. I think part of it is that I also have a PS4 Pro with a 55" 4K HDR TV, and shit like the new God of War looks absolutely stunning on it. Basically, I want to beat that on my PC. Now, I realise that the size of the TV and obviously the HDR is a big factor in that, but still....I'd like to beat the hell out of it.

Oh, if you're running on a 4k then I'd probably spend the time saving up for the next-gen card. Since the difference between 1080 and 1080 ti is around 20% the next gen is likely to provide a even bigger performance boost. And if the rumors are true then it's not too far away.

Source for performance data between 1080 & 1080 ti

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Oh, if you're running on a 4k then I'd probably spend the time saving up for the next-gen card. Since the difference between 1080 and 1080 ti is around 20% the next gen is likely to provide a even bigger performance boost. And if the rumors are true then it's not too far away.

Source for performance data between 1080 & 1080 ti

That's what I'm thinking. I wonder when we'll get some news on the new range.

 

[2mufc0]

Well, I already have a 28 inch 4K monitor. Now that said, Odegaard is absolutely correct in that I just want better, better, BETTER.

I absolutely don't need to upgrade, but I'd still like to. I think part of it is that I also have a PS4 Pro with a 55" 4K HDR TV, and shit like the new God of War looks absolutely stunning on it. Basically, I want to beat that on my PC. Now, I realise that the size of the TV and obviously the HDR is a big factor in that, but still....I'd like to beat the hell out of it.

In that case I would wait for the next gen, should be released soon.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Thanks, both of you, much appreciated.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

@The Bloody-Nine - The 'k' in 8700k indicates the processor is unlocked, therefore very easy to overclock. Leaving it an stock speeds is a crime There are plenty of guides on how to overclock on YouTube, it's really not so difficult with a little studying.

You'll get much more horsepower out of your 1080 with a moderate overclock of say 4 or 4.2GHZ.

 

[The Don]

Lot of talk about dedicated monitors for gaming. I have my pc plugged into my 4k tv and I play all my games on 3840x2160p on ultra and HDR (if available) and I only have an i56600k/gtx1070. Is there a reason I shouldn't be doing this?

 

[Igor Drefljak]

Lot of talk about dedicated monitors for gaming. I have my pc plugged into my 4k tv and I play all my games on 3840x2160p on ultra and HDR (if available) and I only have an i56600k/gtx1070. Is there a reason I shouldn't be doing this?

Short Answer - Frame rates and response times

TVs cap at 60 frames per second, so basically stuff like shooters, depending on the monitor can hit 240 frames per second. My monitor can do 165 on certain games. I can tell a difference, but can I see all 165 or so frames, I doubt it

As for response times, again, its minute, but monitors can have 1ms response, whereas with TVs, a Samsung with game mode activated will get you as low as 20ms if you're lucky.

I'm gonna set me PC up to my 4k TV at some point, and for single player games, I'm gonna choose looks over frames, but for competitive stuff, I'll go for performance over looks

 

[The Don]

Short Answer - Frame rates and response times

TVs cap at 60 frames per second, so basically stuff like shooters, depending on the monitor can hit 240 frames per second. My monitor can do 165 on certain games. I can tell a difference, but can I see all 165 or so frames, I doubt it

As for response times, again, its minute, but monitors can have 1ms response, whereas with TVs, a Samsung with game mode activated will get you as low as 20ms if you're lucky.

I'm gonna set me PC up to my 4k TV at some point, and for single player games, I'm gonna choose looks over frames, but for competitive stuff, I'll go for performance over looks

Great answer. That would be it, then. I don't play shooters or any type of online competitive gaming. 60fps suits me just fine.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

@The Bloody-Nine - The 'k' in 8700k indicates the processor is unlocked, therefore very easy to overclock. Leaving it an stock speeds is a crime There are plenty of guides on how to overclock on YouTube, it's really not so difficult with a little studying.

You'll get much more horsepower out of your 1080 with a moderate overclock of say 4 or 4.2GHZ.

Is there an inherent risk that goes with overclocking? As you can probably tell, I'm pretty far from an expert.

 

[11101]

Is there an inherent risk that goes with overclocking? As you can probably tell, I'm pretty far from an expert.

Yes. You're tuning it effectively and asking more out of it. Manufacturers design in a bit of overclocking these days so you're generally ok unless you really push it.

 

[Pexbo]

Is there an inherent risk that goes with overclocking? As you can probably tell, I'm pretty far from an expert.

Overheating but to be honest the components have so much self analysis and failsafes these days that the worst that is likely to happen in the short terms is your PC shutting down.

@17 Van der Gouw will love this:
I've got a i7 7700k with a liquid cooling system and I'm currently running stock speeds

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Ok, thanks. Basically my question is, is it worth risking?

 

[2mufc0]

Ok, thanks. Basically my question is, is it worth risking?

If you get a liquid cooler it should be good enough to keep the CPU cool without damaging it.

You also need to make sure your motherboard is designed for OC too.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Not sure about the motherboard (PC is only a couple of months old) but I already have liquid cooling. A Cooler Master, although I had to replace the fan that came with it due to the absurd noise it was making.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

This is my MB:

Gigabyte Z370 HD3: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready

 

[2mufc0]

The Z series motherboard's are designed for OC'ing so yeah you are setup for it, but like i said before you need the K version of the i7. There are plenty of guides on the youtube on how to safely do it.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

Ok, thanks. Basically my question is, is it worth risking?

Unless you go over the chip's maximum voltage limit (which for the 8700k is circa 1.3v - but check it on the intel site first) - the worst you could do is probably crash windows and have to reboot. I've been overclocking for years and never burned out or broken a CPU. When you overclock, you have to type in the desired voltage target, so it's not like you'll go over it by accident.

It will run a little hotter, and in some cases (but not all) you may require an aftermarket cooler. Doesn't necessarily have to be water, either water or a new heat-sink and fan.

Changing out a cooler is very easy. Did you build the rig yourself?

Overheating but to be honest the components have so much self analysis and failsafes these days that the worst that is likely to happen in the short terms is your PC shutting down.

@17 Van der Gouw will love this:
I've got a i7 7700k with a liquid cooling system and I'm currently running stock speeds

to be fair, if it's doing all you need it to do, then I guess that's just fine. Just seems a waste, but hey, if it ain't broke...

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I did not. I picked the parts and PC Specialist built it for me.

 

[Pexbo]

to be fair, if it's doing all you need it to do, then I guess that's just fine. Just seems a waste, but hey, if it ain't broke...

Yeah I haven’t bothered benching it, just casually monitored FPS on some games and there was no benefit. It’s future proofed really, when it starts to get tested I’ll give it more juice.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

I did not. I picked the parts and PC Specialist built it for me.

Did you choose a specific cooler/fan for it, or did it just come with the stock Intel one? Custom built gaming PCs sometimes come with good aftermarket coolers. If you're not sure, take a picture of the inside of your case and we'll tell you

 

[Runner]

Icewind dale
Neverwinter nights

Great games but are you not playing Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire? It's absolutely incredible. I haven't finished it but so far I think it might just be the best rpg I've played.
I would recommend playing the first PoE since you'll know the backstory/lore and can import the same character over to the sequel.