Club Sale | It’s done!
- Thread starter JB08
- Start date
- Status
Quite a comical read. We didn't really want a DoF (2.5 year "search") until Murtough told Woodward and Joel Glazer that he'd be leaving (to go work with his mate in Miami) unless they gave him the jobhttps://theathletic.com/5151315/2023/12/22/manchester-united-fotball-news-transfers
Pretty infuriating read. Hopefully a big change is coming, because it's needed. Arnold and Murtough were acting like headless chickens, to no one's surprise. The worst part of the article for me is that we ditched the plans for both Kane and Rice because of Casemiro.
My eyes are wide reading this article is it any wonder it’s a clown show stumbling over one another at United.
One thing you can guarantee under INEOS is we’ll have a slick operation , it may not be the richest or the most glamorous but it will certainly be methodical and organised.
I’m sickened by the incompetence at United absolutely shocking.
First point of business - Murtough out , this piece is almost pushing him out , could be strategic to have him hand in his notice. Either way he has to be binned. No operation can be successful under him.
I’d be amazed if he worked in the football industry again. That Inter Miami offer , absolute bullshit not a chance Beckham would have him there. He’s well aware. Purely made up by Murtough to pressure Glazers into giving him the job (Arnold).
One thing you can guarantee under INEOS is we’ll have a slick operation , it may not be the richest or the most glamorous but it will certainly be methodical and organised.
I’m sickened by the incompetence at United absolutely shocking.
First point of business - Murtough out , this piece is almost pushing him out , could be strategic to have him hand in his notice. Either way he has to be binned. No operation can be successful under him.
I’d be amazed if he worked in the football industry again. That Inter Miami offer , absolute bullshit not a chance Beckham would have him there. He’s well aware. Purely made up by Murtough to pressure Glazers into giving him the job (Arnold).
Knives are well and truly out now. Big Jim at the carving station
I read it as Murtough and those involved in recruitment at the club spent the time before ETH's appointment sitting on their hands rather than drawing up a list of potential targets, so that when we initially walked away from the Antony deal we had nowhere to go, which lead to a stick or twist decision at the board level. So a failure of football operations to do their job leaves them with literally only one option to strengthen the attack.
Happened with Mount as well, player in the last year of his contract and we need a striker, but we panic because Chelsea might sell him to one of our rivals and we have no plan B so we over pay for Mount and don't fix our other issues. A well run club would have left that deal till the absolute last minute and put Chelsea over a barrel. Think about how different Mount would be percieved as a bonus signing for £40 million.
The whole article paints Murtough as some kind of political savant, ingratiating himself with all the right people so he can literally only fail upwards. The fact he could mug off SAF, feck up the Bellingham deal and still be trusted to run things... I just can't.
You've mostly been wrong on this forum and are constantly corrected by many on this forum. The beat down you got in the Kobbie Mainoo thread when attempting to defend McTominay was particularly amusing.
You tell me I'm wrong then go on to explain why I'm right!
Gotta love the caf.
And no, it's not obvious that we need to be better at defending when attacking as you put it. But rather we need to be better at defending when defending, especially when defending large spaces.
you sure do make some stuff up at times. Going to quote a website which I'm sure you're familiar with: TFA,
Rest defence tactics usually involve a couple of players that will stay behind the attacking line and snuff out all and any attempts at counterattacking and transitional play. Usually, we will see midfielders positioned deeper and just ahead of the defensive line
Being better at defending when attacking falls into being better at defending full stop, it comes into structure and positional play.
It's not rocket science, nor does it need to be overcomplicated.
Exactly this, Murtough needs to go day one of INEOS. And frankly Fletcher too as noone knows what he does. And I suspect ETH not long after,
The talkSHITE blessing.Alright, now it's definitely happening shortly
The Reuters guy. Announcement can be done today.
https://x.com/PeteHall86/status/1738098211296858349?t=5ZKyPs2-yOtDP3YHsc0OnQ&s=09
https://x.com/PeteHall86/status/1738098211296858349?t=5ZKyPs2-yOtDP3YHsc0OnQ&s=09
Not sure what you're going on about.
Going to quote a website which I'm sure you're familiar with: TFA,
Rest defence tactics usually involve a couple of players that will stay behind the attacking line and snuff out all and any attempts at counterattacking and transitional play. Usually, we will see midfielders positioned deeper and just ahead of the defensive line
Being better at defending when attacking falls into being better at defending full stop, it comes into structure and positional play.
It's not rocket science, nor does it need to be overcomplicated.
There's being better at defending and being better at defending in large spaces when you're defending from the front. And when you're defending from the front and your first line of pressure is breached it opens up a battle between the resting defense and the resting offense, who are players occupying spaces to take advantage in transition. 1
Here We Go?
https://theathletic.com/5151315/2023/12/22/manchester-united-fotball-news-transfers
Pretty infuriating read. Hopefully a big change is coming, because it's needed. Arnold and Murtough were acting like headless chickens, to no one's surprise. The worst part of the article for me is that we ditched the plans for both Kane and Rice because of Casemiro.
It's shocking to me that the picture painted by this article is something the Caf has actually managed to put together, more or less. The bizarre pivot from De Jong to Casemiro, the Antony debacle, the bargain bin loans. Everything screams rife incompetence, people that have no business being in the positions they are, massive amount of thumb twiddling, cumbersome structure, no vision, and no plan. It's just the most basic mismanagement case.
I mean, look at this:
This is just not serious. Beginning the transfer conversations 1 month before the window opens? What!? Deciding on the profile of players, and managers, should be done more or less in accordance with club philosophy. Which is something decided above the manager's station.
The entire structure of the club needs to be eviscerated top to bottom. Murtough, in particular, needs to be excised as a matter of immediate urgency. Almost everyone on the Caf had sniffed him out as well. I think Ratcliffe is making a mistake by keeping him on.
Last edited:
Yeah that snake needs to go. Having read that Whitwell piece, it’s actually a glorious stroke of luck that these clowns haven’t yet got us relegated and I now understand what Jose meant when he said getting 2nd place was his greatest career accomplishment.
Imo, the early statement regarding the Super League is perhaps an indication that the deal is closer than we thought
Many won’t like this one but Th United Stand say the announcement is expected today.
The Athletic article is quite incredible. You have the Bellingham stuff, the Antony stuff, the Højlund stuff, so many bits on Murtough, but the Amad thing is unreal.
Ole supported his signing as an academy prospect, only for Murtough to fly off to Bergamo to agree a fee for him for £37m with the expectation he would soon be in the first team. feck me.
… and people wonder how Atalanta had our pants back down for the Højlund fee too.
Ole supported his signing as an academy prospect, only for Murtough to fly off to Bergamo to agree a fee for him for £37m with the expectation he would soon be in the first team. feck me.
… and people wonder how Atalanta had our pants back down for the Højlund fee too.
It's almost like they took what journalists said and pretended like they have inside information.
@Berbaclass did you get anything on discord about a Ratcliff announcement at Xmas before any of the public news said it?
He said when discussing Ben Jacobs' Tweet "we can also confirm they're not writing today off" and "I think it will get announced this afternoon". He genuinely knows feck all but loves playing the game to make it sound like he does.
Sportwashing changed to greenwashing.
Reassures to me though that as soon as they get people who can do the job, it won’t take much to get united as a top team again.https://theathletic.com/5151315/2023/12/22/manchester-united-fotball-news-transfers
Pretty infuriating read. Hopefully a big change is coming, because it's needed. Arnold and Murtough were acting like headless chickens, to no one's surprise. The worst part of the article for me is that we ditched the plans for both Kane and Rice because of Casemiro.
Theyre capable of signing the top players and making a top squad. It’s just always individual morons who hold us back
I understand the concept, it's pretty simple to comprehend, also pretty simple to adhere to, as it basically is all about structure.
You are trying to over complicate a very simple function.
But anyhow, this is probably not the thread for this sort of discussion.
None of this should surprise anyone (assuming it's all true). We all know how badly run the club has been, it's been obvious with the awful transfer business for the last decade.
It's also why some of us want the club to completely start over. Go through the entire club structure and smash it to pieces. Nobody should be safe, along with players and Manager. Literally everyone should be assessed and the fans should give complete backing to our new overlords.
I have no problem if we have a season or two of bad results if at least there's clear indication we're rebuilding for the long term. As long as we see evidence of that then fantastic. I just want the club to be run properly again, is that too much to ask so close to Christmas?
Side note, this should be in a new thread.
It's also why some of us want the club to completely start over. Go through the entire club structure and smash it to pieces. Nobody should be safe, along with players and Manager. Literally everyone should be assessed and the fans should give complete backing to our new overlords.
I have no problem if we have a season or two of bad results if at least there's clear indication we're rebuilding for the long term. As long as we see evidence of that then fantastic. I just want the club to be run properly again, is that too much to ask so close to Christmas?
Side note, this should be in a new thread.
It's staggering how badly run we are. If we didn't have as much money as we do we'd get relegated in no time at all.
Let me guess... new year new club?
An improvement over new year new me I suppose.
An improvement over new year new me I suppose.
It's not all about structure, but also about the profile of players within that structure, that allows one to structure and execute a play style that sacrifices defensive stability for goals.
On the plus side, it should be very easy to improve on this gross incompetence.
Please just get this done and bring in a competent DOF so Manchester United can start to resemble a football club again.
I'm with you on this, and I also feel like ETH and every single one of our past managers could've done significantly better if it wasn't such a shitshow.
Reading some of this stuff is staggering. We all knew it was bad but the sheer incompetence of the higher ups at Manchester united is unbelievable.
How much money has this club wasted on incompetence. Hopefully ineos get a grip of this clown show.
How much money has this club wasted on incompetence. Hopefully ineos get a grip of this clown show.
Again, that's obvious, you are still trying to over complicate a very simple thing.
Cruyff said it best:
'If you have the ball you must make the field as big as possible. If you don’t have it, you must make it as small as possible.'
No need to use terms like rest defence, just understated simplicity.
Anyway I can read this article as I don’t sub?
Not much new in that article, I think we had kinda pieced the puzzle together. Murtough is a disgrace, would be absolutely terrible if he is kept under any capacity. He has been much more damaging than any manager or player we have had.
Again you have no idea what you're talking about and your Cruyff quote has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
So what Cruyff is saying is that when you have the ball you make the pitch as big as possible within the positional play principles. And if you don't have the ball you make it as small as possible by dropping deeper and not pressing high.
There is a reason why Klopp rejected us and joined Liverpool at a time when Liverpool was a joke. We were/are the bigger clown.
- Status