Mate I don't think you're getting me... I read their statement and not one mention of the Glazers, people just love the doom and gloom.. it would quite obviously be the current minority shares on the NYSE not the Glazers.
Anyhow I'm Qatar in so.
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Mate I don't think you're getting me... I read their statement and not one mention of the Glazers, people just love the doom and gloom.. it would quite obviously be the current minority shares on the NYSE not the Glazers.
Anyhow I'm Qatar in so.
There’s a boyhood United fan who wants to buy us without debt. Funny how everyone who talks about “women” have ignored the fact that the Qatari bid would also be great for the women’s team, while under Jim’s there’s no mention of the women’s team, stadium, training facilities…. Just the same appeal Ole used to use.
fecking ban for shit like this
Because look at the fallout from the INEOS statement. It hasn't exactly helped their bid.
Completely agreed
Ligue 1 only has two spots that directly qualify for the CL but Nice have been expected to be in the mix for a long time. In Ligue 1 the 3rd to 7th placed team are generally very close in terms of expectations and Nice have been in the mix since 2015.
From what I've seen its:
Qatar
Ratcliffe/INEOS
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Pagliuca + MLSE (Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment)
Saudi
Think they have different class of shares, they would own a stake of the club but wouldn't have the voting rights.
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Have they been underperforming since the takeover or more or less the same, performing to expectations?
People Seem to think if random upper mid table club doesn't turn into a title challenger than it's the sign of bad management which is just nonsense
So then say you don't know shitting the bed and saying it means the Glazers are staying when you don't know makes you look like a drama queen.
As for the statements both very vague as expected at this stage these bids are soft bids the detail will be flushed out in due course
Not great that.
I would say it's more subtle than what you're describing there and clearly these states believe it works, as they continue to purchase more clubs.
That doesn't make sense to me. Does that mean Glazers will always have a minority stake regardless of who buys the club?
Fully agree but it's one thing saying you will no longer support the club and another saying you actively want them to do shit. The thread is very reactionary and emotional at the moment and that is a pretty incendiary statement.
So you don’t think a website of a national newspaper is a better representative than Twitter?
Why?
I obviously don't want the Glazers to stay in the medium to long term.
I'm just not in a rushed panic to banish them from the club as soon as humanly possible. The team is progressing really well atm and Joel + Avram are plugged into the existing set up whether we like it or not. A prompt exit from them will lead to at least some disruption.
It's clearly already working on some people
They finished 7th, who cares where they were in December. The owner isn't the manager or the players. You don't notice ownership impact in 1 or 2 years unless they financially dope the club.
And, I assume, the right to collect dividends, or am I wrong?
Well it is what it is, they'll have to talk at some point if they want to take it further, and I'd doubt the Saudi intentions would be any different to the Qatar ones.
It's the American bids that worry me the most, they could have us begging for Sir Jim to be successful if the Glazers want to hold onto to some of the club come what may.
We're still 3rd in the league and making progress. Glazers are shite owners but it is possible INEOS could be even more shite owners. Ratcliffe hasn't done a good job at all at Nice. Also there's still been no mention from INEOS of removing the debt, so we don't know that that will be gone. In fact, everything suggests they have needed to take on more debt for the bid which will need to be paid off with interest, regardless of whether or not the new debt is officially under the name of INEOS instead of Utd (which I'm pretty sure would have been illegal anyway). You'd hope the dividends part is at least true, but there are a huge amount of negatives with this bid from what I can see.
No it won't.
True. I'm not really pro the Qatari ownership but people need to understand that things like gay rights wouldn't necessarily be an issue to most Arab dictators who lived a good portion of their lives in the west and probably enjoy a drink or two. Arab countries are largely conservative and are few decades away from human rights standards in the west. Most Asian and African countries are the same too. There's a lot to criticize them for, but they aren't as powerful on theses issues as you think they are.
No it means the Glazers don’t own all the shares and can’t sell shares that they don’t own. They only own 69% and that is what Raine is dealing with.
In what way? United won't pay for it anymore. Why does it matter to you if the company pays it off like they pay off their own debts? It is irrelevant to the club.
I see the mouthpieces of INEOS are in a rush to state that they are buying out the Glazers due to the adverse reaction to their majority bid 
I don't know about the expectations on Nice but signing Ramsey, Schmeichel and Barkley in the same summer seems to be stupid planning.
I dont know if you know but this, but is a forum and we express our views here and im worried about when bidders of the club give out vague statements when they dont have to be vague.
Fine if you dont agree with me about their intensions but no need to call names.
If they own B shares they will but those shares have 0 power so you'd only hold them for minimum dividend they'll pay each annum
Ahh I see.
Yes because they stagnated. They are basically doing worse than the previous ownership, which is a bit strange since the previous ownership was largely focused on upgrading the club's infrastructures with a new training center, stadium and academy. The only thing that INEOS had or has to focus on is the football side and they have added nothing.
Now to be fair, maybe it's just growing pains and INEOS is learning about managing a Football club but if it's not the case then we are talking about a below average ownership.
Literally, the only reason why the Qataris are the popular choice is because 'they have loads of money'. Do you really think the majority of people have actually read the statements etc.? No, their thought process can be simplified to this:
Qataris make bid + Qataris extremely rich = Qataris are the best
Most of them have probably never even heard of Ineos/Ratcliffe.
On another page a poster asked you if that means the Glazers are stating you replied only with "yes" that's not an opinion
No, if you have not skipped statistics and polls and skipped the part of the first rule of polls (margin of error in sampling), then I cant explain more.
To start with United is a global organisation and not national. These are the basics of polls my friend.
Nope. The Qatar statement is what everyone is keen on.
From what’s been said and reported it seems the Qatari bid is the largest as they want full ownership of the club and not a majority. Just hope it’s large enough to convince them to sell to them rather than INEOS
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