What atrocities have the Glazers done that can be put on the same level as the Qatari ruling family?
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First sentence I agree with. Second one though... Would be true if DoFs were unsackable. But that's not true.
And my point is that current management (Arnold and Murtough, supporting Ten Hag) are, so far, doing a good job.
Glazers have backed them too. If they or SJR can continue backing them, great. If not, would still rather we don't have the resources to compete, than sell the club to one of the heads of a dictatorship monster.
Yes, and with zero evidence to substantiate it beyond the usual presumption it must be true.
DoFs can be sacked, but then you replace him with another DoF to make the football decisions and oversee the football side of the club. It's actually a simple process which has been complicated at the club.
Yes, they can be sacked and replaced if the structure was made to have a DoF role. And ours didn't. Until now.
That's correct.
Give your head a wobble
The Raine group come out and warn the bidders not to talk because they signed NDA’s and you’re all losing your shit over nothing because it’s quiet 
Makes absolutely zero sense for them to stay. The club is in a very poor position financially, borderline insolvent. They can’t buy their siblings out with a loan because they can’t afford to and nobody will take minority ownership because that does nothing for the value while they are still there.
Relax people, this will get done.
Makes absolutely zero sense for them to stay. The club is in a very poor position financially, borderline insolvent. They can’t buy their siblings out with a loan because they can’t afford to and nobody will take minority ownership because that does nothing for the value while they are still there.
Relax people, this will get done.
Yeah he signed before they even bought the club though I wouldn't look to much into him praising them though. His son is in United's Academy and he might have ambitions to manage United one day. So he won't be saying anything controversial about them.
"See?? They do care after all." Relationship more toxic than Greenwood+ his missusJust because the Glazers will be at the game you lot are convinced they aren't selling?
I think we are generally in agreement with the only difference being on whether Glazers are the worst option or not (I prefer them over Qatar/Saudi owners).
You should've told me that at the start. Would've saved us both a lot of time.
People are anxious and rightly so, we've had to endure the Glazers for what feels like a lifetime. But you're right - the issue is, no-one has patience. A multi billion pound deal doesn't happen in a few days. And the media are covering every single angle when it comes to possibilities of what might happen. RedCafe is one of the most negative, paranoid fan forums on the internet. Bad news is always true. Good news is always "media boll**ks". In reality, no-one except for people very close to the Glazers know the actual facts right now.The Raine group come out and warn the bidders not to talk because they signed NDA’s and you’re all losing your shit over nothing because it’s quiet
Makes absolutely zero sense for them to stay. The club is in a very poor position financially, borderline insolvent. They can’t buy their siblings out with a loan because they can’t afford to and nobody will take minority ownership because that does nothing for the value while they are still there.
Relax people, this will get done.
Sure, the Glazers might not sell. But it's highly unlikely when you've got a guy in Qatar offering you £5 billion in cash. If everyone puts themselves in the Glazers' shoes - just think about it logically for a minute. Would you really, honestly keep a football club you don't really care about, which is haemorrhaging money, where the entire fanbase hates you, where you know you'll get more protests, more negative media coverage, more abuse. And for what? A few million quid in dividends every year?
They'll sell. Who they'll sell to is anyone's guess. But they will sell.
Biggest line for me in the Athletic story is 'Meanwhile, a bidding war has not materialised'. Doesn't Ineos vs Qatar count as one, as both seem desperate to want it. Also didn't Bloomberg suggest there was multiple bidders.
They both seem desperate not to overpay, imo. Hence the PR.
Maybe they thought saudis would show interest, but not materialised. You dont really expect American bids to go up against a Quatar who really want the club
People are treating it like a transfer deal.
None.
Exactly however are the other 4 siblings going to take the higher bid on their shares from Qatari thus forcing the other two brothers to sell all be it reluctantly
Exactly what I've been thinking.
The parasites shat their pants when Liverpool announced they are looking for a sale so they thought of selling united too. Now that Liverpool owners couldn’t/don’t want to sell, the leeches are doing the same.
They remind me of brainless cnuts who have no mind of their own and follow what other people do because deep down they know they are clueless and don’t want to be left behind.
They remind me of brainless cnuts who have no mind of their own and follow what other people do because deep down they know they are clueless and don’t want to be left behind.
I think the concern comes from the reports about Joel and Avram trying to find a solution outside of a full sale. I personally think we will be sold simply because the finances aren’t going to work for them to stay. The fact they are trying is what concerns people.The Raine group come out and warn the bidders not to talk because they signed NDA’s and you’re all losing your shit over nothing because it’s quiet
Makes absolutely zero sense for them to stay. The club is in a very poor position financially, borderline insolvent. They can’t buy their siblings out with a loan because they can’t afford to and nobody will take minority ownership because that does nothing for the value while they are still there.
Relax people, this will get done.
It is a bit weird for Avram to be attending the final considering he’s only ever attended a handful of games. Weird timing at a time when they are supposedly flogging the club.
Imagine turning up for a final because you are so "emotionally invested" into the club. But you don't turn up for the memorial. Abominable, putrid individual.
I get that but I’m trying to be practical in the face of such hysteria, we as fans just need to wait and see it’s not clear cut either way, however the new English Government law might be a warning to the other 4 siblings that type of level of debt won’t be accepted in the UK going forward plus I happen to feel that most of this is trying to force the Qataris to come up with a ridiculous bid of £5.5/6bn or $6.6/7.4bn
Plus if a hedge fund offers $2.3bn to the other two Glaziers, the interest payments alone will put us into administration within 12 months. Let’s all just hope and pray the Glazier parasites finally for once Do the right thing.
How are they such (like the Al Thani family) fascist power then?
Yeah my grief was with you generalising the entirety of the Glazers ownership, when we both agree that since Arnold and Murtough are the management things have been done the right way (or so it seems).You should've told me that at the start. Would've saved us both a lot of time.
A perfect summaryThe Raine group come out and warn the bidders not to talk because they signed NDA’s and you’re all losing your shit over nothing because it’s quiet
Makes absolutely zero sense for them to stay. The club is in a very poor position financially, borderline insolvent. They can’t buy their siblings out with a loan because they can’t afford to and nobody will take minority ownership because that does nothing for the value while they are still there.
Relax people, this will get done.
I wish that people would stop peddling this myth. Have you spoke to the Glazers on a Skype call or something?
Liverpool's owners never said that they were selling. They never brought in a Raine (sp?) Group to handle a sale of Liverpool.
Fenway Sport's Group have only ever said that they were looking for investment, not a full sale.
This is actually not true, the value will go up regardless of them. And they only need to buy out one sibling, Avram.The Raine group come out and warn the bidders not to talk because they signed NDA’s and you’re all losing your shit over nothing because it’s quiet
Makes absolutely zero sense for them to stay. The club is in a very poor position financially, borderline insolvent. They can’t buy their siblings out with a loan because they can’t afford to and nobody will take minority ownership because that does nothing for the value while they are still there.
Relax people, this will get done.
So they claim to be emotionally invested. They really think anyone believes that crap?
And the stadium would still need renovation, alongside Carrington, etc.
The numbers for them to stay just don't add up. And everyone who laps up the media's stance on this is even funnier.
It will go up if they leave. Look at how much it spikes when positive news about a sale comes. The market hates them.
Pro Qatari - "Bought Maguire"
What if the potential buyers just buy out the other Glazers? How much would they have and how would that work in terms of control?
Could they not marginalise Avram and Joel?
Could they not marginalise Avram and Joel?
So you’d rather boo the owner than cheer for our first trophy in fecking ages. Weird. Time for that & it’s not when we’re winning silverware.
I used a metaphor of a fascist power occupying my community, to explain why I won’t abandon United wether they are ‘occupied’ by Glazers or Al Thani. Both are examples of someone taking (or potentially taking) power over United without me or anyone at or around the club having any say in it, and against my will and wishes. As such they are more akin to occupant powers than members of a community.
I wasn’t saying that either are fascistic, though I wouldn’t rule it out. And saying there are similarities is not saying they are at the same level. I wouldn’t want either Boris Johnson nor Josef Stalin as a leader of my neighborhood watch group, does not mean I’m putting them on the same level.
I misunderstood then. I still feel that the two are so different for many reasons that I couldn't put them on the same plane.
I'd rather we are stuck with Glazers forever, and get relegated to League Two, then become the sportswashing play-toy of a dictatorship regime.
And making any kind of equation between Glazers and the Qatari is just normalising them.
I have a hard time laughing when it comes to Qatar/Saudi Arabia ownership.
Glazers can buy Maguire 100 times and get the club relegated to League Two, and I'd still take them any day of the week, in comparison.
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