SirScholes
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Not mega positiveSweet Mary we’ve needed some positive news!
Might as wel keep greenwood now
Not mega positiveSweet Mary we’ve needed some positive news!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/23605960/qatari-takeover-man-utd-announcement-ratcliffe/
Full article here. But he said basically the same thing a week ago and nobody else reported it. Either he is breaking the biggest story of his career totally on his own, or its a load of shite.
Would be bloody great news. Greenwood out, Arnold under severe pressure and then the Glazers feck off? Too good to be true
Exactly, I don’t understand United “fans” talking like this, absolutely baffling and little wonder the Glazers couldn’t give 2 fecks what the “fans” think.
Doubt they'd give a damn, their emir will probably have more control on us than whatever this guy is.You’d think they’d be more inclined to have him front up for the cameras.
Positive for some, not for others.Not mega positive
Might as wel keep greenwood now
Like clockwork this story….
Team looks a mess requires significant upgrade.
‘Release news glazers are selling’
Shares up 7% after close, but we have seen that before
The article may be pure speculation, but it has a line in it that emphasises the fear of fan backlash as discouraging the Glazers from holding onto their shares. If this were a Glazer-pushed article, surely they wouldn't want to give any impression that fan activities and protest have any impact on their decision? Saying a fear of backlash is pushing them towards the door only eggs on those protesting.Bullshit.
Glazers leak this to try and raise share prices and detract from recent shit-show on and off the pitch coupled with planned protests.
No surprise this comes out just when protests are starting to mobilise.
Glazer bullshit. Don’t buy into it.
Neil Curtis reporting this and no one else latching onto it isn't ideal.
They'll be getting their windows put out once he guys United.Possibly completely unrelated but interesting to hear Sheikh Jassim’s dad putting up 2 london properties for sale today for a total of £1 billion. Might be lending his son a few quid.
The article may be pure speculation, but it has a line in it that emphasises the fear of fan backlash as discouraging the Glazers from holding onto their shares. If this were a Glazer-pushed article, surely they wouldn't want to give any impression that fan activities and protest have any impact on their decision? Saying a fear of backlash is pushing them towards the door only eggs on those protesting.
Exactly. Lord knows if there's any weight to the article but I think it's many things before it's a Glazer-fed story.Don't see what benefit the glazers would gain from such fake news spin. It will only create higher expectations and the inevitable disappointment and anger on the part of the fans.
Exactly. Lord knows if there's any weight to the article but I think it's many things before it's a Glazer-fed story.
Don't see what benefit the glazers would gain from such fake news spin. It will only create higher expectations and the inevitable disappointment and anger on the part of the fans.
The only other person I’ve heard talk sale is the Cardiff guy, who reckoned we were going for £7.2b.
I trust the Cardiff guy and Custis. The chancer might be right this time
Which makes sense £6bn for the glazers and the debt, £1.2/1.3bn for the 31% Minority shares, remember there are 50 million A class shares, I have a feeling the premium of $38 for the shares may end up being $33-34 which is about $1.65bn or £1.2/1.3bn, only time will tell but yepThe only other person I’ve heard talk sale is the Cardiff guy, who reckoned we were going for £7.2b.
That huge number is what many in the city thought to buy 100% of the club not 69% of the club.Which one is the chancer? The Cardiff guy was very precise with that (huge) number.
Yea can't see the benefit. Not like a big signing, tangible, to keep us quiet etcExactly. Lord knows if there's any weight to the article but I think it's many things before it's a Glazer-fed story.
I trust the Cardiff guy and Custis. The chancer might be right this time
Which one is the chancer? The Cardiff guy was very precise with that (huge) number.
I’ve got absolutely no idea if what you are saying is bollocks but I like what I’m reading.Which makes sense £6bn for the glazers and the debt, £1.2/1.3bn for the 31% Minority shares, remember there are 50 million A class shares, I have a feeling the premium of $38 for the shares may end up being $33-34 which is about $1.65bn or £1.2/1.3bn, only time will tell but yep
It’s weird that SJ Dad has put up some property in London for sale at £1bn and he was rumoured to fly over to the states 3/4 weeks ago to try and broker a deal!
This coming out today (well yesterday since it is after midnight) smells like a PR brief spinning attention. A lot of negative press on Utd over the mess of Greenwood and Richard Arnold, and the very next day we get an article stating deal will be done very soon.
I'm very sceptical as this seems like PR Spin to get attention away from Greenwood.
This coming out today (well yesterday since it is after midnight) smells like a PR brief spinning attention. A lot of negative press on Utd over the mess of Greenwood and Richard Arnold, and the very next day we get an article stating deal will be done very soon.
I'm very sceptical as this seems like PR Spin to get attention away from Greenwood.
Not strictly true, there are three phases to this type of M&A deal where the new owner has made it clear he wants to own 100% of the club and delist from the NYSE.So it won’t be able to be completed by mid October until the class A shareholders have been dealt with
It's different for Custis. News organisations like the FT, Bloomberg etc need two sources for their reports. Sports reporters don't and can run a report quicker.
they don't always need two sources where did you read that?
depends on the situation, but one solid source would usually be enough
Custis on the other hand, doesn't need any
Not strictly true, there are three phases to this type of M&A deal where the new owner has made it clear he wants to own 100% of the club and delist from the NYSE.
Phase One - Agree a sale for the controlling shares of the club, in this case due to the Debt which is guaranteed by the Glazer Family, the actual loan of £535m which is owed to Bank of America and other lenders would need to be paid off, probably as part of the £6billion fee which the Glazers have always wanted at the same time. After they have completed due diligence, various international transfer payments could be wired and confirmed in 2-3 days, whilst official bill of sale documents are prepared and signed. Let’s say this was started September 1st and completed by September 6th.
Phase Two - EPL Directors Fit and Propers Test/UEFA FFP Directors Test, Should probably have already been tested or at worst made sure their would be no issues, so a relative formality maybe this is signed off by mid September 2023.
Phase Three - SJ/92 Foundation now have control of the club, potentially by Mid to End September 23, they can now appoint their own CEO, and 3 directors to the board due to now owning the 69% controlling shares of the club, they can run the club they way they wish and make structural changes to the club, probably appointing CFO, CEO, Development Director and a new Director of Football.
The CFO will start the process of the club leaving the NYSE and write to all of the 31% Minority share holders who still have 2/3 Board Directors, explaining that they are exercising their option to offer fair enterprise share value under Cayman Island Law maybe an offer of $34-38 per share, this could cost another £1.3/1.4 billion pounds and could take 4-8 weeks so potentially Mid October to Mid November would be a target date for the Qatari’s to make the club privately owned and now 100% owned by SJ and Nine Two Foundation.