‘We burned through cash, you can’t see where that billion pound has been spent’
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It seems there's a bit of a divide in the reporting - possibly indicating a struggle between EtH and the board.
The Dutch journo (who I assume is Ten Hag's mouthpiece) saying we intend to sign both Gakpo and Anthony...
...and The Telegraph (possibly briefed by the club) saying it's one or the other.
I'm swaying more towards The Telegraph - I think the notion of signing both is wishful thinking on the manager's part.
The Dutch journo (who I assume is Ten Hag's mouthpiece) saying we intend to sign both Gakpo and Anthony...
...and The Telegraph (possibly briefed by the club) saying it's one or the other.
I'm swaying more towards The Telegraph - I think the notion of signing both is wishful thinking on the manager's part.
I could see both with the potential threat of Ronaldo leaving and Rashford's form.
We currently have one of the most toothless attacks on the top 8, so this is a pressing need. Young and hungry players with a point to prove are exactly what we need
No, Timber won that award.
He's also played up front for PSV, he doesn't ALWAYS play on the left. On occasions, they played a front two, with Goetze in behind them.
I do like his ability to find the corners. Get tired of seeing strikers shit a brick and smash it straight at the keeper down the middle. Gakpo Antony Sancho could be a real exciting attack that offers different skills.
That's a bizarre take. Amad has bags of skill and technique but lacks physicality and speed. Gakpo is pretty close to the opposite of that.
Also we haven't spent £37m on him, much of that was add ons that I assume haven't been triggered.
It’s hard to judge attacking players on their performances in the Dutch League as the defending is so weak
Thanks. My mistake thought I read in here he did. Still people who watch the Eredivisie seen to rate him highly enough.
What do you think of Anthony?
I also thought Gakpo was player of the year.
Where are we getting that from?
Was he young player of the year or something?
You were right- Gakpo won that
I'm starting to like the idea of signing Gakpo the more I look at it, the problem I see here is that we're limiting ourselves here by chosing our targets from a really small circle. This would be like Pep going to City and mainly targeting players who were developed in La Masia, it would be ridiculous when there's amazing talents all around the world.
If we're realistic, for any great player coming from the dutch league there's been around 10 duds. Basing our new brand project on the Eredivisie after a decade of failures is probably more related with those failures (basically no one at the wheel in this club) than it being some radical inflexion point or a stroke of genius.
If this is only the case in his first season for some particular reason it could be fine. If our plan from now onwards is mainly based on ten Hag's phone book then we're in trouble here. Something has to change in the coming windows.
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Not feeling this move at all, sorry. This transfer is irresponsible. I love ETH but his little shortlist is absolute madness. And I don't see the same talent you see. Gakpo is a good player for Eredivisie standards, but he won't last in the BPL. Best case scenario he will have to adjust for 2-3 years, which is time we don't have. This move is so fecking desperate.
I'm also a bit angry that we have to spend 2,5 months waiting for FDJ, putting "all the money" aside for him, and now suddenly we can buy the entire Eredivisie. When we have been begging for a right back, another midfielder besides Casemiro, a keeper and a RW, we get another Rashford.
Looks nothing like Amad. Gakpo is over 6 foot and quite fast. Physically there is a big difference.
You guys are right, I thought Timber won it, but he was only nominated. Still feel he should've won it though, but Gakpo did indeed.
I think he won't make it in the PL as a winger. I could see him as a striker.
That's interesting. So it's obviously not his main position but not something unknown for him either.
He has played 7 games as a striker in his career and he is 23. He has played the rest of the games as a LF/LW. If he can’t make it as a winger what makes you think he is going to make it as a striker?
"Only way to not buy bad players is to stop buying players" - Nietzsche.
He has made it as a winger though. The question is whether he can make it as a striker. The amount of games he has played as a striker would be irrelevant in whether or not I 'think he is going to make it as a striker' - because that is the point, it is a projection. You don't speculate as to whether a player can make it as a striker after they have already played 200 games as a striker. You simply look back and see at that point.
Not that enthusiastic about this player. From the way he plays he seems like a Rashford-Lite. PSV also play a more counter attacking style rather than the possession based EtH style. So feels like a signing that would have been useful under Ole, but under EtH I don't see it. I would see the same issues that we are having with Rashford happening with this guy i.e. struggling when there is not a lot of space, needing space to run into, not the best at playing the tight intricate football that is required under EtH.
This is my kind of muppetting.What similarities do you see?
I still get Dutch league PTSD from Afonso Alves and he didn’t even play for us.
The thing is, Alves had one season where he had that kind of output and nothing about his pedigree that suggested it was sustainable.
Never seen him play, at least not knowingly.
Maybe looks like was the wrong choice of words. I have no idea about either of them beyond YouTube clips, I barely even know what Amad does and he’s played for us for 2 years. I meant more in terms of the type of deal this is. Do we really need another raw youngster that we’re going to loan out for a few years before we see any benefit? If he’s good enough to go into the team now then fair enough, but if we’re short on cash we should be focusing it on someone for this season.
Gakpo is 23.
Do you think he’d come in and improve us right away?
No, I don't. Although anyone on the left would be an improvement on what Rashford is giving us right now. If we were going to sign him, I'd want us to try and develop him as a centre forward. Either way, he's not an 18/19 year old kid that we would be shipping out on loan.
So why are we signing him then? If he isn’t good enough for now, are we hoping that he’s one for the future? Because I just come back to my point about Amad. Or are we just padding out the squad?
I think he is probably better than current Rashford but would hope we could develop him into a striker
Go back to sleep then.
He’s absolutely nothing like Amad.
To be honest mate, no idea. I can see a potentially good striker in him, but that's pie in the sky stuff really as he's played 90% of his games on the left. He's definitely going to get plenty of games for us right now, but I think our priority should be a right sided attacker. Unless of course he will transition to striker and compete with Martial should Ronaldo leave. Alternatively, Rashford could depart in the next year and Gakpo could be seen as his successor. In my opinion he looks like a striker playing out wide and centre forward is where he has more of a chance of making it here, but possibly only as a second choice.
Maybe we are converting him to a striker then, we haven’t really been linked with any centre forwards yet we’re apparently after Gakpo and Anthony.
It doesn’t make sense going for one or the other though.
Antony plays right wing. Gakpo plays from the left. Neither have played much on the opposite side or been as effective.
Getting Gakpo alone wouldn’t make sense as we clearly have a problem with Sancho on the right. He’s struggling to work on that side like most of the options we’ve tried in recent years. If Sancho is our best option from the right then that’s worrying for the season. He wants to play one twos and come inside which is all done best from the left wing.
I genuinely believe ETH has a concern over our whole front line. I’m not sure he’s comfortable with Sancho and Rashford as our number options from the positions they are currently in.
Going for both actually sounds legitimate.
Hopefully we sign them both and they will do well. If that's the case Rashy would able to finally join the charity of his choice
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