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If this happens, the forums will descend into a civil war much worse than anything we've seen from the days of Mourinho and Ole.

I would be curious to know which side the “silent majority” is on. This forum has a huge number of posters but this thread by and large is mostly the same people on both sides of the discussion. It would be interesting to know where most people really stand.
 
It's why I take 'sportswashing' claims with a massive grain of salt. Politically we do all sorts of deals with these countries and barely anyone bats an eyelid but sports? Don't you dare touch our sports you sportswashers.
I with you there, if we didn't we'd be sitting in caves freezing our bollocks off!
 
Considering this gigantic size of United's global fanabase, 2000 fans leaving would be like a fart in the wind.
Most of them were regular matchday fans that travelled to games, contributed to the local economy and area, and added to the atmosphere. It's not just about the 'global fanbase'.
 
It's why I take 'sportswashing' claims with a massive grain of salt. Politically we do all sorts of deals with these countries and barely anyone bats an eyelid but sports? Don't you dare touch our sports you sportswashers.

Buy our fighter jets, missiles and weapon systems yet don't dare touch our sports you scoundrels.
 
Ah sorry, I admit I'm guilty of it too. I'm just so pissed off that these arseholes are planning to wash away their sins in the good waters of this club. They're not buying it for profit so the alternative is a sinister ulterior motive. QSI are obviously huge fans of gorton and Stockport. They dreamed of making man city a big club ever since they rode on camels.

And I get the position of people for who United are one of the only good things in their life, and they are trying to focus on the football and just enjoy that. It makes me even more angry that these people are now going to have this shadow over them for as long as they're owned by this lot. At least the glazers were just financial parasites. These guys are a parasite of a different kind.

You can explain why you don't like them as potential owners withoit base racist clichés. Ta.
 
It's why I take 'sportswashing' claims with a massive grain of salt. Politically we do all sorts of deals with these countries and barely anyone bats an eyelid but sports? Don't you dare touch our sports you sportswashers.

Yeah, because people might want to take a stand against things within their control (supporting a football club) than things outside their control? Other than maybe protests or petitions what are people supposed to do against arms sales, move out of the country?
 
I still think US Investors may be willing to pay more for us.

None of us know what the private 'Qatari investors' are worth or how much they are willing to spend.

I have a hunch these "private" Qatari investors will be related to the Sheikh in one form or another.
 
Is there any bid other than Qatari one atm? Football is business and money talks as we know but there will probably always be questions from moral aspect of the story. Not sure what to think about it.

Currently, there are no known bids from anyone and only Ineos (Ratcliffe) have confirmed that they will bid. There has been a lot of press speculation about Qatar, Saudi Arabia, US consortia etc but that all remains at the speculation level thus far, with nobody involved corroborating any of these stories.
 
I would be curious to know which side the “silent majority” is on. This forum has a huge number of posters but this thread by and large is mostly the same people on both sides of the discussion. It would be interesting to know where most people really stand.

We need a poll in this thread Would you be okay with state or state-backed ownership? Or a new thread asking people if they will continue supporting United if the club is sold to the Saudis or the Qataris.
 
Is there any reason to think a bid from Qatar wouldn't be the biggest and wouldn't be the one accepted?

Because I am assuming the valuation other parties place on the club are likely to be more constrained by business rationale and there's no reason for the Glazers to do anything other than opt for the highest bid.

Is there any factor I'm missing that makes it more complicated than that? Aside from having to convince UEFA there are no significant ties to other Qatari backed clubs, I guess.

That's my thinking as well and I said as much the other day. If they're seriously interested they'll just outbid everyone else. In short, we're doomed to state ownership.
 
Putting morals aside, is nobody here concerned at the possible repercussions for the club under Qatari ownership should, say, the currently relatively stable geopolitical situation in the Persian Gulf deteriorate, or if Qatari-UK relations nosedive in some way? The example of Abramovich should surely be considered.
 
It's why I take 'sportswashing' claims with a massive grain of salt. Politically we do all sorts of deals with these countries and barely anyone bats an eyelid but sports? Don't you dare touch our sports you sportswashers.
Do you seriously not get the difference?! I'd obviously much rather my government didn't make political deals with autocratic nations with deplorable human rights records, but I've come to expect very little from the Tory cnuts. It's obviously different with United.
 
:lol: glad the club isn't dependent on your best judgement or we'd have Amber Heard in as CEO anyway.

You're wrong, in both cases, and your post adds nothing to the discussion and is needlessly aggressive being a prick.

Discussion? You were being snarky and I gave a pretty serious reply. Nothing aggressive about it but pointing out the general trend of misinformation when it comes to Qatar etc. People who have never been there, get all their news from BBC and swallow it like the end. Someone was pointing out how it's messed up Mandela was at the opening at Qatar given they have slaves. That's how messed up the situation is.
 
Nice to see so many of you who just do not give a shit who owns the club as long as they give you players and money. Im certain the womens team will be excited to be owned and funded by the regime that do not allow women do live life without permission from a male guardian. You lot have the backbone of a jellyfish and Im happy to take a account warning for the truble of telling you as much.
Well said. I feel sick at the prospect.
 
You just sound ignorant here, unless you think that the people at the top of QSI actually commute via camel everyday. Judging by your posts, it does sound as if you actually believe that.
I'm paraphrasing a quote from sheikh Rashid the founder of Dubai

"My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I ride a Mercedes, my son rides a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to ride a Land Rover…but my great-grandson is going to have to ride a camel again."
 
Some people are proper odd.

Qatar and their human rights issues? Go on then.

Manchester United legend David Beckham? Oh god no get him away.
Honestly, they'll happily shit on Beckham, Neville and the rest, but bend over backwards for Qatar. Sad bastards.
 
Putting morals aside, is nobody here concerned at the possible repercussions for the club under Qatari ownership should, say, the currently relatively stable geopolitical situation in the Persian Gulf deteriorate, or if Qatari-UK relations nosedive in some way? The example of Abramovich should surely be considered.


Yeah but surely we will want their gas.
 
Putting morals aside, is nobody here concerned at the possible repercussions for the club under Qatari ownership should, say, the currently relatively stable geopolitical situation in the Persian Gulf deteriorate, or if Qatari-UK relations nosedive in some way? The example of Abramovich should surely be considered.

No because UK would just force them to sell of ban Qatar. At the end of the day all the eggs are in UK's basket. They're not some kids being taken for a ride here they are letting Qatar build an asset for them in their country. The moment they are not useful or a threat they will pull the plug just as you pointed out with Abramovich
 
Most of them were regular matchday fans that travelled to games, contributed to the local economy and area, and added to the atmosphere. It's not just about the 'global fanbase'.
TBH - most of the ones you describe have already probably gone, I'm one of them, not because of the Glazer's though, because it became too expensive
 
Putting morals aside, is nobody here concerned at the possible repercussions for the club under Qatari ownership should, say, the currently relatively stable geopolitical situation in the Persian Gulf deteriorate, or if Qatari-UK relations nosedive in some way? The example of Abramovich should surely be considered.
If that happens the U.K. govt will force them to sell and some other cnuts will buy us. Club is too big to fail.
 
Is there any reason to think a bid from Qatar wouldn't be the biggest and wouldn't be the one accepted?

Because I am assuming the valuation other parties place on the club are likely to be more constrained by business rationale and there's no reason for the Glazers to do anything other than opt for the highest bid.

Is there any factor I'm missing that makes it more complicated than that? Aside from having to convince UEFA there are no significant ties to other Qatari backed clubs, I guess.
This question is interesting to me because if the incredibly rich the money's nothing to him Ratcliffe actually does outbid the Qataris et al I would have to accept that he is a genuine fan and not just another Glazer-type trying to make money out of us in his own way. I will admit I've been wrong all along, guess we'll find out.

Also the thread's moving too fast for me to read it all, I must be missing loads of decent points I know.
 
TBH - most of the ones you describe have already probably gone, I'm one of them, not because of the Glazer's though, because it became too expensive
I know a lot left for good, some definitely came back as I know of a few. Saying things like 'who gives a feck - the global fan base is massive' annoys me, though. Like the people that make the effort to go to games don't matter a jot.
 
The parting gift from the Glazers - selling Man Utd to that disgusting qatar regime.

The worse thing that ever happened to Utd was the Glazers.

For me personally, the moment that sale takes place, Man Utd cease to exist.
You've summed it up perfectly and i fully agree. I'm so sad at how this is unfolding.
 
That's what rival fans do regardless. What the glazers first bought United, they were all mocking United by chanting USA, USA, USA!

do you really not see the difference between chants of “USA USA” and chants about slave labour, and other human rights abuses?
 
Weird post, honestly.
No, what is weird is “Hey, look at me taking a stance” posts on a forum claiming they’ll give up watching the team they’ve invested their whole life and that Utd will cease to exist for them. If you take that stance, good for you. There’s no need to post ranting and raving about it. Just do it. Leave those who will continue to support the club regardless carry on.
 
You can explain why you don't like them as potential owners withoit base racist clichés. Ta.

Was referencing a quote by Sheik Rashid, but i can understand how that looks bad without the context in the post. Sorry. I don't agree with their politics and hate the treatment of migrant workers, gays and women but i dont see them as any less than any other race as a result.
 
Sky reporting that Glazers actually asked Qatar if they are interested in buying United.
 
Putting morals aside, is nobody here concerned at the possible repercussions for the club under Qatari ownership should, say, the currently relatively stable geopolitical situation in the Persian Gulf deteriorate, or if Qatari-UK relations nosedive in some way? The example of Abramovich should surely be considered.
Abrahmovich was forced to sell because of his ties to a dictator who's country invaded another one, It's not really likely that Qatar is going to invade one of it's neighbours so the comparison isn't worthy
 
Discussion? You were being snarky and I gave a pretty serious reply. Nothing aggressive about it but pointing out the general trend of misinformation when it comes to Qatar etc. People who have never been there, get all their news from BBC and swallow it like the end. Someone was pointing out how it's messed up Mandela was at the opening at Qatar given they have slaves. That's how messed up the situation is.

A pretty serious reply where you incorrectly asserted I've never been to Saudi Arabia, or know any Saudi people? Now you're shiteing on about only consuming BBC and talking compete shite about Qatar? Despite knowing literally nothing about me?

Good man shamans, no wonder your opinion is held on such high regard by the caf at large :lol:

KSA in. Amber Heard in.

Christ.
 
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