Hope he gets the welcome we want to see.
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Hope he gets the welcome we want to see.
"He has communicated his wish" 
love the grandiose verbiage these tweets use. He wants to go to the match, got it.
love the grandiose verbiage these tweets use. He wants to go to the match, got it.No, I agree. Was just parodying some view points. Poor form really as it's a serious topic.
People do genuinely think they're comparable though. As well as comparing with Jim Ratcliffe as part of their justification for supporting the Qataris all over social media. Quite bizarre.
If I woke up to £20m in my bank account every year you can bet your bottom dollar I’d be emotionally invested also.
Hope the fans give 100% of their support for the players on the pitch, the manager and the coaches. The Geordies will be absolutely rocking so United fans need to put all their energy into supporting the team rather than calling out that bellend.
Of course if they choose to voice their anger towards him, they paid their money so they can do as they please, it's just my opinion on this particular game.
Nah, feck off with this stupidity. Don't bother replying to me with dumb statements like that because I'll block you quicker than a Glazer dives for a quarter.
I thought you're just doing a typical Caps lock post and given the discussion over the last few pages...
They hired an investment group and there were two serious formal bids with considerable PR campaigns that's not testing the waters, that's the start of the transaction. You don't ask potential buyers to submit formal bids if you aren't serious.
Glazers are shrewd businessesmen they aren't flip flopping teenagers who would change their mind about selling a $5B dollar asset on the back of a couple of wins.
What if its another false dawn? We started winning games when Ole was in charge and Mourinho finished second. Logically we should have kicked on and started winning titles after that but football doesn't work that way.
They aren't going to gamble billions on the promise that ETH will make us a powerhouse again.
Regarding the Elliot group these hedge funds who would lend you money at exorbitant interest rates are dime a dozen. You don't really need to go through this process just to secure funding for stadium renovations.
Tbf. When you value the company at 5billion quid, 20million annually dividend isn't huge.
Hopefully the fans at the match spare some time to let him know what they think of him
You are using the metaphor the wrong eay. Try this: If you where shipwrecked on an island with Joel Glazer, Jassim al Thani and Halle Berry, and only two rescue aircrafts arrived, with two free seats each - would you then put them on the same plane?
Well, feck
Qatar just needs to come in with 6bn. I say "just".. 6 billion is a lot of dough.
I also find it really poor taste and lack of professionalism on part of The Athletic with their latest article about greenwashing environmental impact.
Their headline ("Sir Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS shouldn’t be allowed to buy Manchester United – Dale Vince") is about Ineos and Ratcliffe while the article is equal parts about Qatar, and considering their position as top global producer of LNG, and their oil reserves, it's just narrative building.
That's not to say that Ineos are a net positive on the environment. But they, most definitely, are the lesser evil.
A first quater sale is looking a bit optimistic now.
Hahaha, well, I'm sure miss Berry and I can find a lot of things to talk about on our way back to civilization.You are using the metaphor the wrong eay. Try this: If you where shipwrecked on an island with Joel Glazer, Jassim al Thani and Halle Berry, and only two rescue aircrafts arrived, with two free seats each - would you then put them on the same plane?
This is the bit people seem to not understand. They have absolutely no reason to sell if no one meets their valuation. And it is very unlikely anyone will, even Qatar. The Arabs walked away immediately when they felt FSG were being greedy. They will do the same here.
I doubt Sheikh Jassim or INEOS will significantly increase their bids.
The Glazers wanted an auction. That hasn't happened. Now they are doing everything to drive up the price.
However, there's actually very little incentive for Sheikh Jassim or INEOS to budge. They might slap a little sweetener on it e.g., offer the same money but for less of the Glazers' shares. Still, it doesn't seem like someone else is going to jump in and drive up the purchase price.
Both Sheikh Jassim and INEOS can just hold firm and say to the Glazers: 'Decide. Sell up now or it's over.'
I don’t understand why it’s been reported that the bids aren’t high enough. They aren’t really at that stage yet. Unless that’s happened since the soft deadline last Friday.
I thought they just had to submit some sort of proposal then get access to the detailed information after that they come to a number to bid. Until then no one has made an actual ‘bid’
I thought they just had to submit some sort of proposal then get access to the detailed information after that they come to a number to bid. Until then no one has made an actual ‘bid’
Not unexpected they were never going to sell for 4-4.5bil when they wanted 6 billion.
Hopefully Qatar and Jimmy Ratcliffe increase into the 5-5.5bil mark and it tempts them.
Yes they do, 4 of the siblings want to sell, and likely have wanted this for years, they have run the bank account dry, and there is a new stadium to pay for with no money to pay for it.
They love this 'relaxed' angle, but it's bollocks.
Full sale or investment, something has to happen pretty soon.
Well they did say the price would go up after seeing the financials after the soft deadline?
This also goes against the Athletic nonsense this morning about there not being other bidders.
Being a United football correspondent doesn’t make Laurie any kind of source for a multi billion takeover
They're losing roughly £2m a week at the moment. They have very low cash reserves. Are in debt for near enough £1b and they have a stadium and training ground to refurb.
You have to ask yourself, if they were in no rush to sell, why have they fone through the public process that they have?
Glazers aren't in a very strong financial point. However, they won't give away their asset. It is only the first stage of negotiations. Plenty more to go.
Too much noise coming out about that being reluctant to sell.
Meh I’ve got a terrible feeling about this.
Meh I’ve got a terrible feeling about this.
The Financial Times piece basically says the initial offers which were always indicative bids have come in and we’re going on to next stage with both types of bids - minority investments and sale - getting access to financials next week? So the process is going exactly how it was said it would - what am I missing?
It’s a negotiation.
Nothing. People are getting their knickers in a twist because they think it’s a transfer deal.
Seems a bit small time when regarding a multi billion dollar deal though doesn’t it
No, they do not. The only pressure to sell is coming from inside the Glazer family - Kevin, Darcie, Bryan, and Edward. Who will only sell if they are satisfied with the offer. Which they seemingly are not. So they have absolutely no reason to sell. They are not being pressured by financials. They do not need to build or renovate the infrastructure, and they have not run the bank account dry. Make the distinction between what fans want to be done and what the owners need to do. The club has enough money to trudge along for years.
The Glazers don’t have much other leverage. They aren’t exactly blessed with time.
This is the exact shit you say when you know bidders want to take over ahead of the upcoming window and drive the price up.
The club is borderline insolvent
This will rumble on through the entire summer.
Keegan said there would be 2-3 bidding rounds last week. We’re now approaching that next stage once bidders get access to the full books. It’s all going as it was outlined.
This is true. However, it also depends on the Glazers (not just Joel and Avram), taking a very different approach to running United.
In its current state it's hard to take cash out of the club. That can change relatively fast, with cost control measures imposed. However, the Glazers have never shown themselves to be patient investors. Will they wait a couple of seasons for the financial picture to improve, so they can start taking millions out again?
There's $4.5 billion on the table. Will they realise that value in the future? After a Football Regulator has come in and threatened to withhold event licences for anyone playing in competitions unsanctioned by UEFA and the FA?
The Glazers have shown, over the years they've owned United, they only want profit. They even took money out during the pandemic, when no other Premier League owners did. It would be a huge change for them to sacrifice, potentially, years of income to allow United to get back on an even keel. I imagine only Joel and Avram would even be open to that.
Mate they are not selling right now
Avram himself could come out after the League Cup final and announce they're staying and a few folks in here will say its a negotiation tactic...If this is what you believe based on all the financial info you have your just trolling at this point. This is just factually incorrect.
Of course they aren't going to take any of the initial offers. This is negotiating 101. It'll probably end up getting them another £1b.
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