So if a vegan stomped out your burger and called you all sorts you wouldn’t point out that he was wearing a fur coat?
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Rich Sheikh: Hey Emir, I hear you're bidding on MUFC. Can I bid too?
Emir: Sure, if you win there's no hard feelings.
Rich Sheikh: Cool I'll put in a secret bid
Emir: May the best man win. I love to wash our dirty laundry in public.
Mental gymnastics.
The United Kingdom will have no stake in an eventual INEOS ownership model, so not “quite” the same
Apart from neither of them wanting to pay tax in this country.
Perhaps a bit more reseach instead of deciding based on a few sentences in a tweet?
We don't even know the details of the Eliott bid yet do we?
Yeah, and according to some the INEOS pitch is racist and xenophobic too.
Ahhh even finer, complete ignorance to my original point.
Close your eyes, don’t think about where the bid is coming from, and tell me which one is better for the club? The one where details have been laid out on what the new owner intends to do or the one from a local lad who just months ago bid for Chelsea? It’s a very easy answer.
Elliot's business with AC Milan:
The reality of it is that there is a cultural component to it, which will be priced into the broader bid process from a fan perspective. Also, the idea that the Qataris are promising infrastructure development won't be the overriding factor in the Glazer's calculus on who they sell to. They are simply going to go with whoever they can squeeze more money out of following a bidding war.
What do we know about the INEOS bid so far?
Casual 90m/year just in interest
I can see Ratcliffe and Elliott joining forces. Their debt ridden bid will be capable of beating Qatar.
Did you read either proposal? Or are you going by what you see on Twitter ? And from Mike Keegan of DailyMail?
They are moving Manchester to Manchester.
Its putting Manchester back in Manchester United!
Only if Qatar allow that to happen. Don't think anyone can beat Qatar, purely financially, if they're hellbent on buying United
That it's being fronted by a chancer and attention seeker. Who is happy to brief soundbites but no further information.
Apart from old Brexit Jim of course who’ll continue to reside in Monaco.
If its an American owner, Steve Ballmer would seem like a logical choice. He's worth more than all bidders combined and is already experienced in the world of Sport.
Mate, Qatar ain't in control of anything. They aren't going to win either as their bid is nowhere near what Raine is looking for.
We know that it's brexity though.
My original point was Glazers should've not been allowed to buy the club
My other point is the buyout was on awful terms and that took up so money. Why repeat that back to me?
I've not suggested or implied Qatar Ineos bid in terms of taking on the 20m per year currently is a problem so I don't know what your point is there. Should go without saying, especially with Qatar as well as a new stadium.
My only question is the financing of a new stadium and complex along with the current debt for Ineos while keeping up with summer spending along side debt free oil clubs. With Qatar that is so obviously sorted.
We're talking 1.5-2bn to redo OT, training and womens stadium? How much are we hampered paying that off under Ineos? Do half of those improvements even happen? Do we get just a mild stadium update?
Further questions is Sir Jim is old. How much interest is there from his family and business to remain behind United once he's gone, do we get sold off in 5-10 years time anyway as they would rather back other companies, sports or clubs and don't fancy keeping United.
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I've done my research after reading Telsim's post. Have you?
15% interest in their loan to Zhang to purchase Milan. Does that fancy you?
Point being they have more wealth to throw around than the other bidders
I hope you're right. However I honestly crapped in my pants when the Elliotts had been named. I prefer the Glazers to them
A multi billionaire “chancer”, that must be up there with the lad who called Rashford a “dosser” in November.
Doesn't mean it has to be accepted. If a Glazer can cling on and buy out the rest they won't care
But Ballmer doesn't need anyone to finance it and definitely not at the type of rates that Elliott work with. I would assume that Elliott will be linked with a much smaller bidder.
We do know that the debt isn't going to be cleared. We also don't see any positive plans towards the redevelopment of the club like the Qataris do. We also do know that the money that INEOS is going to buy the club with is going to be 'helped" via American bank loans. I think that's enough for me to know we're getting another Glazers.
Is there credible links to him?
True but they aren't interested in overpaying either. There was noise that their bid would "blow others out of the water" but it was still very conservative.
Ballmer is the best choice. It's a pity that his passion lies in basketball, not football.
No.
That's what I meant if they allow that to happen. If they're willing to overspend, they can do so more than the others. Why would they though?
If the price goes beyond the ridiculous then they might as well bail out of it
Yeah Ballmer could just buy the club outright.
Nobody is outbidding Qatar on this. They’ve gone public on the bid and will not been seen to be outbid by a rival. If it’s 5B or 6 they’ll pay it
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