I wonder what the reaction would be if this was from a Chinese or American businessman… it probably be the most unanimous feck off. Billions of debt added to the glazers debt with the possibility of the glazers still staying, no mention of the stadium.
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I wonder what the reaction would be if this was from a Chinese or American businessman… it probably be the most unanimous feck off. Billions of debt added to the glazers debt with the possibility of the glazers still staying, no mention of the stadium.
How do we lose respect? We can't spend more than we make anyway, regardless of who is in charge. Who gives a feck what rival fans think anyway, we shouldn't be pitching our tent on the opinions of people who openly want us to fail and hate us.
Brentford, Brighton and Spurs are the only UK owned clubs.
Why not just stop supporting ?
If PSG is a shitshow,how do you classify Nice then?
And I'll ask again, there is surely more bids we haven't heard about yet?
It's unlikely to be the straight fight between Qatar and Sir jim it's been made out to be.
It's unlikely to be the straight fight between Qatar and Sir jim it's been made out to be.
Nope, PSG actually wore a pride themed jersey last season.
I'm gay too but I can separate United from their owners and their beliefs, I want my club to do well regardless of it's owners.
Spurs are about to be bought out by an American-Iranian with middle east backing
People talk like this is the beginning, it's been happening for a long time.
I cant believe there are people wanting Goldman Sachs to be part of the united future
Yep, people against Qatar shouldn't be rooting for Ratcliffe who really doesn't seem any better overall.
A long time ago going by this thread. It’s effectively a franchise now.
Pre INEOS Bid - "We want to give ETH a huge transfer budget, we want the Glazers out, we want no debt and its important that whoever buy us will heavily invest on the stadium"
Post INEOS Bid - "the debt ain't that bad, its beneficial to keep the Glazers in some capacity. Also is it really important to give ETH alot of money to spend and to have a great stadium?"
Post INEOS Bid - "the debt ain't that bad, its beneficial to keep the Glazers in some capacity. Also is it really important to give ETH alot of money to spend and to have a great stadium?"
Whoever is in charge of the INEOS / Ratcliffe PR campaign needs sacking immediately. From Sir Jim being billed as United’s saviour to becomig less popular then the Qatari's in less then
24 hours. It’s staggeringly incompetent. That wishy washy brexit like statement coming out after seeing what Qatar had announced just makes it even worse. They seem like complete amateurs in comparison. Hard to take them seriously right now.
24 hours. It’s staggeringly incompetent. That wishy washy brexit like statement coming out after seeing what Qatar had announced just makes it even worse. They seem like complete amateurs in comparison. Hard to take them seriously right now.
Yeah you're right, the Glazer's haven't had enough out of us yet. Let's keep them for another 10 years.
Silliest post I have read in a while.
You must not have read the posts wanting Brexit Jim taking over using loans from Goldmans Sachs and no guarantee of existing debts be cleared, and the kicker being there’s a chance the Glazers may even be waiting on as minority stakeholders! But yeah my post is the silliest you’ve read.
So our league titles and CL since 2005 belong to the Glazers? At least be consistent
Someone should ask him whether Manchester United left to Monaco for tax purposes as well.
Concerned that INEOS might have allowed Glazers to maintain a percentage ownership to give them an advantage in their bid against Qatar. I don't know what the other rumoured bids would look like but I'm very concerned at the prospect of Ratcliffe owning the club. Feels like we'll be going backwards.
Yeah, I'm bad at drawing arbitrary lines. I genuinely can't even listen to tunes I like when the artist is a dick. I'm a fecking idiot in lots ways.
Yeah I'm actively hoping Jim loses, the whole 'majority' angle scares me and the 'Make Manchester Great Again' rhetoric is turbo cringe. Abit sad that I'm hoping Qatar of all people blow them out the water.
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No.
Go ahead.
Massive feck up.
I genuinely think he suspect just being British is enough. It's 'his right' to own the club, not a foreigner.
He's hugely over stating what we as the fans want. I couldn't care less about the owners nationality, but what they want/intend for the club.
Jim gives me no faith.
Couple of American consortiums and maybe Saudi Arabia also apparently
Also assuming this majority angle is what we're all fearful of it being. Does Jim think him being a 'local lad' will absolve him from the wrath of the fanbase if he's getting in bed with the Glazers.
Well they're not going to promise what they have no intention of delivering
I do not understand either. two totally different bids.
This summer:
Qatar wins bid - We bid for Mbappe and fix stadium and Carrington.
INEOS/GLazers wins bid - We bid for Aaron Ramsey and Ross Barkley and not fix stadium and Carrington.
Getting a lot wrong today.
Majority could and likely does mean simply buying out only the Glazers and not the remaining floated shares.
Concerned about the fact that Nice haven’t qualified for the CL since INEOS took over. And many are ignoring other red flags like billions debt because it’s Jim.
Exactly. Most cultures / civilisations don't really see a need to subjugate and ram their norms onto others..
Exactly. The morality police can feck off.
Majority ownership does not mean that the Glazers will hold onto the rest of the shares. It could mean, as it was rumoured for weeks, that SJR was trying to get some groups into the bid as it wasn't possible to compete the Qataris alone.
Even if Glazers are holding onto something, it would be to gain leverage in the bidding as Glazers decide ultimately who wins it.
Even if Glazers are holding onto something, it would be to gain leverage in the bidding as Glazers decide ultimately who wins it.
As far as I know, that is correct. The issue as I see it is the clubs are being used to launder the reputation of states who have an image problem and a large part of that image problem stems from their persecution of queer people. When PSG win it is also a PR win for Qatar and cheering a club on knowing that is understandably less comfortable for the LGBTQIA+ football fans than for others.
I don't like Ratcliffe and his attempt to bullshit us with the "Manchester lad" angle. Very disingenuous.
No Jim, you're a tory Brexiteer and tax evader.
No Jim, you're a tory Brexiteer and tax evader.
I’m not a Utd fan.
What you can also be assured of is that the fans as a majority will speak out against any discrimination. United aren't going to become some homsexual hating vehicle for discrimination overnight because the person with the purse lives in a Muslim state and has laws based on the Quran.
0 chance of us going backwards.
- Glazers are shite owners because of their decisions and people they hire. We don't know how anybody will be in that regard, but we know the Glazers are horrible at it. So that's dealt with no matter what
- The current debt on the club cripples us currently. That will be gone. We wont pay for the interest payments or the debt, so again, that will be dealt with, whether it is paid in cash or moved to INEOS is irrelevant for United
- The Glazers remaining as minority holders means they get a much smaller share of dividends and I think Jim has said they wouldn't take out dividends. Not ideal, but not a huge deal ultimately as the sum will be small.
My theory is Jim doesn’t actually want to win the bid.
Exactly.
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