Cold War against China?

China just borrowed dollars in global credit markets at essentially the same cost as the US
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...bond-sale-yields-almost-same-as-us-treasuries



1. China is borrowing US dollars at a super low interest rate, and the demand for their bonds is huge (almost 20 times more than what was offered)
2. China uses these borrowed US dollars to help countries in the Global South pay their own USD debts, and avoid big financial crises like in the 1980s
3. In return, China secures long-term deals for minerals, energy, and other resources, which these countries will sell to China in Chinese currency
4. China repays bonds with cheaper dollars as commodities reprice higher in tighter supply-constrained markets

Clever move!
 


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China just borrowed dollars in global credit markets at essentially the same cost as the US
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...bond-sale-yields-almost-same-as-us-treasuries



1. China is borrowing US dollars at a super low interest rate, and the demand for their bonds is huge (almost 20 times more than what was offered)
2. China uses these borrowed US dollars to help countries in the Global South pay their own USD debts, and avoid big financial crises like in the 1980s
3. In return, China secures long-term deals for minerals, energy, and other resources, which these countries will sell to China in Chinese currency
4. China repays bonds with cheaper dollars as commodities reprice higher in tighter supply-constrained markets

Clever move!


The bidding is all being done by domestic chinese bidders...which is a sign of something else. What that something else is, I'm not sure. But this isn't the first time they've done this either.

Also please remove that tweet - points 1 -3 are valid and then it goes into some rant about how you need to buy commodities, gold silver because the USD is useless and is about to crash....
 
The bidding is all being done by domestic chinese bidders...which is a sign of something else. What that something else is, I'm not sure. But this isn't the first time they've done this either.

Also please remove that tweet - points 1 -3 are valid and then it goes into some rant about how you need to buy commodities, gold silver because the USD is useless and is about to crash....

Source?
 
It's quite interesting that not a single post has mentioned what the Ukrainians or Taiwanese wants in this thread.

Regarding Taiwan and the 1st island chain, Japan and South Korea also rely heavily on a free Taiwan, otherwise they'll be under the thumb of the CCP when it comes to the trade routes in east Asia.
 
But it’s not slippery slope fallacy.

Imagine the pacific is a 15th century fortress and the USA is the civilian settlements in the middle. Taiwan is the gate. If the gate is lost, the walls, watchtowers and such will soon fall.

What I’m saying is this isn’t slippery slope it’s reality. If Taiwan falls, the island chains fall with it.

At the point of Taiwan falling, the Us navy cannnot operate to capacity without being intercepted and the same goes for the air force. It cuts the chain in two. It puts the US + allies in such a strategic disadvantage that the everything you say is redundant.

Investing in military doesn’t change the fact that the US position without Taiwan is extreme disadvantage
Why is the gate to America sitting a couple of miles of the Chinese coastline?
 
It's quite interesting that not a single post has mentioned what the Ukrainians or Taiwanese wants in this thread.

Regarding Taiwan and the 1st island chain, Japan and South Korea also rely heavily on a free Taiwan, otherwise they'll be under the thumb of the CCP when it comes to the trade routes in east Asia.
I agree, I am just not sure the US understands in its bones what is at stake for the US itself - let alone the rest of countries that share Western values - if Taiwan fell. (I think China knows, though.) I don't mean Chinese invasion fleets sailing into San Francisco Bay, I mean it would mark the end of the ability / will of the US to over time set the global rules which it has so enormously benefited from (as have countries within its orbit), politically, economically and militarily. It would be a significant marker of imperial decline, so to speak.
 
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Why is the gate to America sitting a couple of miles of the Chinese coastline?

Because there's thousands of miles of nothing but water and tiny tiny islands separating China and USA outside of Taiwan?
 
To a psychopath, if you are stronger than the person next to you then it might make sense to beat them over the head and take their lunch. If you're not a psychopath then it doesn't, maybe it makes more sense to share lunch with them and make a friend. You're really overcomplicating it to a tremendous degree.
Could be.
 
Couldn't it more logically be viewed as the gateway to China then?
You have to understand, Earth is currently America's planet so they're allowed to encroach on whatever territory they want in the name of self-defence
 
You have to understand, Earth is currently America's planet so they're allowed to encroach on whatever territory they want in the name of self-defence
Oh yeah, whoops, keep forgetting that.

Nothing to do with that stop being facetious.

Taiwan is the gates to USA because Taiwan as a democratic state wants to be, chosen to be and serves their interests in doing so.
 
Nothing to do with that stop being facetious.

Taiwan is the gates to USA because Taiwan as a democratic state wants to be, chosen to be and serves their interests in doing so.
If the Americans are so determined, and I have no clue here, tbh, to defend Taiwan, why did they move - strategically to be fair to Biden, about the only really smart thing he did over four years - their chip manufacturing back to the United States? They're hedging, clearly, due to the uncertainty surrounding logistics in the world moving forward. Was almost a complete reliance upon Taiwain and some other states (China, too, I think) for import of chips used in high tech and even low tech apparatus. But the CHIPS acts (and there is a few hundred billion more where that came from) is all about securing the US' own manufacturing industry from "raw to cooked" (a reversal of the de-industrialization practices during the era of globalization). Plays really well with workers because these are/can be the kind of jobs which used to exist at autoplants. And that is the heartland of America which has three times now gone for Trump (because of this hollowing out of the American manufacturing process: off-shoring it at scale) because many of these towns and small cities have been decimated by economic collapse.

That is, if I were Taiwanese and seriously concerned with a Chinese invasion, I wouldn't be particularly reassured by American moves to detach, insofar as they can, strategical economic ties from the island.

You're the resident military expert (i.e. that is literally what you do for a living). My question is this, rhetorically: surely any invasion of Taiwan would mirror the Russian invasion of Ukraine? That is, the Americans would seek to exact as much "punishment" upon the Russians/Chinese as they could whilst remaining directly removed from the battlefield (providing all manner of weapons, no doubt).

That such an invasion would have to be amphibious is what makes it very difficult for China even with vastly superior air and sea assets. You still have to assault, full on, an island that will defend itself. And in wargames there are scenarios where China wins and loses and America wins but American victory qua Chinese retreat is not sufficient (when they project 30 years ahead) to actually equal a victory at all. It is phyrric.

That takes me back to oneniltothearsinal. I think he's right. It's in neither states' interest (China or America) for this to happen. In Taiwan, I mean, not the smaller islands and so forth where China will and is asserting itself.I mean, China has a landmass which is enormous and a population five times? larger than the US? An economy which in PPP terms is the largest in the world but with nuance, qua GDP and per capita, the second largest. Why would China, ancient players of the "war game" risk everything for what is absolutely an uncertain move? It already has the South Korean border as the US mark of delimitation where, if things go hot, or semi-hot, America will act along that line (and with Japan, too, with its bases there). I don't see a reason for a Chinese base in Taiwan or an American base there either. It moves the two toward a conflict that each emerge from greatly damaged.
 
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If the Americans are so determined, and I have no clue here, tbh, to defend Taiwan, why did they move - strategically to be fair to Biden, about the only really smart thing he did over four years - their chip manufacturing back to the United States? They're hedging, clearly, due to the uncertainty surrounding logistics in the world moving forward. Was almost a complete reliance upon Taiwain and some other states (China, too, I think) for import of chips used in high tech and even low tech apparatus. But the CHIPS acts (and there is a few hundred billion more where that came from) is all about securing the US' own manufacturing industry from "raw to cooked" (a reversal of the de-industrialization practices during the era of globalization). Plays really well with workers because these are/can be the kind of jobs which used to exist at autoplants. And that is the heartland of America which has three times now gone for Trump (because of this hollowing out of the American manufacturing process: off-shoring it at scale) because many of these towns and small cities have been decimated by economic collapse.

That is, if I were Taiwanese and seriously concerned with a Chinese invasion, I wouldn't be particularly reassured by American moves to detach, insofar as they can, strategical economic ties from the island.

You're the resident military expert (i.e. that is literally what you do for a living). My question is this, rhetorically: surely any invasion of Taiwan would mirror the Russian invasion of Ukraine? That is, the Americans would seek to exact as much "punishment" upon the Russians/Chinese as they could whilst remaining directly removed from the battlefield (providing all manner of weapons, no doubt).

The first part of the question is pretty simple when you think about it.

If the USA is hellbent on defending Taiwan, it doesn’t make TSMC facilities immune from China. China can still rain down a barrage of IRBMs into those facilities and crippling the world supply.
 
Nothing to do with that stop being facetious.

Taiwan is the gates to USA because Taiwan as a democratic state wants to be, chosen to be and serves their interests in doing so.

But that isn’t what you’ve been suggesting?

If you’d said Taiwan are the gates of the free world or democratic world or their self determination should be respected, you’d at least have a point, even if others disagreed with you.

But you have explicitly said that the gates to the USA lie at Taiwan. That the actual west coast of the US would be at risk if Taiwan fell. That the military with the most global reach in history is the ‘civilian settlement’ in a fort.

Most countries do just fine surrounded by other countries, some hostile, some not. Most don’t require thousands of miles of ocean, or tens of thousands of troops positioned in concentric rings around another country , to be able to say the are ‘defending’ themselves.
 
Nothing to do with that stop being facetious.

Taiwan is the gates to USA because Taiwan as a democratic state wants to be, chosen to be and serves their interests in doing so.
You can probably see why China are so up tight about it, similar to America and Cuba.
 
Worth reading the wiki on the Thucydides Trap, the critique is pretty interesting.

This section stands out for me, given there are some signs that China could be near the peak of its power given demographics: "the impetus that led to war was not the impending threat of a hegemonic power being surpassed but rather an emerging power lashing out when its rapid rise transmogrified into stagnation".

I wonder how that looks in game theory terms.
 
Worth reading the wiki on the Thucydides Trap, the critique is pretty interesting.

This section stands out for me, given there are some signs that China could be near the peak of its power given demographics: "the impetus that led to war was not the impending threat of a hegemonic power being surpassed but rather an emerging power lashing out when its rapid rise transmogrified into stagnation".

I wonder how that looks in game theory terms.
That, to me, and the rest of the world, in economic terms, refers to Europe and the United States (the old post-world war order).

As of 2024, the BRICS+ group, which includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and additional countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the UAE, controls around 36.7% of the global GDP in purchasing power parity (PPP) terms. This share surpasses the G7, which holds a smaller proportion of the global economy in PPP terms.

This dominance in PPP is indicative of BRICS+'s growing influence, especially when considering the economic diversity and size of countries like China and India, which significantly contribute to this figure. The shift in global economic power continues to evolve as more nations join the BRICS+ bloc, expanding its impact on global trade, finance, and policy.
All economic theory I've read has China, the US and India as sharing the top 3 spots in GDP/PPP terms for the rest of the century. Two of those nations are members of BRICS. Then there are the other members. Only two EU states are in the top ten in the next thirty years and those are Germany and the UK (if not the UK, then France). The rest is US and rest of non-EU world.

Dedollarization, which absolutely will happen (inevitable now), but not for some years, will also verify the above. Reify it, I mean. This isn't the same world order any of us who are adults were born into. Indeed, not since the Mongol Empire, and subsequent Ottoman, really, has there been such a seismic shift in the global ordering.This is entirely speculative but I believe some people in DC assumed Russia was as the Ottoman Empire was to the British and French (and Russians) in WW1. All these powers knew the Ottoman was falling apart but they weren't sure exactly when (none of them had/have crystal balls - well, except for the Saudis and that weird orb thing Trump was holding).


This is an open question to anyone who thinks they have an answer: what happens when fusion or a new type of gamma styled fission (i.e., energy being supplied by direct current in the form of "signal" as per broadband but much denser than that - there are people who can clarify what I mean here and amend mistakes) - what happens to those economies which include Russia, the Saudis, and the United States (and OPEC in general) when their control over the energy market has been completely eroded? The Russians and the US are diverse enough to handle it imo and the Saudis, to me, have been modernizing for precisely something like this in diversification of their various investments. But it will ring the proverbial bells of change on a vast scale. This is projected to occur within the same timelines as these hypothetical wars. Over thirty or so years.
 
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That, to me, and the rest of the world, in economic terms, refers to Europe and the United States (the old post-world war order).


All economic theory I've read has China, the US and India as sharing the top 3 spots in GDP/PPP terms for the rest of the century. Two of those nations are members of BRICS. Then there are the other members. Only two EU states are in the top ten in the next thirty years and those are Germany and the UK (if not the UK, then France). The rest is US and rest of non-EU world.

Dedollarization, which absolutely will happen (inevitable now), but not for some years, will also verify the above. Reify it, I mean. This isn't the same world order any of us who are adults were born into. Indeed, not since the Mongol Empire, and subsequent Ottoman, really, has there been such a seismic shift in the global ordering.This is entirely speculative but I believe some people in DC assumed Russia was as the Ottoman Empire was to the British and French (and Russians) in WW1. All these powers knew the Ottoman was falling apart but they weren't sure exactly when (none of them had/have crystal balls - well, except for the Saudis and that weird orb thing Trump was holding).


This is an open question to anyone who thinks they have an answer: what happens when fusion or a new type of gamma styled fission (i.e., energy being supplied by direct current in the form of "signal" as per broadband but much denser than that - there are people who can clarify what I mean here and amend mistakes) - what happens to those economies which include Russia, the Saudis, and the United States (and OPEC in general) when their control over the energy market has been completely eroded? The Russians and the US are diverse enough to handle it imo and the Saudis, to me, have been modernizing for precisely something like this in diversification of their various investments. But it will ring the proverbial bells of change on a vast scale. This is projected to occur within the same timelines as these hypothetical wars. Over thirty or so years.

Come on man BRICS?

I don't know why people think BRICS is a functional organization. There's zero binding agreements and it's basically a forum for discussion. Two of the countries in BRICS are at geopolitical crossroads with each other, another is sanctioned to shit, and in your quote the three extra countries are all solely dependent on the US for security if not outright US puppets (Sisi).

As for de-dollarization - it'll only happen when there's an actual alternative. RMB/CNY is not an alternative because it manually pegs itself against the dollar, so you're practically buying the dollar anyway. I don't see there being an alternative anytime soon.

This is wishful thinking as opposed to reality.
 
But that isn’t what you’ve been suggesting?

If you’d said Taiwan are the gates of the free world or democratic world or their self determination should be respected, you’d at least have a point, even if others disagreed with you.

But you have explicitly said that the gates to the USA lie at Taiwan. That the actual west coast of the US would be at risk if Taiwan fell. That the military with the most global reach in history is the ‘civilian settlement’ in a fort.

Most countries do just fine surrounded by other countries, some hostile, some not. Most don’t require thousands of miles of ocean, or tens of thousands of troops positioned in concentric rings around another country , to be able to say the are ‘defending’ themselves.
You can probably see why China are so up tight about it, similar to America and Cuba.

USA and Cuba was for ideological reasons, that turned into geopolitical. But Cuba was a mistake.

The right move always has been that if a country is geopolitically important, align them closely to you via soft power, not military domineerence.

Take for example Soloman Islands, China have a security pact with them is a huge problem for the West's geopolitical position, and yet you don't see US Marines invading the country or threatening to.
 
Come on man BRICS?

I don't know why people think BRICS is a functional organization. There's zero binding agreements and it's basically a forum for discussion. Two of the countries in BRICS are at geopolitical crossroads with each other, another is sanctioned to shit, and in your quote the three extra countries are all solely dependent on the US for security if not outright US puppets (Sisi).

As for de-dollarization - it'll only happen when there's an actual alternative. RMB/CNY is not an alternative because it manually pegs itself against the dollar, so you're practically buying the dollar anyway. I don't see there being an alternative anytime soon.

This is wishful thinking as opposed to reality.
Did you observe the meeting recently in Russia? Because they are very serious about what they're doing in economic terms. I take your point about internal disagreements, but what BRICS is now need not be, will not be, what it is in ten years time. You will start to see binding agreements.

Take Iran and Saudi Arabia. They have never (in recent history) been less hostile to each other despite that this lessening of hostility threatens to implode at any moment. But now see Russia and Iran. The Russians and Iranians have agreed to a widescale set of arrangements including nuclear cooperation and also air defense systems. This came from that meeting.

BRICS, to me, seems highly functional. All these nations are projected to rise and they share that in common. Russia, India, China, - all have border disputes but the Chinese and Indian premiers met at this meeting to resolve their own issues. This is not some "feckless" organization written down on the back of a cigarette packet. It even visualizes a special BRICS bank in opposition/competition to the WB and IMF. These are not airy/fairy proposals. The primary nations involved are all entirely serious about it. Check the Saudi/China relationship regarding oil these days. They insist that the dollar be left out of the exchange. And this is only minor for now but it is spreading and the death of the dollar as reserve currency is absolutely inevitable within two decades and probably no more than that.

Why the Americans don't really care that much (they actually care a lot at the moment) going forward is because there will not be a replacement which is nation-centric. I.e., once the hegemony of America is over, there is no hegemony around the corner to take its place. This is about the only hope I hold for future events.

That replacement could be anything. In this day and age it could be algorithmic non-partisan banking exchange mechanism that a series of economists - not us - would have to comment on.

BRICS, as an informal coalition, has made several important binding agreements in recent years that reflect its collective interests in areas like economic development, financial stability, and geopolitical influence. Some of the most notable initiatives include:
New Development Bank (NDB): Established in 2014, the NDB is one of the key institutions created by BRICS. It aims to finance infrastructure and sustainable development projects in emerging economies, particularly within BRICS nations. The bank has provided loans to various projects focusing on development and infrastructure
Contingent Reserve Arrangement (CRA): Another binding agreement is the CRA, a framework designed to provide financial support to member nations in the event of a crisis. This arrangement, created in 2014, aims to bolster financial stability and protect the members from global economic shocks
Political Coordination and Governance Reform: BRICS countries have made binding commitments to advocate for reform in global governance institutions, especially in the IMF and World Bank, to give greater representation to emerging economies. This includes pushing for more inclusivity in decision-making processes and financial institutions
Unified Digital Currency Initiative: There has been growing interest within BRICS to develop a gold-backed digital currency, aiming to reduce reliance on the US dollar and strengthen financial autonomy among member nations. This initiative is still under exploration but represents a significant step toward reshaping international financial systems
Some binding, some others are merely understanding and solid or loose agreements (I don't want a personal rehash of our semantic dispute over what is or is not "binding" in political terms when I basically agree with you anyway, it is either binding or it is not: however, what is a loose or solid agreement always has scope to become something which is binding to some respect. And BRICS is that kind of forum.
 
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US won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands​


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-if-china-establishes-base-in-solomon-islands

You might want to read the actual quote outside of sensationalist headlines

“Of course, we have respect for the Solomon Islands sovereignty, but we also wanted to let them know that if steps were taken to establish a de facto permanent military presence, power projection capabilities, or a military installation, then we would have significant concerns, and we would very naturally respond to those concerns,” he said.
 
You might want to read the actual quote outside of sensationalist headlines
The headline is accurate. He was asked if a response could involve military action and he refused to give a straight answer. Every man and his dog know what that means.
 
Did you observe the meeting recently in Russia? Because they are very serious about what they're doing in economic terms. I take your point about internal disagreements, but what BRICS is now need not be, will not be, what it is in ten years time. You will start to see binding agreements.

Take Iran and Saudi Arabia. They have never (in recent history) been less hostile to each other despite that this lessening of hostility threatens to implode at any moment. But now see Russia and Iran. The Russians and Iranians have agreed to a widescale set of arrangements including nuclear cooperation and also air defense systems. This came from that meeting.

BRICS, to me, seems highly functional. All these nations are projected to rise and they share that in common. Russia, India, China, - all have border disputes but the Chinese and Indian premiers met at this meeting to resolve their own issues. This is not some "feckless" organization written down on the back of a cigarette packet. It even visualizes a special BRICS bank in opposition/competition to the WB and IMF. These are not airy/fairy proposals. The primary nations involved are all entirely serious about it. Check the Saudi/China relationship regarding oil these days. They insist that the dollar be left out of the exchange. And this is only minor for now but it is spreading and the death of the dollar as reserve currency is absolutely inevitable within two decades and probably no more than that.

Why the Americans don't really care that much (they actually care a lot at the moment) going forward is because there will not be a replacement which is nation-centric. I.e., once the hegemony of America is over, there is no hegemony around the corner to take its place. This is about the only hope I hold for future events.

This actually happened and said bank went bankrupt...because nobody would buy its offerings unless supported by high securitization. So they went and bought a load of dollars to underwrite their offerings...only for the Fed to increase interest rates and the bank couldn't afford its dollar denominated liabilities and went bankrupt.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-bank...enge-the-dollar-now-needs-the-dollar-d9dc27ee

https://markets.businessinsider.com...ebt-ukraine-war-russia-dedollarization-2023-6
 
The headline is accurate. He was asked if a response could involve military action and he refused to give a straight answer. Every man and his dog know what that means.

No, it doesn't.

Given the amount of Geopolitical L's the West has taken since 2014, and the amount of times it has actually responded with military force (see: 1, when Global shipping routes started getting attacked), Solomon islands is down the list.
 
Aren't some of the islands in the South China sea around the Philippines potentially a bigger short-term threat at the moment? There's a military pact in place where the US should get involved if any of their islands are attacked. China have been pretty aggressive (although just on the right side of not attacking) over the last few years.
 
This actually happened and said bank went bankrupt...because nobody would buy its offerings unless supported by high securitization. So they went and bought a load of dollars to underwrite their offerings...only for the Fed to increase interest rates and the bank couldn't afford its dollar denominated liabilities and went bankrupt.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-bank...enge-the-dollar-now-needs-the-dollar-d9dc27ee

https://markets.businessinsider.com...ebt-ukraine-war-russia-dedollarization-2023-6
Do you honestly see the WB/IMF retaining the hegemonic positions they occupy now with respect to world finance in the next forty years? Because, barring a complete restructure (one is always American in leadership and the other always European) I do not see how it lasts.
 
You might want to read the actual quote outside of sensationalist headlines
The quote does sort of indicate a military reaction. But this is soft power. The MIC (in whatever nation) uses publications like these to make their points for them every now and then. Leak a quote here and watch the press core eat it up. Going to war over the Solomon Islands does seem mental, though, has to be said.

A population of ten people and a few thousand sheep.
 
No, it doesn't.

Given the amount of Geopolitical L's the West has taken since 2014, and the amount of times it has actually responded with military force (see: 1, when Global shipping routes started getting attacked), Solomon islands is down the list.

Just remove your USA cap for a moment. You know full well if that was a russian or chinese official talking about a small country you would absolutely read it as a threat. Because it is.
 
Just remove your USA cap for a moment. You know full well if that was a russian or chinese official talking about a small country you would absolutely read it as a threat. Because it is.

No, because China/Russia has been saying this shit since time began and 99.9% of time nothing has happened.

You know there's a wikipedia page called "China's final warning" which ironically the Russians developed, which basically asserts that China keeps making bullshit aggressive comments and warnings and then...does nothing to act on them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

Hell there's even a subreddit about this phenomena

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaWarns/

Rather than try and decipher statements and warnings, look at what they're actually doing.
 
No, because China/Russia has been saying this shit since time began and 99.9% of time nothing has happened.

You know there's a wikipedia page called "China's final warning" which ironically the Russians developed, which basically asserts that China keeps making bullshit aggressive comments and warnings and then...does nothing to act on them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

Hell there's even a subreddit about this phenomena

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaWarns/

Rather than try and decipher statements and warnings, look at what they're actually doing.
You're changing the goal posts. You said the US never threatened the solomon islands, but they did. We know it's extremely unlikely to materialize, almost impossible, but the threat was made nonetheless.
 
Do you honestly see the WB/IMF retaining the hegemonic positions they occupy now with respect to world finance in the next forty years? Because, barring a complete restructure (one is always American in leadership and the other always European) I do not see how it lasts.

The problem isn't that the power structures of IMF/WB are incredibly strong and domineering.

It's the biggest alternative keeps taking suicidal self-inflicted L's that really detract from market confidence in them or just makes everyone think twice.

There was a conversation earlier around rationality, and honestly China's internal politics and "diplomacy" is often not rational but emotional based.

Then you have countries like Brazil and India who are also alienating potential partners by going for the populist / Hindu nationalist route.

None of the alternatives have a viable, "We're open for business" sign loud and bright.
 
You're changing the goal posts. You said the US never threatened the solomon islands, but they did. We know it's extremely unlikely to materialize, almost impossible, but the threat was made nonetheless.

It wasn't a threat. It literally started with, "We respect Solomon island sovereignity" and ends with, "We will respond if a Chinese base is built there."

How is that a threat? You know the US said the same thing to Djibouti? Do you know what the response was after China built a base there?

"Hey Djibouti, we will pay you to also build a base here."

The US is not at war with China or Solomon Islands, a "response" does not characterize a military threat, unlike say Putin saying, "We will respond to Missiles being sent into Russia," which is clearly a military context.
 
It wasn't a threat. It literally started with, "We respect Solomon island sovereignity" and ends with, "We will respond if a Chinese base is built there."

How is that a threat? You know the US said the same thing to Djibouti? Do you know what the response was after China built a base there?

"Hey Djibouti, we will pay you to also build a base here."

The US is not at war with China or Solomon Islands, a "response" does not characterize a military threat, unlike say Putin saying, "We will respond to Missiles being sent into Russia," which is clearly a military context.
The article stated he was specifically asked about a possible response being a military one and even mentioned australia's rethoric which was far more aggressive. His response being a non response is the classical non-threatening threat. Of course he's not gonna say it but it's implicit. And you'd see it too if it was coming from an america opponent.
 
No, because China/Russia has been saying this shit since time began and 99.9% of time nothing has happened.

You know there's a wikipedia page called "China's final warning" which ironically the Russians developed, which basically asserts that China keeps making bullshit aggressive comments and warnings and then...does nothing to act on them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

Hell there's even a subreddit about this phenomena

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaWarns/

Rather than try and decipher statements and warnings, look at what they're actually doing.
It's kind of weird that you also believe that if Taiwan falls then the West Coast of America will fall then.
 
The article stated he was specifically asked about a possible response being a military one and even mentioned australia's rethoric which was far more aggressive. His response being a non response is the classical non-threatening threat. Of course he's not gonna say it but it's implicit. And you'd see it too if it was coming from an america opponent.

I agree Australia's rhetoric is pretty heavy and is a threat - and it's pretty poor.

“We wanted to outline for our friends in the Solomons, what our concerns are,” said Kritenbrink. “Prime minister Sogavare indicated that in the Solomon Islands’ view, the agreement they’ve concluded has solely domestic implications. But we’ve made clear that there are potential regional security implications of the agreement not just for ourselves, but for allies and partners across the region.”

On Tuesday, Kritenbrink reiterated the US’s willingness to act in the region if a military base were established by China.

“Of course, we have respect for the Solomon Islands sovereignty, but we also wanted to let them know that if steps were taken to establish a de facto permanent military presence, power projection capabilities, or a military installation, then we would have significant concerns, and we would very naturally respond to those concerns,” he said.

When asked what that response could involve, he said: “Look, I’m not going to speculate and I’m not in a position to talk about what the United States may or may not do in such a situation.”

Pressed on whether he would rule out the prospect of the US taking military action against Solomon Islands were a naval base to be established, and, if not, whether he was comfortable with Australian prime minister Scott Morrison’s talk of the base being a “red line” for Australia, he said: “I don’t have a lot to add beyond what I’ve already stated.”

The question posed first was "Will USA respond" followed by "Will the response be military?" in which case there was no comment.

So to highlight your first point, he didn't add anything regarding military and the comment he did make was entirely about a "response" not a military one which was asked later.