Club Sale | It’s done!

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Feck that tiny chinned feckwit. Nobody cares about him anymore. Rewarded for mediocrity of the highest level. Feckin gimp.

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Honestly I doubt it. Higher fees are due to more money coming into the league. Player spending as a % of revenue has not changed significantly over the years, and the new FSR regulations that are coming into effect will aim to ensure it stays that way.
The way Chelsea and, to a smaller extent, City are going about their business I think they are confident they can beat this in court. In the past it was just City, Chelsea and PSG but now Newcastle have joined up and it will just get harder. I am sure when Chelsea/Liverpool complete the Caicedo signing City will feel vindicated and will add one or two more big signings.

We just can't compete at that level sustainably and it's going to get harder and harder.
 
Another valid reason to say no to Qatar's state bid.

'Full sale only' equals massive reward for Glazers and proven uncertainty for United.

You are aware that there’s a massive reward for the parasites either way right ? It’s not a case of going with Ratcliffe means they’re going to be attending soup kitchens to eat.

A full sale means THE CLUB can move forward and fulfil its mammoth potential from its own earnings and stature instead of being raped and pillaged by a parasitic family that inherited the club and are so inept they’ve managed to ruin a multi billion worth asset financially, if Ratcliffe or someone else could be a saviour then that’d be lovely BUT they can’t and it’s either Qatar or the parasites.
 
Not proven at all.. don’t talk rubbish

It is proven. We see it as Qatar's psg, who often change their manager and whose marquee signings want out. Their privileged financial advantage works at home, but fails in Europe, where they couldn't even protect a two-away goal lead versus Ole.

A full sale means THE CLUB can move forward and fulfil its mammoth potential from its own earnings and stature instead of being raped and pillaged by a parasitic family that inherited the club and are so inept they’ve managed to ruin a multi billion worth asset financially, if Ratcliffe or someone else could be a saviour then that’d be lovely BUT they can’t and it’s either Qatar or the parasites.

There is no guarantee of anything. Could get better. Could get worse.

When we see United outspend City, amongst others, we realise the financial advantage is already there despite Glazerball. Seriously. They can afford winning structures now.

It's been mismanagement which is United's bane, not money. I look at both Ratcliffe and Qatar and cannot see any optimism with regards to a remedy to it.

Indeed, we are off to a good start with EtH, Murtough and Fletcher. Can it last? Not sure, but positive signs.

Both Qatar and Ineos will bring their own people in (government appointed lackies and Brailsford) and work around EtH. Buying Neymar, or Ross Barkley. Shut supporters up with cheese rooms, retractable roof and Qatarington.

Qatar and Ratcliffe are but further parasites. There is nothing to be optimistic about in either Qatar's political bid, or anything to do with Ineos.

The whole shebang is a depressing shitshow.
 
Couple of bad results in the next few weeks then the focus will be firmly back on the Glazers, and rightly so.
 
Another valid reason to say no to Qatar's state bid.

'Full sale only' equals massive reward for Glazers and proven uncertainty for United.
Eh? That's not a valid reason to make a business decision. He's loaded whatever happens sadly. The Glazers need to go end of.
 
'Full sale only' equals massive reward for Glazers and proven uncertainty for United.

I've been trying to work out what the feck you meant by this.
What certainties are there in any sale or non-sale scenario for United?

Oh, and in any sale scenario, full sale or partial, the Glazers get a massive reward. In fact, if reports are to be believed, the partial sale offer from Ratcliffe values the club slightly higher so would result in a greater reward for the Glazers.
 
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Funnily enough the economy of the transfer market this year should provide further evidence to the Glazer how increasingly unstable it is to maintain a competitive club with next to no investment and dividend deduction each season. The average highly rated talents in the league costing an average of 80M, it's absolutely not sustainable for the Glazers to use their business model heading forward. What's the trajectory going to be like over the next 5 seasons ? the landscape will look significantly worse that's not even considering the huge financial outlay that's required for the stadium and surrounding area investment needed to elevate the infrastructure.

All in all PSG's ascension to destroy value in the transfer market has been terrible for football but perhaps a blessing in disguise to the ownership situation at United.
 
Another valid reason to say no to Qatar's state bid.

'Full sale only' equals massive reward for Glazers and proven uncertainty for United.
What’s this crap! ! Any form of sale that gets rid of the Glazers will reward them handsomely, whoever buys the club either In a majority or full sale.
 
You are aware that there’s a massive reward for the parasites either way right ? It’s not a case of going with Ratcliffe means they’re going to be attending soup kitchens to eat.

A full sale means THE CLUB can move forward and fulfil its mammoth potential from its own earnings and stature instead of being raped and pillaged by a parasitic family that inherited the club and are so inept they’ve managed to ruin a multi billion worth asset financially, if Ratcliffe or someone else could be a saviour then that’d be lovely BUT they can’t and it’s either Qatar or the parasites.

A full sale at the moment means we become a state sponsored sport washing exercise.

We should be critical of all those who want to become custodians of Manchester United. Not welcoming them because we think they might give us a better chance of winning some trophies.
 
A full sale at the moment means we become a state sponsored sport washing exercise.

We should be critical of all those who want to become custodians of Manchester United. Not welcoming them because we think they might give us a better chance of winning some trophies.
So what’s the point ? Isn’t football all about winning trophies or do you want to be just competing for the morals cup every year?
 
When does anyone think the next worthwhile update be?

When I say "update", a quote that gives that tingling feeling "oh that might be true".
 
So what’s the point ? Isn’t football all about winning trophies or do you want to be just competing for the morals cup every year?
If football is all about winning trophies why are you supporting a club that's not winning them? Quite frankly, no, football is (or should be) about more than just winning trophies.
 
Forget it, it’s just not worth it.

why not?

If football is all about winning trophies why are you supporting a club that's not winning them? Quite frankly, no, football is (or should be) about more than just winning trophies.

forget it, chief, it’s not worth it, apparently.

Old Trafford is going to be volatile this season, more of the same vs Liverpool when it was boycotted and forced the ge to be abandoned.

that will need Covid and subsequent lockdowns to return. police will do rioting fans no end, a few jail sentences. with respect to us, we have supporters willing to twerk for dictatorships. any major disruption is a pipe-dream.

A full sale at the moment means we become a state sponsored sport washing exercise.

We should be critical of all those who want to become custodians of Manchester United. Not welcoming them because we think they might give us a better chance of winning some trophies.

be honest man. United fan all my life but most United supporters follow us because they think we will win every week and rule all and sundry like a King. when it doesn’t happen we are as bad as the scouse.

this is why Qatar appeal to so many supporters because it entitles their sense of entitlement. ‘morals cup’ they cry. their idea of morality is United doing whatever we want and if you disagree you are an enemy.

MUFC The Religion.

tread careful chief
 
Feck that tiny chinned feckwit. Nobody cares about him anymore. Rewarded for mediocrity of the highest level. Feckin gimp.

I can’t believe I’m actually saying this but as an employee of Glazer’s his reward makes sense.

He facilitated the club purchase in an extraordinarily beneficial way for the Glazer’s, and while he was Chief Executive he did marvellously commercially again in a way to financially bolster the Glazer’s pockets without requiring them to invest any of their own money.

Woodward was horrible at anything tangibly football related. Running a club, negotiating contracts or transfers etc etc. But as a purely financial officer the guy is a savant.

The guy won’t be anywhere near a chief exec of another football team. But you can bet your bottom dollar a lot of people who look at his stewardship from purchase to sale and will throw millions at him for employment or consultation.

I obviously dislike the bloke, but can absolutely see why the Glazer’s would love him.
 
I can’t believe I’m actually saying this but as an employee of Glazer’s his reward makes sense.

He facilitated the club purchase in an extraordinarily beneficial way for the Glazer’s, and while he was Chief Executive he did marvellously commercially again in a way to financially bolster the Glazer’s pockets without requiring them to invest any of their own money.

Woodward was horrible at anything tangibly football related. Running a club, negotiating contracts or transfers etc etc. But as a purely financial officer the guy is a savant.

The guy won’t be anywhere near a chief exec of another football team. But you can bet your bottom dollar a lot of people who look at his stewardship from purchase to sale and will throw millions at him for employment or consultation.

I obviously dislike the bloke, but can absolutely see why the Glazer’s would love him.
This is a myth. Woodward benefited from a rising tide that enriched all PL clubs, while hemorrhaging billions of the club's money and eroding our financial edge over the rest of the league in the process.
 
Nice to finally see the number of posts slowing down on the thread. Only had to go back 1 page to read 36 hours worth of posts with still no update on the horizon!
He facilitated the Glazers’ purchase of United when he was a banker. This is part of his reward for that.
To be fair, he was appointment as role of financial planning and subsequently commercial and media roles before being appointed chief exec in 2012. I don't think he'd have been given much other than a big fat bonus for his work in the take over. The shares probably come from annual bonuses for his work as chief exec from 2012-2022, which is perfectly normal for CEO's to get. Woodword's done nothing wrong in that regard and at the end of the day he's always going to have these shares so doesn't matter who the Glazers sell too, he's still going to make a killing.
 
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