If after all this the glazers stay there will be a full on riot.. can’t wait
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Some lads on here would have us plunged further into debt rather than take on ME owners, just so they can feel morally superior. They can feck off to be honest. I hope you don't show your faces here again when Qatar's bid is accepted.
Any group other than the Qatar bid winning would be a disaster
Careful, you'll get banned for saying that
I'm not necessarily completely against all American bids, even though their track record to this point owning football clubs has been a bit concerning. That being said, any hedge funds, especially this one which has already been involved in a disastrous takeover of Milan, would be terrible for us. Of the bids announced so far, only Qatar's offer sounds remotely acceptable
Exactly. I'm studying contract law right now and by not including anything in his offer advertised to the public other than nationalistic conjecture, he's being careful to not be held to any commitments. Big Red flag for me.
When the news broke back in august that the glazers were looking at selling minority stake Ineos released a statement saying they were open to any discussions around working toward majority ownership and funding the huge infrastructure spend required. Yes, they’ve dropped the PR ball so far. But there is zero doubt this is a good bid and feck all like the glazers.
Its not race. It's private individual or consortium versus nation state (any nation state, but one with horrendous human rights record needing image polish-up to boot) in disguise.
Apparently makes me hate gay people, tooCareful, you'll get banned for saying that
Given the nature of the rivalries and pettiness between these royal families, and the fact we are the biggest prize realistically available, I would be very surprised if there is no Saudi bid now the qataris have gone public.
It will probably be a month before we really know what each proposal really means.
It will probably be a month before we really know what each proposal really means.
Yeah surprising the fanbase terrorised by exorbitant interest rates and American owners would react negatively to an American hedge fund willing to bankroll an owner by saddling him with exorbitant interest rates.
It really is a mystery.
Yeah we aren't going to be a united fanbase
Common side-effect.
Agreed, although the Saudis may run into similar hurdles as the Qataris given that all their money comes from the same place via the Government - the ground.
what? How could the Qatari bid break contract law if they say develop the hospitality sections of Old Trafford only?
There’s nothing concrete there either.
Surely nothing there can be held against them in court, the contract is between them and the Glazers, unlike the Chelsea sale.
Oh yeah the matchgoers will be out in force tomorrow even though it's obvious all rivals want him to take over which says it all to me
True, there’s no delusions about it - she’s the best
No buyer is putting debt on the club. Where are you getting this idea from?
Careful, your casual racism is showing.
Sure, if ruining peoples lives, being a selfish prat, and pissing off your liquidity provider is smart.
edit: obviously hes smart; he's successful. He's still a giant dick though.
As much as I don’t want Qatar (and I can only laugh about a lot of posts here who are now acting as if almost everything would be rosy with them as owners - no clue if people are just naive or doing mental gymnastics so they can convince themselves) - however all the other bids sound even more dodgy. Main thing is I want the debt gone. We were debt free before the Glazers. They put debt on the club, so if another owner pays for it, I am all for it. Once the debt is gone we will have more financial flexibility in terms of spending on infrastructure, etc.
But still, part of me is still hoping the Qatar bid fails (very little chance I know).
But still, part of me is still hoping the Qatar bid fails (very little chance I know).
He’s not suggesting they’re breaking contract law
Who is going to walk away because SJR buys us?
Is that even an argument? We aren't owned by the UK or USA Governments? How can our current owners have a say on their international policies? If we become Qatar state owned then they obviously have the choice and power to change their domestic policies, but don't. The question is whether the Qatar bid is state driven and given that the man fronting it is Qatar royalty then in my opinion it is.
If he had included those promises in his initial statement would it have been binding though? My understanding would be that it's still possible to renege on that promise if they wanted to. Definitely concerning either way that it wasn't originally mentioned.
Rather have INEOS or Qatar than that US fund. Just please no
Ratcliffe isn't talking big enough for me
Even in the Qatari statement, that says nothing more than that they will invest in the stadium & infrastructure, there’s not a shred of solid information there, yet so many of you are lapping it up 
As they sign off “More details of the bid will be released, when appropriate, if and when the bid process develops.” Which in fairness to them, is exactly how it should be, release more concrete details when the bid gets further down the line.
As they sign off “More details of the bid will be released, when appropriate, if and when the bid process develops.” Which in fairness to them, is exactly how it should be, release more concrete details when the bid gets further down the line.
Oh good, proponents of tax evasion
The comments on that are some seriously depressing shit. We have an absotutely whopper heavy fanbase
No one. Although one thing that is guaranteed is there will be continued moaning irrespective of who the next owner is.
Nor are the Qataris but you’ve lapped up some none concrete pledge to invest in stadium & infrastructure.
Usually those who then wait infront of the Megastore to buy an Mbappe 7 shirt first thing
We won’t end up with American ownership. The fans will go crazy. Qatar, whether we like it or not, will win the bid because they seem the most prepared and obviously have the wealth to throw whatever they want at it.
Of course it isn’t binding. Yet another made up reason to discredit the SJR bid. This place has gone proper bonkers
Can’t wait to see the meltdown when people come to the realisation that this has already been decided.
it was clear to me when the Glazers were travelling allArab countries , even before we heard about them maybe looking to go.
Add along them wanting to get involved with cricket (similar to the Qataris) .
Wouldn’t surprise me if Sjr put that out just for s**t & giggles. He’s never really been serious . Remember when he said he wouldn’t wait for United to come available forever. Then when we do he half steps with such vagueness.
it was clear to me when the Glazers were travelling allArab countries , even before we heard about them maybe looking to go.
Add along them wanting to get involved with cricket (similar to the Qataris) .
Wouldn’t surprise me if Sjr put that out just for s**t & giggles. He’s never really been serious . Remember when he said he wouldn’t wait for United to come available forever. Then when we do he half steps with such vagueness.
'Debt on the club' or 'debt on INEOS' is the same thing - someone is gonna have to pay that. And before someone comes up to me with the 'INEOS has 60 billion revenue', that's not profit. They can have 1 trillion in revenue, it doesn't matter if their expenses are just as much.
This club has suffered enough on the hand of Americans. No thanks.
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