There are reportedly four buyers interested in a full sale - I'm sure the Glazers will play all four off against each other as much as they possibly can.
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There are reportedly four buyers interested in a full sale - I'm sure the Glazers will play all four off against each other as much as they possibly can.
Don't be silly. Qatar do.
Whether you want INEOS or not, if their bidding makes it more likely that the Glazers leave then I'm all over it
The way the Al Thani family have run Malaga doesn't give you the same feelings?
Suppose the only argument to your point is that the millions of fans that pay for subscriptions for channels like Sky Sports, just to watch United, contribute far more in terms of revenue than ticket sales.
It’s a debate that could never end because it is subjective, with no clear way to say yes or no either way. Surely the most logical thing is just to appreciate the fact that we all support the greatest team in the world, and save our ridicule for opposition fans.
Actually ineos team is stronger then qataris. I still cannot understand the cyclist role in buying a football club. Its like involving Mike tyson in cricket
Finally something we can all agree on. Glazers out.
No I dont mean me supporting the club, but when we say we are the biggest club, we have the biggest revenue. You don't get one without the other.
Fans are what makes Manutd the biggest club.
I agree, so when things are bad and the atmosphere is toxic, should we say local fans are more toxic than worldwide fans?
Do you think match going fans are the only ones who buy merchandise?
Ignorance is bliss.
The thing is i don't favour either just some or here are wilfully ignorant to downside of the Qatari bid and use all Ineos apparent failings against them bidding, for instance every person on here uses Nice as stick to beat Ineos with yet none use the same criticism of the way the Al Thani family have run Malaga which is 100% worse than the way Nice have been run.
Top Reds compete to say the stupidest things to show they are as dedicated as RAWK. I think it's an admirable sacrifice and I salute them.
Starting to hot up isnt it
We need this done asap
We need this done asap
I think people basically understand that we make so much money, that as long as the debt is cleared and owners aren't taking money out of the club, we'll have enormous funds available to spend on the team, and we might need external money for infrastructure spending. It's generally believed the Qataris are more likely to clear the debt, pay for infrastructure and less likely to take any profits out of the club
Very stupid world we live in.Asketh and ye shall receiveth
You wonder if across the UK, there is a belief that you should support your local club and go to games? You think it is only Man United fans who are known for suggesting local fans mean more?
errrrm….
Just when this thread started getting back on track, he came back 
Here we go again
Here we go againIt's just you said you celebrate b/c Manchester United are the biggest club and that seems like a pretty surface-level thing to highlight.
When the atmosphere is toxic you say can say that local fans are responsible for the toxic atmosphere on the ground, but if we are being completely honest you can go to Twitter or the Caf and witness an even greater level of vitriol.
Match-going fans aren't the only ones who buy merchandise, but I would argue per person they spend more on the club than a purely TV-watching fan.
Maybe the Qataris are further down the track. More due diligence and number crunching part of the process.
The INEOS guys maybe need all the top bosses there to get 100% buy-in within the top brass? Not all are convinced.
Imo. Phase 2 would be getting the number crunchers to kick the tires and see what it's actually worth? Then come back with a firm offer after getting all the information and then analyse and crunch.big bosses can come in I.
The final phase -- when negotiating the final details then you involved the big boss who can sign off on any final decisions.
Don't know much about Ineos, what % of the company does Jim Ratcliffe own?
Your post is ignorant of the one you are replying to. Like he said, nobody is considering the ramifications or impacts of Qatari state owners because money money money. Some are wilfully ignoring such issues.
Be we sold yet?
2/3
Having said that all co owners seems involved which means that it's more of a business venture thing
No he said why aren't the qataris failings at Malaga being viewed the same as Ratcliffe as Nice, nothing to do with state owners. As a club we're a very different prospect from either of those clubs, and what we really need is the debt cleared, and infrastructure spending, the qataris appear to be more promising on that front than Ratcliffe, that's the reason
My guess is they are salivating at the potential of mouth-watering transfer funds and just don't want to admit it. At least that's the impression I'm getting.
This is exactly it
No.
Don't think their quoted anywhere, who owns the other third? Can't imagine their happy with their pursuit of United, far better places to make a return on that level of investment.
I have posted about ten examples on this thread of posters hating Qatar and suggesting how evil they are up until the point they offered to buy us. That is exactly what happened.
Yes, like you said, was not worded right.
Oh so when we are in a bad spell, twitter / caf can be blamed but when the atmosphere is good, only match day going fans are good? Not all the twitter / caf fans who are positive and people in Australia in pubs with chants at 4am.
You can argue that but you dont know how much each person abroad spends on TV subscriptions to watch games. Just quick research in the UK, Sky sports is £25 a month and BT sports is £28 a month. Totals to £638 a year on those. A Manutd season ticket is average say £700? The reason TV revenue is so high is because there is demand, without it, the club wont be where it is.
But why aren't they being viewed the same what if they run us the same way, everyone thinks new owners is going to be some kind of pancea to all our woes as a football club when in reality it might not be, just some critical thinking before crowning anyone the answer to all our prayers and dismissing someone out of hand, I mean in this same thread people have called SJR a fraud I mean he is the UK's richest man and probably does have red flags in some ways but a fraud nah not for me.
His mates Andy and John, who will be along for the visit to the club tomorrow.
Cant wait for this to be done. I know its been months but it feels like an eternity. Just finish the deal Qatar ffs.
Even if accepted any time soon, the bid would have to go through approval elsewhere such as the government and PL
I am happy to be educated, that's why I asked the question. Please expand a bit, it's been a bit of a pointless reply so far.
Yeah, although maybe there is some merit in knowing your own limitations and employing experts to do a job. I mean if I want a new boiler I might know which boiler I want, but I'd pay a suitably qualified plumber to fit it. I've come round to the bankers now, feeling a bit better about them
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They have a strange business model. Lots of JV with multiple companies using the INEOS like some franchising platform.
In that case, let me introduce you to JP Morgan, their buddies at Apollo Global Management, and these 20% PIK notes that are just the right thing for you and your beloved football clubYeah, although maybe there is some merit in knowing your own limitations and employing experts to do a job. I mean if I want a new boiler I might know which boiler I want, but I'd pay a suitably qualified plumber to fit it. I've come round to the bankers now, feeling a bit better about them
Asketh and ye shall receiveth
That’s probably just stock transfer footage. They went on Getty and searched ‘Van arrives at Carrington’. I swear I can see Morgan Schneiderlin through the glass….
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