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So Qatar are allowed to own one of the most iconic buildings in the capital, the most famous British department store, be the biggest shareholder in the biggest airport, etc etc, but a line needs to be drawn when it comes to a football club; especially with another 2 football clubs owned by other ME states.

Ok then...
Can someone check the Shard, Harrods and Heathrow fan forums to find out how they felt about it…
 
So Qatar are allowed to own one of the most iconic buildings in the capital, the most famous British department store, be the biggest shareholder in the biggest airport, etc etc, but a line needs to be drawn when it comes to a football club; especially with another 2 football clubs owned by other ME states.

Ok then...
We're not the UK government. Who cares about others. We're Man United.
 
So Qatar are allowed to own one of the most iconic buildings in the capital, the most famous British department store, be the biggest shareholder in the biggest airport, etc etc, but a line needs to be drawn when it comes to a football club; especially with another 2 football clubs owned by other ME states.

Ok then...
Football is always an easy target for sanctimony because it’s not essential. As if money spent on United shirt goes directly to funding human rights abuse, while money spent on essentials goes to the Qatari Orphans and Puppies fund.
 
Can someone check the Shard and Heathrow fan forums to find out how they felt about it…
So it’s not really about objecting to human rights violations, because the money would go to the same people.
 
Can someone check the Shard, Harrods and Heathrow fan forums to find out how they felt about it…

The employees probably made a big song and dance about it, then carried on picking up their pay checks, so they should fit in perfectly round here.
 
Can someone check the Shard, Harrods and Heathrow fan forums to find out how they felt about it…
I'm not arguing what sections of fans think about it, everyone is entitled to their own view. Just that the UK government are going to stop this takeover.

We're not the UK government. Who cares about others. We're Man United.
Agreed

Football is always an easy target for sanctimony because it’s not essential. As if money spent on United shirt goes directly to funding human rights abuse, while money spent on essentials goes to the Qatari Orphans and Puppies fund.
Very true :lol:
 
I think unfurling a banner and it ends up being that is worth ridicule.

Yeah, if it happened in a Blackadder sketch.

We all know what this is about, though.

The amount of people who genuinely reacted to it as they would a Blackadder sketch is...my estimate would be around zero.
 
I was stood right behind that flag at the game. It was one of those reversible ones that said “Please can I have your shirt and shorts, McSauce?”.

Takes all sorts.
 
I also get the feeling that Jassim’s father saying he’s not a football fan and doesn’t think it’s a worthwhile investment is some downplaying tactic to disguise a state bid and make it seem more like one guy‘s legit dream investment that he’s doing off his own back.

So I sense some more PR spin to come in the following weeks, especially from the Mail and Mike Keegan who they seem to have enlisted. The parent company of the Mail, DMGT, is based in Kensington, which isn’t that far away from the Qatari stronghold of Harrods and also the new United offices are set to be based in Kensington (moving from Mayfair).

Could be complete coincidence but may be something to wonder about further down the line.

More of a negotiating tactic than anything.

You don't give you son 5B if you're not interested in football :lol:
 
So it’s not really about objecting to human rights violations, because the money would go to the same people.

I’ve been to The Shard once in my life. Thought it was a waste of money and time. I’ve been to Old Trafford more times than I’d care to try and remember and spent an unfathomable amount of hours watching, discussing, supporting United. Is the consensus that I should feel equally passionate about who owns The Shard and United?
 
Yeah, if it happened in a Blackadder sketch.

We all know what this is about, though.

The amount of people who genuinely reacted to it as they would a Blackadder sketch is...my estimate would be around zero.
I’m not sure anyone has really reacted to it at all to be honest. It’s ok to call out the half assed nature of it
 
So Qatar are allowed to own one of the most iconic buildings in the capital, the most famous British department store, be the biggest shareholder in the biggest airport, etc etc, but a line needs to be drawn when it comes to a football club; especially with another 2 football clubs owned by other ME states.

Ok then...
Harrods is just a business.

The Shart is just property.

A football club is a community asset. It’s an identity for millions. It’s history and tradition. It’s not something that should be for private individuals to trade, profit from and use to their own ends. It’s not just an asset on a balance sheet, it has intangible qualities that mean more than simple finance.

Football clubs are special and should be protected.
 
A football club is a community asset. It’s an identity for millions. It’s history and tradition. It’s not something that should be for private individuals to trade, profit from and use to their own ends. It’s not just an asset on a balance sheet, it has intangible qualities that mean more than simple finance.

Football clubs are special and should be protected.

I agree with the sentiment but don't you think we're long past that point now?
 
No it’s not. It’s a childish pathetic reaction to somebody raising an important concern.
No it’s not. I can do this too.
Pointing out how pathetic it looked isn’t downplaying abuses in fecking Qatar.
Would you not say protesting the abuses in Qatar would warrant a bit more effort than a Biro and an A4?
 
No it’s not. I can do this too.
Pointing out how pathetic it looked isn’t downplaying abuses in fecking Qatar.
Would you not say protesting the abuses in Qatar would warrant a bit more effort than a Biro and an A4?
It’s clearly more than ‘a biro and some A4’, a choice of words to again mock and belittle those holding it.
So these guys and their bedsheet are pathetic looking too?
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It’s clearly more than ‘a biro and some A4’, a choice of words to again mock and belittle those holding it.
So these guys and their bedsheet are pathetic looking too?
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No, but they’re not an organisation as Amnesty international nor did they notify the press that they were going to unfurl a fecking banner.
They’re also fans of the club by the way, not an outside force trying to represent fans at a game.
It’s so bad you’re comparing it to Dave the brickies effort here, that should tell you something.
Im not downplaying the need to get the anti Qatar voices heard but it’s worth a bit effort than the abysmal, token protest we saw on Sunday and there’s no harm in calling that out.
 
I’ve been to The Shard once in my life. Thought it was a waste of money and time. I’ve been to Old Trafford more times than I’d care to try and remember and spent an unfathomable amount of hours watching, discussing, supporting United. Is the consensus that I should feel equally passionate about who owns The Shard and United?
What do human rights violations have to do with your personal preferences? Again, if the money goes to the same place and the same human rights violators, the fact that you're more passionate about United than a building means absolutely nothing. My issue is with people talking down to other posters for wanting Qatar to buy United, or accept that it's out of our control and will continue to support the club the same way they did under previous owners.
 
Harrods is just a business.

The Shart is just property.

A football club is a community asset. It’s an identity for millions. It’s history and tradition. It’s not something that should be for private individuals to trade, profit from and use to their own ends. It’s not just an asset on a balance sheet, it has intangible qualities that mean more than simple finance.

Football clubs are special and should be protected.
If the issue you have is with supporting a state that has committed human rights violations, what difference does it make what the money making endeavor is?
 
No, but they’re not an organisation as Amnesty international nor did they notify the press that they were going to unfurl a fecking banner.
They’re also fans of the club by the way, not an outside force trying to represent fans at a game.
It’s so bad you’re comparing it to Dave the brickies effort here, that should tell you something.
Im not downplaying the need to get the anti Qatar voices heard but it’s worth a bit effort than the abysmal, token protest we saw on Sunday and there’s no harm in calling that out.
Who is holding the banner and what it looks like is irrelevant. What is important is the message and issues it raises.
FYI the people with the banner were fans too, they just happen to be Amnesty members too. I suggest you read the press release you are mocking so you understand what it’s about.
Manchester United’s charter says suppliers must not use forced labour and must practice ‘universal respect for human rights and freedoms for all, without discrimination of age, disability, gender or sexual orientation’ - how is this compatible with Qatari ownership?

“Our city has much to be proud of in the struggle for human rights - giving birth to the labour movement, trade unions and women’s suffrage - so allowing our great clubs to be used for sportswashing seems like a shoddy betrayal of this proud heritage.
 
So if the money is coming from Harrod's, does that make the human rights violations more palatable for you?
Were you as excited when they took over Harrod's as you are about them taking over United? I imagine you must have been if you think the active decision to support a football club and the emotional attachment to it makes no difference to how we should feel about this takeover.
 
What do human rights violations have to do with your personal preferences? Again, if the money goes to the same place and the same human rights violators, the fact that you're more passionate about United than a building means absolutely nothing. My issue is with people talking down to other posters for wanting Qatar to buy United, or accept that it's out of our control and will continue to support the club the same way they did under previous owners.

I can answer, it's called hypocrisy

It isn’t hypocrisy for a United fan to speak out against Qatari ownership of United now they are for sale, but not about the shard. I have no clue when the shard was sold, I’m not an expert or supporter of the shard or Harrods.

If I was asked for my opinion at the time of sale on whether foreign investment from states committing human rights abuses was a good thing, I’d have told you no. Maybe economists would see it as a positive, all I see is gentrification and price increases. So yes, human rights abuse and the subsequent investment of that profit into the UK = bad in my eyes. Sorry, not the boom moment you were hoping for.
 
More of a negotiating tactic than anything.

You don't give you son 5B if you're not interested in football :lol:

Shad Khan hates pro wrestling but gave his son hundreds of millions of dollars to start AEW. It’s like when you’re disappointed that your kid wants to get in to cycling instead of football but you buy him an expensive bike anyway cause you love him and want to support him. Hard for any of us to say “you don’t just give billions to your heir” unless you actually have those billions. You don’t know unless you’re one of them. Maybe he loves football, maybe he hates it. I don’t know the guy personally so I’ll sit on the fence with it, but it’s not implausible that someone with essentially unlimited wealth, would give his son 5bn of it to buy a football club. The billionaire class live in a different world to the rest of us.
 
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