The DM article to me is clickbait. Follow the stock price. This gives the clearest indication of where prospects for a sale are. Incidentally, it’s near highs. The market will know before we do what will become of the sale. Now if on Tuesday the stock price drops precipitously, then, be worried.
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Based just on watching that interview then I don't think he is bullshitting about having been told what he is reporting, but then question becomes why the source close to the Glazers in particular is briefing a journalist at all? Someone inside the camp going rouge, or some sort of strategy from the top, maybe to try to influence a reaction from the buyers?
But I keep coming back to the Glazers not getting back to the bidders in three months - if they are wanting more money then why not send that message direct? Waiting three months clearly hasn't done anything to encourage higher bids since the buyers have no idea what is going on since there has been silence from the twats
Maybe the briefing is to get the story out before anything becomes official in order to try to kill the anger of the fans? But then why do it before a big televised game?
I'm leaning towards there being no depth to this beyond the surface; that they just aren't selling and that's an end to it.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
Going to need to have more aggression as a fan base.
It’s pretty obvious. The main protesters are working class Manc fans. Most with little money. How are they going to export to Florida?
Those predictions for growth cite too many variables and intangibles that a shareholder has very minimal ability to control. I personally think it's rubbish there are establishments (Reuters / Bloomberg) with far stronger networks in the private equity industry who have maintained that a sale is the most realistic prospect.
What's not being addressed is the Glazers plan to have to finance the debt for the stadium. The issue with longstanding interest / potential increases. The state of the American economy in 24 months and the likelihood of a recession I think the forecast have got worse as time has progressed. I think there are more existential reasons externally for the Glazers selling as opposed to what's relative to the just the environment of football.
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Yeah funny how he's heard and spoke about it after the exclusive came out.
I wonder how many others have heard the same miraculously, but not the bidders... Hmmm odd that
Still seems to me like this is, if true, a desperate last ditch attempt to force the buyers hand into offering more. The Glazers KNOW that we won't win it all in the next couple of years, they're incompetent and the sorts, but even they know it's not going to happen. They know it's now or never for a sale, as in 2025, this club could be worth half, maybe a quarter of what it is now if we enter freefall
Anyone thinking a Qatar ownership will solve anything needs to be careful what they wish for.
I guarantee with some organisation an American protest would have more impact. Short of getting games cancelled the UK protests are meaningless.
Yeah, I really am scared of the club having a modern stadium, no debt and enough money to compete with City, so we don't get overtaken in PL titles and CL trophies in the next 10 years.
Some of you are living in a fantasy land.
Such a scary thought... i'd rather take the Glazers, saddled with debt, no chance of winning the league for the next 10 years, crumbling stadium, failure to invest in the team etc, any day of the week!
Come on... people really want more of this crap over Qatar ownership?
I am left with the impression some of them think Qatar (if it's even Qatar although that is 95% likely) owning us means the Sheikh will automatically get the right to have a go at their missus each night.
Sad people. Hold the club back.
It's all sizzle and no steak, something the DM does often. They haven't got the foggiest idea because (a) the Glazers have said nothing and (b) neither have the two parties involved. The Raine group are keeping quiet too, although articles have appeared trying to get them to rise to the fly. So yes, eyes on the NYSE on Tueday by ll means but I don't think we'll see a massive drop.
American protests will have the effect of a wet fart over there. Nobody cares
Not if it’s at their houses. That’s what is needed.
Sending some pasty feckers with balaclavas and a slogan written on a bedsheet to burn themselves into a carcinoma in Florida isn't going to help anyone
Would it really be so hard to arrange for even a handful of Florida-based fans to stand outside the Glazer's business premises with some placards for a few hours?
Or throw up some fliers around their local neighbourhood/public infoboards?
Or crowdfund some public advertising space (e.g. a billboard)?
There's a million ways to actually bring home this message to the Glazers with just a little inventiveness. Protesting all the way over in Manchester is not one of them.
Pretty sure the 1958 guys went out there recently leaving business cards around, like anyone even knew what it was about. You do realise over there people will probably get shot doing what youre asking
If they are not selling then each of them needs to cough up £100 million to clear THEIR debt off the club.
What's the point?
And before you say it's better than nothing, it literally isn't. They're not susceptible to protest. It's like watching Homer Simpson try and drink from a hose and end up getting water in his eye due to his tomfoolery, only over fifteen fecking years
"Maybe if we went to Florida and used our other eye..."
Given what police in that country do to innocent people, I don't think protesting at their houses is possible (or even safe), unfortunately.
Plus another £250 million each to build a new stadium, but duh they haven't got it which is why they're having to sell.
I think this is the only reason they are selling to be honest. Can't finance team sufficiently and pay for stadium refurb and borrowing in this climate isn't an option.
If they hadn't under invested in facilities over the years they'd actually not need to sell at all. Their poor management will end up costing them the club.
7-10 billion
They cant even cough up the money to plug the leaks at the stadium. Who in their right minds would go to that figure for a sports franchise. Living in cloud cucuko land.
Absolutely zero possibility of any stadium investment now (assuming these reports re 2025 are true). The Glazers would be mad to invest in infrastructure if they are planning on selling up in 2 years.
Exactly. I swear there has to be a way to make plenty of noise outside of their home(s) and yet remaining perfectly within full legality as per the First Amendment.
You make it sound like sellling isn't a good thing for them, the cashout point is literally the climax for them ever owning us, pay day. It's just how greedy they are, not that they don't want to sell.
I’m wanting eggs and bags of dogshit thrown at the windows to be honest.
Burning effigies outside of their homes, within view for the Glazers to see from their windows should be fine.
Rich people hold onto assets from which the income they derive is less than the value of selling it. These people don't buy assets to hold onto and sell a few years down the line like they're flipping a house or waiting for a classic Escort in your uncle's garage waiting for it to appreciate in value to flog on Autotrader
It's why every company isn't sold every year the second the majority shareholders realises the dividends they derive are lower than the value of the entire asset if sold and it could fund a banging holiday in Magaluf. That isn't how these people operate
So yeah, really don't think they wanted to be selling right now at all
This fiasco is now overshadowing what is happening on the pitch, a distraction that no one needs and reflects badly on the owners, but clearly, they absolutely do not care.
They're almost 20 years in now, they've grown the assest whilst investing nothing, which was obviously always the masterplan, assest infrastructure is now creeking through chronic lack of investment, so now it's clearly time to cashout.
Can't we just show PSG Ultras Glazer's address in Florida and tell them that it's Messi's new mansion?
I wasn’t actually being serious, seeing as though these parasites haven’t spent $1 of their own money in 18 fecking years.
Alex Miller is the journalist who broke the exclusive (well one of the two anyway), so he was on the news to talk about his reporting.
The stuff about how the value might increase might've been a bit more of his guesswork, but seems to reflect the batshit crazy thinking of the twats if they really think they're going to find a buyer at those numbers when they've only been able to find two buyers now, and they have then gone out of their way to burn those relationships over the last 10 months.
the only thing they care about is money. mess with their money and that might put pressure on them to sell.
We're at a point of no return now. The club is fecked. Need major investment on the playing side, as well as facilities and stadium. We're a fecking mess.
Well if he's right I think we are finished as a big club in this league. That's not kneejerk on how the season has started we just can't compete without proper investment
Gill was publicly critical of the takeover plan. Don't think fergie really understood the implications of the LBO.
I do know that, as I wasn't, but this is what the club needs, which is why this whole sale process started in the first place of course.
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