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That makes no sense. We don't even have the highest revenue anymore, and FFP exists to prevent any club from being financially uncatchable. The only way around that is to cheat the system like City. And then Newcastle would blow everyone out the water. Where are all the protests against city and Newcastle from the rest of the PL clubs? Or is it only United that deserve to be vilified?
 
That makes no sense. We don't even have the highest revenue anymore, and FFP exists to prevent any club from being financially uncatchable. The only way around that is to cheat the system like City. And then Newcastle would blow everyone out the water. Where are all the protests against city and Newcastle from the rest of the PL clubs? Or is it only United that deserve to be vilified?

Both Newcastle and City are owned by richer sovereign funds then the one owned by Qatar. Surely Delaney's boss can tell him that
 
That makes no sense. We don't even have the highest revenue anymore, and FFP exists to prevent any club from being financially uncatchable. The only way around that is to cheat the system like City. And then Newcastle would blow everyone out the water. Where are all the protests against city and Newcastle from the rest of the PL clubs? Or is it only United that deserve to be vilified?
Imagine if the Premier League block our takeover
 
How many funds will be available due to FFP regulation when the take ove happen?
I dont think it will be some unlimited funds like some imagine.
 
That makes no sense. We don't even have the highest revenue anymore, and FFP exists to prevent any club from being financially uncatchable. The only way around that is to cheat the system like City. And then Newcastle would blow everyone out the water. Where are all the protests against city and Newcastle from the rest of the PL clubs? Or is it only United that deserve to be vilified?

United with success on the pitch got the highest revenue in football. Without success on the pitch we got top 5 highest revenue. Go figure.
 
That makes no sense. We don't even have the highest revenue anymore, and FFP exists to prevent any club from being financially uncatchable. The only way around that is to cheat the system like City. And then Newcastle would blow everyone out the water. Where are all the protests against city and Newcastle from the rest of the PL clubs? Or is it only United that deserve to be vilified?
They’ve only caught up because our major deals are about 10 years out of date. When they’re renewed we’ll streak out in front again, especially with CL football.
Not to mention deals such as Stadium naming rights etc that’ll prop us up even further that we don’t have now. It’ll all add up
 
Imagine if the Premier League block our takeover
They don't have the jurisdiction to do so, they can make tighter FFP regulations around spending but they can't stop people buying clubs because of their bank balance otherwise they'll have to call up City and Newcastle and tell them they've got 30 days to sell up.

Also, the other PL clubs can go and feck themselves. They've loved this period of shiteness from us and they want it to continue indefinitely.
 
How many funds will be available due to FFP regulation when the take ove happen?
I dont think it will be some unlimited funds like some imagine.
What does uncompetitive owners even look like? How can we have uncompetitive owners in a league where Chelsea spend over 600m on transfers alone in 8 months with them ready to go again in the summer? A league where City have state funds and are expected to win their 5th title in 6 years with one of the best managers of all time at the helm having signed Haaland with Bellingham next? It’s bullshit Miguel has plucked from imaginary sources.
 
What does uncompetitive owners even look like? How can we have uncompetitive owners in a league where Chelsea spend over 600m on transfers alone in 8 months with them ready to go again in the summer? A league where City have state funds and are expected to win their 5th title in 6 years with one of the best managers of all time at the helm having signed Haaland with Bellingham next? It’s bullshit Miguel has plucked from imaginary sources.
You quoted the wrong post?
 
You quoted the wrong post?
No. You said we won’t have unlimited funds. I’m asking what that even looks like in a league with clubs spending 600m in 8 months. How much more unlimited is unlimited? The scale of Chelsea’s spending still doesn’t seem to have registered with the media. I’m also convinced it will now allow City who have been restrained by their standards the last few years to go crazy this summer.
 
Delaney is proper spooked isn't he, double standards all over the place, and a very obvious anyone but United bias, I don't think it's going to end well for him in the respect that he's probably going to be banned from Utd if as seems likely Jassim is the new owner.
 
No. You said we won’t have unlimited funds. I’m asking what that even looks like in a league with clubs spending 600m in 8 months. How much more unlimited is unlimited? The scale of Chelsea’s spending still doesn’t seem to have registered with the media. I’m also convinced it will now allow City who have been restrained by their standards the last few years to go crazy this summer.
I must admit I dont know how Chelsea can spend that much. They sold a lot of players thus getting lots of contracts of the books?
As for City it seems they cooked the books regarding revenue so could afford the spending in that way.
 
I'm not overly thrilled about the prospect of Qatari owners but the point Delaney makes is the potential opening of a massive can of worms. So because, debatably, we would end up becoming 'uncatchable' financially there would be far more of a reaction from the Premier League to potential new ownership from them than there has been for the Newcastle take over (where they were more or less invited in) and from other takeover groups?

I find that fanciful and if it is true it reeks of huge double standards. As others have said, the horse has already bolted in that sense.
 
Well. Looks like Jim is already briefing the media and finding an exit route.

All signs point to Qatar, but little is known about the potential "8 bids" that could go in on Wednesday. Thats even if they are full bids to takeover the club or if the number of bidders is accurate!

 
I'm not sold on the Qatari bid yet, but this annoys me. We've had to compete against teams propped up by petro money for decades, yet now it's not good for the game? Bollocks.
I think it's just Delaney using his moment to get more clicks. You can resist as much as you want, UK gov would clearly welcome more investment from Qatar and I don't know how the PL clubs would have any legal grounds to resist. I expect to be a big storm in the media though (Delaney seems to have already started his campaign weeks ago) because you know, football will REALLY be dead if Qatar buys us, conveniently ignoring the obvious fact that it has been this way for 2 decades now. Expect a lot more journalists to suddenly be very concerned about human rights too although we all know the real reason of that storm.
 
Manchester United sale: Eight bids could be made as Wednesday deadline looms



It was already reported there are 4 bidders for full takeover (Jassim, Ratcliffe, and two others) and at least 3 bidders for minority investment (Oaktree, Ares, Elliot). So, 8 sound about right. But I'm definitely not liking the line about the Glazers not selling, but it was always a possibility. It's the Glazer way or the highway in this sale. One thing is certain - this is far from being done, one way or another.
 
Well. Looks like Jim is already briefing the media and finding an exit route.

All signs point to Qatar, but little is known about the potential "8 bids" that could go in on Wednesday. Thats even if they are full bids to takeover the club or if the number of bidders is accurate!



At 6billion it was always a stupid price if you don't have a business case.
 
Well. Looks like Jim is already briefing the media and finding an exit route.

All signs point to Qatar, but little is known about the potential "8 bids" that could go in on Wednesday. Thats even if they are full bids to takeover the club or if the number of bidders is accurate!



The Qatar/Jassim bid through journalists said basically the same thing a few days ago.
 
PR isn't magic, it's an uphill battle when a lot of people here want Qatar. Notice that Al-Thani and Ratcliffe said basically the same thing about not wanting to pay stupid amounts, yet received the opposite reaction on here. From the very same users, in some instances. It's pretty fascinating.

Indeed.
 
It was already reported there are 4 bidders for full takeover (Jassim, Ratcliffe, and two others) and at least 3 bidders for minority investment (Oaktree, Ares, Elliot). So, 8 sound about right. But I'm definitely not liking the line about the Glazers not selling, but it was always a possibility. It's the Glazer way or the highway in this sale. One thing is certain - this is far from being done, one way or another.

I wonder who the two other full takeover bidders are?

We've come to the second bidding stage and I find it surprising that nobody even knows the identity of said bidders.

Unusual to say the least.
 
I think that both main bidders are terrified of ending in a scenario were they bid against themselves
 
I wonder who the two other full takeover bidders are?

We've come to the second bidding stage and I find it surprising that nobody even knows the identity of said bidders.

Unusual to say the least.
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Sir Jim said: ‘The decision to build in the UK is a significant expression of confidence in British manufacturing, which has always been at the heart of what Ineos stands for.’

Anyways, that thing is now built in France. I’m not saying this because I prefer Qatar bid which I do, but Ratcliff has a history of using the local, community, national emotional appeal to get support for whatever it is he wants. Then when a better alternative comes along he doesn’t care about the the community he gave hope of 2000 jobs to.
"using the emotional appeal"
Isn't that the exact reason you prefer the Qatari bid? To satiate your emotional desires?
 
The Qatar/Jassim bid through journalists said basically the same thing a few days ago.

There is a difference between Ratcliffe saying it directly to the journos and Jassim's PR company leaking things into the press.

Deniablity.

Also, I don't see Ratcliffe's purpose in doing this interview right after the very high-profile meeting last week. If anything Ratcliffe and his team should be busy getting down to crunching out numbers to make the deal work.
Besides the hi-vis meeting, it is odd that he brought his two other partners into the meeting last week -- it seems like he has to convenience them of the potential of the project.
At this stage of the process, when you need to give a first official firm bid, you need the domain knowledge folks (financial and legal) involved who can do the due diligence and analyse to eventually come out with a bid. Not the C-suite folks who aren't the number crunchers.

Thus the cynicism.
 
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