I follow your point now. I've worded more posts horrendously than most on this board so I wont lecture you on that - but this is a very different vibe to the one i took issue with.
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I follow your point now. I've worded more posts horrendously than most on this board so I wont lecture you on that - but this is a very different vibe to the one i took issue with.
I think they're an aggregator.
If we just waited for Reuters and official club sources, this thread would be about 20 pages
Pexbo was joking. I did nothing.
People will try to claim they are, but probably not. I don't think anybody really knows. The truth is probably nothing like what we are led to believe.
If Andrew Neil is saying it must be true.
Just a quick question.
Where is the proof that Sheikh Jassims bid is state backed ?
Or is it just an assumption ?
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Could be just repeating Reuters, though the framing is slightly different. They're certainly not a 'joke' service.
Apparently it’s run by a Doctor from Melbourne. Not sure about it. Plus this random bit of history
In 2017, the website Africa Check reported that the Spectator Index tweeted false statistics about the frequency of rapes committed in South Africa.[2] Africa Check also reported that the Spectator Index had misreported the suicide rate in Nigeria.[3]
Statistics tweeted by the Spectator Index have also been used by Pakistani media to declare India 'the most unsafe place to live'.[4] Pakistan-based news site ARY News described the Spectator Index as 'a renowned ratings agency
If they’re reporting that then what exactly is their remit?
Reuters and AFP didn’t say much differently and just worded it differently, Reuters said Qatar and the parasites are working on exclusivity whilst AFP said that Qatar are waiting on clarification so they’re working on it and waiting for clarification on a decision based on what both have said.
We need Jassim, Jim and Avram on a Twitter space. Live negotiation.
Repeating Reuters?
Tell that to the sweatshops and factories ran like prisons by the likes of Apple and Nike. Plus let's not forget companies like Walmart.
The sad part is the rules are in place but they somehow seem to be meant to be broken.
Again not saying what they are doing is ok I'm any shape or form.
Deciding not to address human rights issues is not neutral Sultan. It's a proactive decision. Everyone is entitled to do what they like but I alway grimace at the apolitical stance when power dynamics are so disproportionate.
While it may not be chattel slavery, to be unaware of it this whole process is not being neutral.
The workers do have rights. However, they could be easily flaunted. The perpetrators could be getting away without repercussions if they know the right channels. The ex-pats are very well served and looked after and given all the benefits they get in the West and more. Workers from countries such as India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Philipines and certain African countries are paid according to their countries' standards and treated on the same lines as back home. At least this is my past my experience.
I know for a fact things are changing rapidly for the better. This is from a member of a family who lives in Qatar.
I say Qatar because I think it's important to acknowledge that this is a takeover by the Qatari state with the aim of furthering the interests of the Qatari state. The chosen frontman and the name picked for his group feel much less relevant than that.
Whereabouts are these sweat shops in Europe? Could do with a pair of Jordans
Abdul come closer, Abdul go back…..
yeah, repeating the Reuters report, in so many words. Is it the alliteration?Repeating Reuters?
And your proof for that ?
I'm genuinely asking because so as of now I haven't seen any solid proof from anyone that this is a bid from the Qatari state, It all seems an assumption that if an Arab has money it must mean he's backed by the state.
Not being a moron probably
Whataboutism aside, that was in the past. Nike factories are now audited and inspected by human rights watch groups. If Qatar were willing to make genuine changes like that it'd be a different story.
Routers are not a good source of information
Where would these sweat shops and factories be located?
Unplugging mine would probably improve things.
Agree completely. Tarring everyone with the same brush is dodgy as feck.
There were MANY things about the Qatar WC that I found really fecked up but I’m not gonna project any one of them onto Jassim until he himself does any of them.
It’s even longer than LvG’s (his name I mean, we all know van Gaal has a massive cock).That’s not how I read it, but I get that it’s a very nuanced subject so not saying someone else couldn’t have got a different vibe from it. I got more of a more ‘let’s unite again’ vibe from it, which I really think we need right now.
That sounds ‘ducking’ annoying…
You can't prove a non-fact- but you can produce 100s of pages of conjecture, because obviously middle eastern wealth is somehow 'different' to western funds, despite the fact that they 're both more or less connected directly or by one degree to some section of the formal ruling class..
Reuters never said that
Unfortunately I think the spectator index are just poorly referencing the Reuters piece
There are no slaves in Qatar.
Could you not tell I was being sarcastic with the poster? Yes, there are big issues but they need not be magnified to such an extent to call out Qatar being a state who still trades in slaves. There's plenty that can be said without resorting to untruths and name-calling.
It's not that they aren't "good" but you'd expect this level of a breakthrough to be brought by Bloomberg for example or at least collaborated by other peer sources in the financial world.
The fact that it isn't and also that BBC Economics editor has clarified the reuters clever wording in the article shows that they have jumped the gun a bit, but they are confident in the risk.
The really top sources (like Bloomberg) likely wait for a bigger degree of accuracy before breaking the information of exclusivity or new owner etc.
I don't see many people championing Radcliffe as some kind of saint. It's more an objection to the cheer leading for the Qatari bid.
It's so weird.
I was certain this was a state bid from day one but from the way this has been conducted I have got doubts about it, one of the downfalls of this is that their will always be some doubt over who owns us.
I could honestly care less about who wins actually. I just want it to be done, Jim or the Qataris....
I just find it quite funny that people always assume that an Arab has money because he got it from petrol and the state, as if there's no way an Arab can have nothing to do with the state and have money. The Middle East has 187 billionaires I suppose all of them run the country and decide on whether homosexuality is legal or not
If it was state backed this would have been wrapped up a while ago....
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