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Someone buying a partial stake only makes sense if someone else is buying the rest from the glazers, the whole reason they want to sell now, is that you're looking at 7 clubs just now who could all be considered possible top 4 candidates, so in order to keep united profitable its going to require a fair bit of investment, and loan interest and dividends might not be an option short term. If its only a partial sale then this level of investment won't be forthcoming and the value of the brand will drop over the next 10 years and Newcastle, city, Chelsea and Liverpool if they get a rich owner pull away from us
 
It was never not news that they also explored partial sale. Think it was literally the thread title at some point. They are being forced out by their brokeness not because they really want to. Even their asking price seems like they are mad about it.
The ironic downside of the team currently doing well is that the club will now be considerably more attractive to minority investment profit-seekers.
 
Proceeds from a partial sale will probably just end up in Glazer pockets with the club not seeing a penny of it.

I assume the divide is between the Glazer kids - some want to sell and book their gains and move on to more interesting things and others want to keep the club.

Partial sale will keep the sell brigade quite for a little while because they get some cash to spend.

I am 100% against the idea of a partial sale. As fans we should really push for a full sale.
 
Proceeds from a partial sale will probably just end up in Glazer pockets with the club not seeing a penny of it.

I assume the divide is between the Glazer kids - some want to sell and book their gains and move on to more interesting things and others want to keep the club.

Partial sale will keep the sell brigade quite for a little while because they get some cash to spend.

I am 100% against the idea of a partial sale. As fans we should really push for a full sale.

Any minority investor would likely demand the money to be invested back into the club to protect the value of the club
 
The data room?
Where do these journalists get their language from, this aint Nasa.

Theres probably just some online portal they log into held by Raine group. :lol:
 
Yeah his biggest supporters need to see this

Why?

Don't you imagine he will have a different view on Manchester United than he will re Nice?

I don't want him but looking at how he handles some tiny (in relation) French club compared to how he would run Utd is a bit of a stretch.
 
I don’t think the Amazon and US links are not over yet.
Apple may also come back into the fold.

Commercially it makes massive sense to buy united, the partnerships would be quite something.

For instance all or nothing United would be insanely popular, along with pl rights bidding coming soon and Apple rumoured to go big for them.

Watch this space. I think some proper big boys are waiting in the wings to have a go.

On SJR I wouldn’t be overly surprised if his view is to come in, steady the ship and sell one again for a profit, United may be worth 5/6bln now but in 5 years time with rebuilding and renovating of OT it could easily be worth 10ish
I don't necessarily have a problem with an American buying the team; plenty of good options (Bezos, Cook, etc.) that will have a strong desire to compete and win. The problem is all of the American PE firms lurking around...their only goal is to make money and suck their portfolio companies dry. We would be no better off than with the Glaziers, potentially worse off.
 
Why?

Don't you imagine he will have a different view on Manchester United than he will re Nice?

I don't want him but looking at how he handles some tiny (in relation) French club compared to how he would run Utd is a bit of a stretch.

If he can't even succeed with a small club, why do you think he can succeed at the biggest in the world...
 
If he can't even succeed with a small club, why do you think he can succeed at the biggest in the world...

I keep my car cleaner and in better condition than I keep a random scrap of paper in a desk drawer that I barely know is there.

The way he handles Nice is absolutely irrelevant in comparison to Man Utd.
 
I keep my car cleaner and in better condition than I keep a random scrap of paper in a desk drawer that I barely know is there.

The way he handles Nice is absolutely irrelevant in comparison to Man Utd.

What if this random piece of paper cost 100m-200m?
 
He is a local lad

His question was to me, did I say that or did I offer a slightly more nuanced point worth discussing and you decided to just interject and try to shut down the actual conversation?

Good job devilish, never stop being you.
 
I keep my car cleaner and in better condition than I keep a random scrap of paper in a desk drawer that I barely know is there.

The way he handles Nice is absolutely irrelevant in comparison to Man Utd.

If you can't drive a Dacia why should I believe you can drive a Lamborghini
 
His question was to me, did I say that or did I offer a slightly more nuanced point worth discussing and you decided to just interject and try to shut down the actual conversation?

Good job devilish, never stop being you.

You do know that people are allowed to discuss someone else's posts don't you? That is how forums work.
 
That's how much Nice had costed ineos. His success in other sports was hardly spectacular either

You have literally missed the exact point I was making.

Nice was a relatively small investment for Ineos, Manchester United would not be and would also be of far greater interest to Radcliffe.

Which reinforces my point of the comparison to Nice being utterly irrelevant.
 
You have literally missed the exact point I was making.

Nice was a relatively small investment for Ineos, Manchester United would not be and would also be of far greater interest to Radcliffe.

Which reinforces my point of the comparison to Nice being utterly irrelevant.

I want to believe that,also have seen suggestions he wouldn't let us spend well each transfer window either
 
You do know that people are allowed to discuss someone else's posts don't you? That is how forums work.

You did not discuss anything, you jumped in like an idiot with the same nonsense you had already posted moments ago and ignored the context of what you were actually talking about.

I am criticising you because the above is not how forums should work.
 
If you can't drive a Dacia why should I believe you can drive a Lamborghini

If you had a Lambo you will probably be a bit more concerned about driving it properly because you know how valuable it is.

I don't want Ratcliffe but you can clearly tell Nice and Manchester United are totally different propositions as and owner so it is a good guess that they would be ran differently. What he does with Nice is about as relevant to how he treats a pair of running shoes in comparison to Manchester United.
 
You have literally missed the exact point I was making.

Nice was a relatively small investment for Ineos, Manchester United would not be and would also be of far greater interest to Radcliffe.

Which reinforces my point of the comparison to Nice being utterly irrelevant.

Sailing . In 2018, Ratcliffe and INEOS invested well over £100million in a bid, amongst other things, to claim the America’s Cup in 2021. INEOS Team UK, led by Ben Ainslie, lost an eliminator 7-1 and did not make the final.


Cycling . In the spring of 2019, Team Sky became Team INEOS after Ratcliffe sanctioned a deal said to be worth £40million a year. A Team Sky rider had won Le Tour in each of the four previous years and Egan Bernal duly made sure INEOS got off to a winning start. Since then, they have not won it.


Formula One. INEOS bought a third of the all-conquering Mercedes team ahead of the 2021 season, which saw them win an eighth consecutive constructors’ championship. In 2022, they did not even make the top two.


Football. INEOS own Nice - mid-table in France - and Lausanne-Sport, who were relegated from the top tier of Swiss football at the end of last season.

I don't think he is the white knight people think he is, but you can understand to a degree why some would want him over ME owners.

Failure seem to be Sir Ratcliffe's trend across all that concerns sport.
 
From a...I don't know what to call it..."moral" perspective, Ratcliffe is hardly better than the Glazers, arguably worse.

He's an actual, outspoken advocate of fracking: in other words, either an idiot (who doesn't understand what his money making schemes will lead to) or...yes, what? Evil?

He's an utter cnut.
 
If you had a Lambo you will probably be a bit more concerned about driving it properly because you know how valuable it is.

I don't want Ratcliffe but you can clearly tell Nice and Manchester United are totally different propositions as and owner so it is a good guess that they would be ran differently. What he does with Nice is about as relevant to how he treats a pair of running shoes in comparison to Manchester United.

I think it's fair to be concerned about how someone will manage a huge project based on how they have handled much smaller projects.
Of course none of us know how he will do but the concerns are fair?
 
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