Again, I'll reference the Chris Rock Outrage film for this thread. Quite apt really.
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Yeah. We'll see more of this in the coming weeks, I predict.
Amnesty being portrayed as random "activists" in the nutter category and the like.
Sad to see, but utterly predictable.
If you are from the United Kingdom there is nothing strange about it, this is just an extended arm of the policies within our country, but that's a new thread in itself.
I don’t think anyone is laughing at them for protesting, more the initial teeing it up that they would be “unfurling a banner” which conjures an image of something fairly large not a piece of A2 paper the likes of which is usually used by kids asking their favourite player for their shirt.
Can we like fix the toilets first?
That`s not too bad, it is only a bit of piss.
It was a puny banner, alright.
But make no mistake about it, people are indeed belittling the effort itself (too). And, to be clear, that would mean that they belittle/ridicule Amnesty's concerns about United being purchased by Qatar. Not random "activist" protesters, but Amnesty.
Again, to be clear about this.
I’d argue speaking for United fans is a bit much though? Let United fans take that step
Well that’s hardly the protestors fault, it’s a bbc report. I doubt security would let in a giant banner covering a block of seats. There is basically a full page of posters mocking the protest, one even saying “down with this sort of thing”, which I can only assume is regarding the protesting of Qatari owners.
Probably would have made more sense sitting in the north stand though if they wanted it to get on tv.
Selective outrage is rampant in this thread.
I mean the “down with this sort of thing” comment seems another clear example of mocking the size of the sign, given the origin of that meme.
And people think Glazers will stay.
To be fair that last line is simply made up
A page of people laughing at the napkin protest, followed by a page of people decrying them for doing so. I love this thread Someone post the pissy twitter post again!
Someone post the pissy twitter post again!Oh fair. Haven’t watched that show so didn’t have a clue about that meme, hold my hands up on that.
I’d be surprised if any of the posters “mocking the size of the sign” also support the general gist of the protest, I would imagine they are all pro Qatar taking over. You only have to click on the tweet to see half the people replying have Qatar flags in their names.
Agreed. However, the overall sentiment of the club will lose value if they stay is true.
Also, with the way some of these banks have folded, taking on billions of debt will be suicidal.
The hypocrisy of some United fans on this issue has been quite something to behold. Not directed at you specifically, but some on this forum have even admitted, with no sense of shame, to just a matter of months ago being ardent critics of the ownership models at City/PSG and the World Cup in Qatar, only to abandon their morals at the mere hint of a Qatari takeover of United.
I don't think United fans can really be relied upon to be objective here - human rights organisations that want to raise concerns or even block this potential takeover will undoubtedly take matters in to their own hands and I expect the noise around this issue to grow far greater, if the Glazers move in to due diligence with the Qataris in the weeks ahead. When deciding whether or not to allow a prospective Qatari takeover to pass, the relevant football authorities must consider what is best for football rather than what best furthers the narrow economic interests of Manchester United. It is to those authorities that the groups hoping to scupper this deal, will ultimately be appealing.
The decision about whether this type of takeover will be allowed to pass was taken decades ago. “Football” has already made its choice - a World Cup was quite literally hosted in Qatar mere months ago. You either throw all state linked clubs out and block this deal or you allow it - you can’t block this one in isolation.
Anyone watch Grayson Perry's Full English series, on Channel 4? Just watching episode 2...
"For an English person, that kind of reserve, and the kind of hypocrisy, are quite woven in to being English. We're very good at being hypocritical!"
His words, not mine.
"For an English person, that kind of reserve, and the kind of hypocrisy, are quite woven in to being English. We're very good at being hypocritical!"
His words, not mine.
FIY all outrage is selective. It's a meaningless term.
I'm against state ownership Qatari or otherwise but I don't see how they could block it on those grounds when 2 PL clubs are already owned by Gulf states.
If only there was a vomit Emoji on here.
Yep. And especially as the UK government receives so much investment from Qatar.
Buying Manchester United is beyond just sport at this moment in time.
100%. I almost posted as I was watching it live.
I would hope so seeing as the UK government had a big hand in founding the state and handing control to the biggest tribe. The least they can do is invest.
It means something when it's followed by demands others share in the outrage and a condemnation when they dont
By all means, I hope they (ordinary fans at OT) do.
It says something, though - does it not - that:
a) Amnesty protests against Qatari ownership at Old Trafford
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b) United fans on here ridicule it
No?
It's meaningless in any context. Not one person in the history of the world has been outraged at every single injustice in the world. So everyone is selectively outraged at what they're aware of and/or what's important to them
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Once Qatar finally buys us, the best part will be seeing this thread with a padlock on it.
Very enlightening thank you but that's beside the point I was making.
Any larger and it would've been confiscated. It achieved its purpose by making headlines.
And the worst part will be seeing the club associated with state ownership.
Quite so. From their perspective, this is pretty straight forward: Qatar buying Manchester United (one of the most popular and iconic football clubs in the world, supported or followed - in one way or another - by hundreds of millions of people) is a huge win for a country they have too many issues with to be mentioned here.
It's obvious why Amnesty wouldn't be happy with the idea.
Of course, appealing to the football authorities (or the UK government) is arguably even more pointless than targeting United's owners, so there's that.
But whatever - people ridiculing the effort are twats.
The quiet before the storm?
It has been quiet, hasn't it? I just hope Jassim (or whoever it is) has flown into the UK and takeover talks have started.
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Yes I think there is a perfect storm brewing.
I’d imagine news cycle will kick off tonight or tomorrow morning.
I also get the feeling that Jassim’s father saying he’s not a football fan and doesn’t think it’s a worthwhile investment is some downplaying tactic to disguise a state bid and make it seem more like one guy‘s legit dream investment that he’s doing off his own back.
So I sense some more PR spin to come in the following weeks, especially from the Mail and Mike Keegan who they seem to have enlisted. The parent company of the Mail, DMGT, is based in Kensington, which isn’t that far away from the Qatari stronghold of Harrods and also the new United offices are set to be based in Kensington (moving from Mayfair).
Could be complete coincidence but may be something to wonder about further down the line.
So I sense some more PR spin to come in the following weeks, especially from the Mail and Mike Keegan who they seem to have enlisted. The parent company of the Mail, DMGT, is based in Kensington, which isn’t that far away from the Qatari stronghold of Harrods and also the new United offices are set to be based in Kensington (moving from Mayfair).
Could be complete coincidence but may be something to wonder about further down the line.
I think unfurling a banner and it ends up being that is worth ridicule. They’ve obviously notified the press since news came out hours before and that was it.
If anything it backs the Qatar bid because the protest gesture just looks so pathetic that it looks as if United fans simply aren’t bothered about it.
So Qatar are allowed to own one of the most iconic buildings in the capital, the most famous British department store, be the biggest shareholder in the biggest airport, etc etc, but a line needs to be drawn when it comes to a football club; especially with another 2 football clubs owned by other ME states.
Ok then...
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