They aren't necessarily in conflict, if they're negotiating granting exclusivity then Qatar can still be awaiting clarity in finding out if they've been granted exclusivity
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They aren't necessarily in conflict, if they're negotiating granting exclusivity then Qatar can still be awaiting clarity in finding out if they've been granted exclusivity
Or they just haven't got the source that Reuters had.
Also worth pointing out that some of that change was more recent than a lot of people might think - e.g. it was still illegal for two adults to perform a private, consensual homosexual act until as recently as the 1980s in Scotland and Ireland.
Everything at this point is a trigger for confirmation bias. The slightest suggestive glimmer that one side has the edge instantly sends its supporters frolicking about like Julie Andrews in the Sound of Music.
Was it? I thought I was replying to Wumminator who said that. Unless you're his alt. And it wasn't being dumb, because saying the death penalty is the sign of a repressive regime is somewhat odd when our closest ally geopolitical still has the death penalty
The circumstances bit is a difficult subject. I sort of get what he meant, he describes it as an invasion and they took over moss side, but I think it was more of the way politicians decided to integrate immigrants at the time was more of the problem. All my mum and dads family knew was that small area of Manchester and they were push out. My dad also served in the Navy, on the HMS Vanguard.
Or that the Reuters side may have jumped the gun. Confirmation bias works both ways.
I have no idea what or who they are paying, for all I know what the pay Raine might be dependent on them actually selling, TBH I don't really care!
Very much doubt that.
Jeez, all this to a lighthearted jab; irony indeed.
Listen, I get it, you're invested in one side here. I'm sorry for winding you up; I was genuinely just pointing out the biases are absolutely rampant on both sides. As I said, you're all good buddy.
You're making them out to be some shit-stirring tabloid for some reason. You genuinely come across like you have some sort of personal vendetta against them.
Confirmation bias is that the new buzzword to use against the pro-Qatar posters?
Hilarious this thread has came down to the death penalty debate.
Football, bloody hell.
Football, bloody hell.
My Dad was in for 7 years and served on HMS Bulwark for all of 6 weeks, the only ship he served on! He was an aero engineer in the Fleet Air Arm, one of his more memorable duties was the pig keeper at RNAS Abbotsinch, now Glasgow Airport, it's also where he met my Mum
Reuters are a news service, and still the only one saying one thing. And yet you're believing them without considering any alternatives because you so desperately want what they're saying to be true, instead of waiting for more information to corroborate whether it is or not. Confirmation bias would therefore be an accurate way of describing it.
That was in response to you replying to my quote of Wumminator. So it was him I was originally replying to. My reply to him was saying that it's odd telling a country to feck off til it shares our values completely when even our closest ally wouldn't pass that test.
Reuters are a very reliable news service yes. Your attempts to diminish them are a bit laughable. RMC backed the report up with their own sources.
I've considered the alternatives and they are inferior (Times) in terms of reliability and or impartiality. Matt Dickinson is briefed by INEOS.
Also, I'm not desperate for anything. I would prefer Qatar to take over but not adverse to Ratcliffe buying us either. I just want it done so we can move on.
The Art Of The Deal.
Get this lad in as a closer.
Get this lad in as a closer.
I don't actually want either party to own United, of the 2 being state owned is less preferable for me personally. But it's going to be one of them so what can we do.
You didn't wind me up at all mate. All I was doing was pointing out the double standards of one side. The other side do it too I know.
No one is diminishing Reuters. We're saying wait for more credible sources to confirm what they're saying before believing it as gospel.
Will you two just kiss already
I know it's tense in here which is why I steer well clear. But, I'm genuinely shocked at some of the racism and xenophobia from both sides.
Our fanbase has been pretty fractured since the Jose days, and it's fair to say that no matter who wins, it's going to cause further division. There's already a lot of goading and 'getting one over' going on in here as it is.
I actually just come to this thread for updates as it's pretty fecking big news. But the thread has long descended into a battlefield.
I'm not taking it as gospel. It's a very strong indicator of where this is probably heading though. That's all.
It was not, it was in response to this post, which was a reply to this from you, which again was you replying to my reply to Berbaclass.
He did a number on us mate.
Sure did. We never had such massive divisions in our fanbase until he came along.
Our fanbase has been fractured since moyes, and iirc Wumminator was one of the big instigators then too
I seem to remember him continually telling everyone "your job now is to stand by our new manager" while moyes was breaking 40 year old records by losing at home to Newcastle. Maybe I'm misremembering slightly and he didn't use that quote but he was certainly very pro moyes, and considered those who weren't lesser fans
This is contradictory as your second sentence contradicts the first. If you believe Reuters to be a credible source and aren't diminishing them why do we need to wait for 'more credible' sources? Unless I'm reading what you've posted wrong.
What sources are more credible than reuters?
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Our fanbase has been fractured since moyes, and iirc Wumminator was one of the big instigators then too
I seem to remember him continually telling everyone "your job now is to stand by our new manager" while moyes was breaking 40 year old records by losing at home to Newcastle. Maybe I'm misremembering slightly and he didn't use that quote but he was certainly very pro moyes, and considered those who weren't lesser fans
Moyes definitely had a-few fans, but nowhere near as many as Jose.
I feel the whole 'camps/sides' thing on here definitely started with Jose.
I actually don’t think those two reports are conflicting with each other. Reuters doesn’t say who the Glazers are negotiating with. It seems to me more like the Glazers intentionally assure SJ through the media channel that he is not out of the race.
The testosterone levels in here are rising tonight.
Everyone needs to chill. We all want the same for the club and that’s to challenge at the top again.
But people seem to have “picked a side” and won’t budge.
These should be exciting times yet everyone is frustrated and angry. This is what a Glazer regime does to us all.
Moyes was absolutely a huge division. Honestly if you're weren't on here at that time you can't imagine what it was like, after I think fhe league Cup knockout by Sunderland basically every game had half the fans calling for his head and others saying he needed more time. You had stewards being sent to protect the chosen one banner at old Trafford, you had fans rent a plane to fly above the stadium saying Moyes out
it barely even feels real, it was like some bizarre fever dreamIt's widely reported that the Glazers asked the psg owner for help regarding the sale. Nowhere have I seen anything about Jassim asking them about anything at all. Can you show us this information and I'll believe you but otherwise I think you're getting your wires crossed?
In regards to UTD having a better future they are the GOOD guys going by the 2 bids.
Reuters source could be the Glazers. Just because they are legit doesn't mean their stories and sources don't also have some sort of agenda. Just seems silly to start stanning for news corps, and choosing to believe one over another.
Last few days have been dry news wise which is a shame, apparently its back holiday in America on Monday so we may not expect anything before Tuesday.
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