Communicado Official: Casemiro #18

Absolutely, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Irwin, Bruce, Sheringham...need I go on?
Sure. The point I am making is that Fergie and Gill would never (rarely) give five-year contracts to players over 30. And if a player asked for one, they would have tried to move them out.
 
When it comes to Casemiro, there are few things i have issue with, he is on high wages (regardless of his quality), me wanting to remove most leeches from first team and reseting our wage structure, this transfer aint helping that. His age is what ever for me.

His motives for joining and overall motivation, this aint an issue more like i fear that he is joining for wrong reasons and if you look our post SAF history, this might not end how we all hope for.

Best thing we can do as a next step is to now target some young players for same position and develop them, so when the time comes for passing a torch, we actually have plan for it.
 
Amen, he was football, Messi/Ronaldo might be better players or more commited but if i had to pay to watch any player, it would be Ronaldinho.

Ronaldinho was visibly having fun. It's so rare in the current climate where people forget that it's a game the players and viewers are meant to have fun.
 
Signing him is pretty much the same as signing Van Persie. Just we needed a DM desperately and then we needed a ST. Though of course different level of team around.

yeah and just because someone is 30 doesn’t mean they’ve only a year or 2 left at the top level. More and more players these days are looking after themselves better than ever and playing into their mid to late 30s, look at Casemiro’s former teammate Modric who absolutely bossed the CL this season. Casemiro probably looks after himself extremely well, has had a practically injury free career so him being 30 doesn’t concern me at all.
 
yeah and just because someone is 30 doesn’t mean they’ve only a year or 2 left at the top level. More and more players these days are looking after themselves better than ever and playing into their mid to late 30s, look at Casemiro’s former teammate Modric who absolutely bossed the CL this season. Casemiro probably looks after himself extremely well, has had a practically injury free career so him being 30 doesn’t concern me at all.

It's funny because if we had gone out and bought Modric last year along with Varane people would have shit themselves because of how old he is. Yet he's still one of the best midfielders in the world and ran circles around Liverpool in a UCL final. People need to get over the age thing and evaluate players on a case by case basis instead.
 
It's funny because if we had gone out and bought Modric last year along with Varane people would have shit themselves because of how old he is. Yet he's still one of the best midfielders in the world and ran circles around Liverpool in a UCL final. People need to get over the age thing and evaluate players on a case by case basis instead.

That’s United tax isn’t it. If Liverpool or City had signed him there wouldn’t be a word about his age. The minute United make a signing the media and opposition fans come up with anything they can at all to criticise the signing. One of the downsides of being the biggest club in the world.
 
I love Casemiro, he's probably the best in his role but he's not going to single-handedly win United games. Casemiro will help recover balls and give solidity to the team, but you need Modric / Kroos- type of players in midfield or Benzema upfront to win the big stuff.

Casemiro was/is the perfect bodyguard, but he won’t suddenly make United competitive. However, you do need a base to start from and Varane - Martinez with Casemiro shielding is a pretty good spine.
 
Anyone care to guess what words were exchanged between himself and Keane? Casemiro can’t speak English and I doubt Keane can speak Spanish so I’d be interested to know what conversation went on.
Casemiro is Brazilian, his mother tongue is portugese. His Spanish is good but not perfect.
 
Any news of his Jersey number yet?
 
Complete shot in the dark considering he’s yet to kick a ball for us but got a feeling this guy is gonna end up being a big name in our club’s history.
 
Sure. The point I am making is that Fergie and Gill would never (rarely) give five-year contracts to players over 30. And if a player asked for one, they would have tried to move them out.
Can we move on from the Sir Alex era please, he was a special manager and did things most managers could not. This nostalgia way of thinking is why we are where we are.

Its like Chelsea fans and Barca saying Jose and Pep would have done things different if they were in charge instead of Tuchel and Xavi but you don't hear that because they moved on and thats how it should be.
 
Can we move on from the Sir Alex era please, he was a special manager and did things most managers could not. This nostalgia way of thinking is why we are where we are.

Its like Chelsea fans and Barca saying Jose and Pep would have done things different if they were in charge instead of Tuchel and Xavi but you don't hear that because they moved on and thats how it should be.
Yeah but Fergie would never move on like that.
 
Can we move on from the Sir Alex era please, he was a special manager and did things most managers could not. This nostalgia way of thinking is why we are where we are.

Its like Chelsea fans and Barca saying Jose and Pep would have done things different if they were in charge instead of Tuchel and Xavi but you don't hear that because they moved on and thats how it should be.
If they managed the club for more than 2 decades, they would also be taking about them. But your point still stands :wenger:
 
I have no doubt that he is a quality player. But 5-year contract for a 30-year-old. He is the exactly the profile of player Fergie would have been trying to shift out of the club.
If he can help stabilize that midfield for 2-3 years then why not?
 
The Keane thing was cute, but it’s hard not to see it as a cynically bit of PR, considering it’s exactly what we did with Varane and Rio… Which conveniently pitch side player are they gonna make Anthony shake hands with? What’s Lee Sharpe up to?
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Can we move on from the Sir Alex era please, he was a special manager and did things most managers could not. This nostalgia way of thinking is why we are where we are.

Its like Chelsea fans and Barca saying Jose and Pep would have done things different if they were in charge instead of Tuchel and Xavi but you don't hear that because they moved on and thats how it should be.
While I take your point about moving on, I'm 100% certain Chelsea and Barca fans do the exact same thing with José and Pep respectively
 
While I take your point about moving on, I'm 100% certain Chelsea and Barca fans do the exact same thing with José and Pep respectively
Not that I have seen on this forum. They adore their successful coaches but they don't hang on to 'we should do things how they did" like we do with Sir Alex.
 
Had a little grin when they showed him sat in the ground on Monday night, sky put up a table showing what he had won but beneath it all they had his age, there was absolutely no need to include his age in what they were showing.
 

With this guy in front of Martinez and Varane our core looks immeasurably better than Maguire/Lindelof/McT.

All three of the new guys scream leadership and taking responsibility’s let’s hope this feeds through the team.

As much as I thought initially this was a payday for him - and maybe I’m being a bit romantic here - but he genuinely seems to want to play for us…which is strange and refreshing.