Can't wait for Meek's response, it'll be fire and he usually doesn't waste time, then Drake would have to respond.
Yes that very same Jay. He only picked on Nas after Nas was past his peak, didn't say shit prior, same with Mobb Deep. Jay's always been very selective you see. 'Sorry Mr Drizzy for so much art talk,' wow what a call out. Did he go at Wayne, was that the slick 'y'all ain't got my lady money' line? What the hell does Freeway and Beanie handling their beefs have to do with Jay, I'm sure they could handle the beef by themselves.
50 did not build his career on beef, that is a lie, at his peak he was the best songwriter in rap. In Da Club was on the same album as Back Down, but by persistently beefing 50 didn't actually keep competitive spirit alive instead he just trivialised the whole process.
Drake's probably already got another one lined up. He's baiting Meek.
I have a feeling he will have something more substantial for him on Views From the 6.
OVO Fest is coming up, he's gonna hit Meek again very soon.
I must have missed that. And 50's first big break was How to Rob which was a song where he dissed basically every rapper. That led to Jay-z taking a shot on Vol 3.
You missed In Da Club?? 50 Cent's hook game from 2003-2005?? Big break? Hardly, if anything it made the industry black ball him a bit, then he got shot and then well you know.
In Da Club was just like the typical club banger every rapper was making back then. Stand Up by Ludacris was probably better. And Kanye existed in 2003-2005 so 50 was not close to being the best songwriter in Hip Hop.
Revisionism is a beautiful thing, 50 came out the gate with In Da Club, 21 Questions, P.I.M.P whilst being a gritty street rapper which labels wouldn't touch, man he clean removed Ja Rule from the face of the Earth and Ja gave us hits on hits but when 50 went at him no one wanted to know him. No one was seeing 50 in 2003-05, not even 'Ye even if 'Ye is the better artist.
Jay and Nas were sending subliminals back in the late 90s waaaay before Takeover and Ether, he was also sending shots at Mobb Deep back in the 90s too waay before Summer Jam....go and listen.
Jay has always been selective ? Definitely wasn't selective when he dissed Joe Budden,Cam,Beans,Wayne,Birdman,Wayne again,Jim Jones etc I'm dying to know where you got selective from when he has been beefing with cats since he started rapping, he even dissed Mase in the 90s, Drake spoke about old rappers buying art and Hov responded what did you expect...a diss record ? You expect a diss record for every jab ? It was up to Drake to take the beef further since Hov called him out, that jab about his lady's money was actually about Birdman not Wayne.
You said Jay (and 50) helped eradicate the competitive nature of rap and I mentioned his role in Freeway and Cass' battle and Beans' battle with Jada as reminders that he was very much promoting the competitive side of rap when he wasn't active, refuting your claim.
50 started off with Nas as an affiliate ( almost member) of the firm, he was largely unsuccessful for the most part in the 90s so he decided to channel his street ego of being a bully and a trouble maker and make a career out of it, leading to the power of the dollar( a project) which had tracks like How to rob and Ghetto Quran which sparked controversy in the rap game as the former was a diss to rap artists in the game and the latter dry snitching on real street dudes giving him the much needed buzz ( also fueling his beef with Preme who had ties with Gotti of Murder Inc), a beef with Ja then ensued leading to him beefing with virtually everyone in the rap game.
During 50s reign he was the only thing popping out of NY and Hip Hop starting embracing the south more which ushered in the Jeezy,T.I and Weezy era ( the last breeds of the 90s) which signified the beginning of modern rap, less guns more auto tune, more strip club music, skinny jeans,FL studio etc those things along with the Internet and social media and the commercialisation of hip hop made beef less important.
It was 2003 labels were still obsessed with gritty street rappers. DMX was still a thing back then. And it really was the same formula every rapper was expected to do at the time. You first release a club banger(In Da Club) than a song for the women(21 questions).
Which is why no one wanted to touch 50? It's one thing to have a formula and it's another thing to smash it out of the ballpark.
He was signed by Columbia Records. Nas wanted to bring him on tour and Destiny's Child had a song with him. Then his progress was stalled by him being shot. Eventually Eminem and Dr. Dre swooped in once Columbia dropped him. So it was not like major labels were ignoring him.
50 only sold all those records because he got shot 9 times.
fecking had me hating Ja rule when Ja has a better discography and is the god when it comes to those rap+rnb tracks.
I guess everyone wanted to appear real and there was nothing realer than getting shot 9 times,he even had us anticipating Tony Yayo's album.
50 is actually the real fraud......lowkey.
fecking had me hating Ja rule when Ja has a better discography and is the god when it comes to those rap+rnb tracks.
I guess everyone wanted to appear real and there was nothing realer than getting shot 9 times,he even had us anticipating Tony Yayo's album.
50 is actually the real fraud......lowkey.
But he got dropped as you said, and no one wanted to sign him after he got shot, but in the end him getting shot made his career.
*timeout*
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Jay and 50 have clearly had plenty of beefs, I am not disputing that (Jay still selective when he goes at dudes though IMO). However the way they have approached their respective beefs have influenced this current generation the most. Jay-Z to my mind has popularised subliminals to such a level now that rappers almost deal exclusively in them and 50 beefed so much he made beef kind of seem lame and allowed rappers to brush off beef as attention seeking. In the end you have an era of rappers that actually don't want to make any actual diss records and trade bars with their peers even though there is ample opportunity to do so.
Modern hip hop is less commercial than the era we've just discussed though, and those guys down south actually don't ever stop talking about their guns, they just croon in autotune about it.
Subliminals have been around since the 80s,Jay was/is great at them it still doesn't mean he is selective or he influenced a generation,it just means he is great at them, he has been a major artist for 90% of his career so he is naturally a target for the lesser artists,not giving someone a buzz is different from being selective, name a relevant diss record/artist he selectively avoided(not MC hammer or an intoxicated dmx at a radio station).
Pusha T didn't even acknowledge his diss track as a diss and he didn't mention Drake or Wayne (even though it was obvious) so how do you expect to get a response, you want a top artist to respond ? Make a full diss record and call his name.
Kendrick didn't respond to every artist that made a response to control, cause he didn't have to.
Pusha T didn't even acknowledge his diss track as a diss and he didn't mention Drake or Wayne (even though it was obvious) so how do you expect to get a response, you want a top artist to respond ? Make a full diss record and call his name.
Kendrick didn't respond to every artist that made a response to control, cause he didn't have to.
I did 56 broads on a European tour and they was all crazy
Has anyone listened to Pound Syndrome (Hopsin's new album)? I think 'No Hope' and 'Fort Collins' and the skit 'No Words' pretty much sums up how I feel about Hip Hop these days, not mad about the album overall though. 'Remona' is enough to put you off Hopsin for life.
Also, I highly recommend 'The Growing Process' by Dizzy Wright. I think he's as good as anyone at the moment, it's excellent. Sometimes I hear an album and just feel like I have to buy it, this is one of them.
Also, I highly recommend 'The Growing Process' by Dizzy Wright. I think he's as good as anyone at the moment, it's excellent. Sometimes I hear an album and just feel like I have to buy it, this is one of them.
The album we have all been waiting for, the REAL saviour of hip hop, the legend...its over for these clowns.
Its time!
56 Nights is so crazy, that last 5 song run is godly.
I think 56 Nights is my favorite of the 3 mixtapes.
A whole 4 months later and March Madness -> Omar Gooding Transition -> Trap Ni**as still has me like (this came out the same day as Mata's wondergoal up at Anfield, what a weekend that was!):
Looks like Memphis is a hip-hop head (observe his RT's on Twitter).
Young Buck coming back at Rick Ross
He killed that 2nd verse, but i miss the old buck.
*tunes into Funk Flex expecting to hear Flex Bombs and a diss song*
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*hears Omarion playing*.
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*hears Omarion playing*.
Flex ain't even got the track yet, he's sitting there refreshing his gmail and stalling, rap beef in 2015 <<<.
Rappers must have been responding to jabs after 24hrs in the 90s.
Flex: 'Ayo I got a Blessings reference!!!!!'
*plays the actual Blessings song*
*plays the actual Blessings song*
Flex is a fuccboi. Had me waiting in the car for 1 hr. And I don't even listen to Hot 97.
Fraud flex
People still want to tell me this man cannot rap. What the feck is a Meek Mill?
Wondering who wrote those bars for him.
Shout out to the bad bitches wifing niggas.
Is that a worold tour or your girl tour.
It's over for Meek.
I woke up this morning, heard the song, then prayed for Meek.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Considering that Meek was trying to Milli Vanilli Drake this is an appropriate response.
Drake: 2 songs 0 tweets
Meek: 0 songs 20 tweets
The irony that the perceived softest rapper in the game, is the only one keeping it true to Hip Hop and responding on tracks only.
He even took some shots at himself "You getting bodied by a singing ni**a" probably in response to Meek's "baby lotion soft" tweet
Meek: 0 songs 20 tweets
The irony that the perceived softest rapper in the game, is the only one keeping it true to Hip Hop and responding on tracks only.
He even took some shots at himself "You getting bodied by a singing ni**a" probably in response to Meek's "baby lotion soft" tweet