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To be fair for some strange reason, western media have been more worried about social issues in Qatar than comparatively war crimes in Yemen. So it's not that surprising to see someone be in favor of Saudi Arabia while having a tough stance against Qatar.

Shush don't mention Yemen! The UK media don't want to open that can of hypocrisy!
 
I know it's not the point, but is there actually a rush for this to be done now?

Surely there's an awful lot of work to be done even when/if a preferred bidder is annouced, so the summer transfer window is going to come too soon now, and will just need to be got on with at this point.

I'd like to think they'll just stick £100 million + sales on the club credit card and get on with things whilst all this is going on in the background.

Yeah at some point they are going to have to make some moves because like you say this is going to take time
 
What do people make of his comments

The comments are obvious, and the notion was ridiculous in the first place. In all likelihood, there is crown backing for Jassim’s bid, but the 2+2 of the British media to conclude that Khalaifi being asked to have a word is somehow ‘evidence of state involvement’ is ridiculous. It’s simplistic analogy based on little more than the fact that they are compatriots. I mean, it doesn’t even make sense in the context of their own assertions. How can the fact that Al-Khalaifi has been asked to persuade the named bidder to increase to an acceptable amount (which he has not done) evidence anything other than the fact that Jassim is in control of this bid?

If Ratcliffe speaks to an MP, which he may well do, does that become evidence of the British State being behind the bid?
 
The comments are obvious, and the notion was ridiculous in the first place. In all likelihood, there is crown backing for Jassim’s bid, but the 2+2 of the British media to conclude that Khalaifi being asked to have a word is somehow ‘evidence of state involvement’ is ridiculous. It’s simplistic analogy based on little more than the fact that they are compatriots. I mean, it doesn’t even make sense in the context of their own assertions. How can the fact that Al-Khalaifi has been asked to persuade the named bidder to increase to an acceptable amount (which he has not done) evidence anything other than the fact that Jassim is in control of this bid?

If Ratcliffe speaks to an MP, which he may well do, does that become evidence of the British State being behind the bid?

So you don't think he's just denying being involved to throw media a curveball then
 
So you don't think he's just denying being involved to throw media a curveball then

He doesn’t even need to deny anything. The British media themselves were very clear in what they alleged the extent of his involvement to have been. It is to help persuade a bidder to increase his bid. So fecking what, even if true? That point is only of significance (to some) because both are from Qatar. If they had known each other in a different capacity, friends, former colleagues for example - Glazers asking a mutual to persuade them to up the bid would have zero relevance.

Both Glazers and Khalaifi are club owners. They likely know each other, and they know that Khalaifi knows Jassim presumably from back home. The request is logical.
 
Well he doesn't deny most of what has been reported does he.

Not sure how significant it is, but I'd doubt he'd be offering the Glazers his experience if Saudi Arabia were trying to buy us.

Yeah just proof of how good journo Ornstein is. He and Stone aren't as pro Ratcliffe like many of their colleagues
 
What do people make of his comments
Whole thing just doesnt feel like positive news. Feels more like Ornstein sat on it until now and decided to break it, with a bit of clickbait intended like failing to mention it happened a month ago, and put it behind a paywall.
 
We all want that though.

Some people just don't like us being a marketing tool for a country that doesn't treat women, gay people and migrants as equal human beings because of some BS in a made up book.

If this stuff was happening closer to home it would be causing more of a storm too. Ultimately people just don't care because these people are thousands of miles away and out of sight.

I get what your saying, but if Chelsea fans could vote to bring Abramovich back they would.

The USA keep passing backwards policies and our own country is a bit of a joke too.

In my mind the world has much bigger problems than Qatar so I’m quite happy to separate the state from the football if they’re the only ones offering to remove the parasites in full, now.
 
What do people make of his comments
He’s not denying helping and Ornstein didn’t say anything more than that really.
The big take away are the Glazers seemingly wanting a full sale. It’s completely changed the narrative now
 
Well he doesn't deny most of what has been reported does he.

Not sure how significant it is, but I'd doubt he'd be offering the Glazers his experience if Saudi Arabia were trying to buy us.
Al-Khelaifi didn't offer the Glazers his experience.

It was the Glazers who initiated contact, and Al-Khelaifi dismissed them out-of-hand. If anything, the fact QSI disassociated themselves from Jassim lends credence to the idea that it's a private bid. Al-Khelaifi (and therefore the Qatari state) doesn't appear to control the 92 Foundation based on this article. The lines of communication between 92F and QSI don't appear to be there by default, which would be strange if it was indeed a state bid.

If the Glazers for some reason decided to ask the UK government for help with the Ratcliffe bid and got told they had nothing to do with it, you wouldn't be able to reasonably construct a link out of that either. All you could infer from that is that the Glazers are idiots.
 
What are the latest reports on whether the Qatar bid is state backed.
Surely majority of United fans are against it if that is the case?

Personally I really don’t care if the Qatar bid is state backed. If it was the first state bid, then yes, but that horse bolted long ago.

My criticisms of City and PSG are not that they are state backed, but the fact that they blatantly cheated FFP rules.
 
Whole thing just doesnt feel like positive news. Feels more like Ornstein sat on it until now and decided to break it, with a bit of clickbait intended like failing to mention it happened a month ago, and put it behind a paywall.

He doesn't strike me as clickbait journo
 
He’s not denying helping and Ornstein didn’t say anything more than that really.
The big take away are the Glazers seemingly wanting a full sale. It’s completely changed the narrative now

So in other words the narrative has moved away from the prospect of that Ratcliffe offer which would say both of the leeches stay
 
Personally I really don’t care if the Qatar bid is state backed. If it was the first state bid, then yes, but that horse bolted long ago.

My criticisms of City and PSG are not that they are state backed, but the fact that they blatantly cheated FFP rules.

It's worth saying that PSG and City aren't in the same bag when it comes to FFP. City are accused of cheating and hiding it through a myriad of fake companies, PSG like many other clubs are currently in breach of the break even rules but they are not hiding it and previously the were accused on having an inflated sponsorship agreement with QTA which was also not hidden and was revised by the UEFA.
 
The suggestion Ratcliffe doesn't see this as an investment needs scrutiny. You don't pile on billions of pounds of debt buying a business you're going to run for a laugh. Or even a 'legacy project'. That might be what the spin to get fans onside wants everyone to believe but Ratcliffe wouldn't be in this unless he believed in the long term there was profit to be made from us.
Can’t agree with you. A man’s hobbies are usually in proportion to his wealth. using fishing as an example, a man of little or no means might likely fish for fun on a pier or bridge or nearby lake. A middle class man might own a boat that he takes to the lake or sea. A millionaire might take a vacation every year to a luxury fishing camp/resort in an exotic location, whereas the billionaire might buy 10,000 acres of land so he can have his own stretch of a river he wants to fish on…
 
Personally I really don’t care if the Qatar bid is state backed. If it was the first state bid, then yes, but that horse bolted long ago.

My criticisms of City and PSG are not that they are state backed, but the fact that they blatantly cheated FFP rules.
Personally I would be very worried if it really wasn't state backed, because all kinds of new questions and concerns will need to be asked. Like where the money is coming from. Really doubt some unknown kid could have that much money without family help. Not even the people in Qatar have heard of his achievements, which is kind of odd. All this time we were assuming its the state of Qatar buying us which should guarantee success. But if it really is coming from a rogue son of the ruling family then we are fecked.
 
Personally I would be very worried if it really wasn't state backed, because all kinds of new questions and concerns will need to be asked. Like where the money is coming from. Really doubt some unknown kid could have that much money without family help. Not even the people in Qatar have heard of his achievements, which is kind of odd. All this time we were assuming its the state of Qatar buying us which should guarantee success. But if it really is coming from a rogue son of the ruling family then we are fecked.

Who are you talking about? He is the son of the previous prime minister, his businesses are his father's. Both are more than known.
 
Yes.

Relax croads, have faith. It’s happening.

Remember the Fergie years motto…? BELIEVE.

What is your personal take on PSG guy comments,presumably you believe this is state backed bid as Jassim only meant to be worth around just over £1.2bn
 
Looks like Glazers are playing it perfectly for themselves and making Jassim desperate. Ultimately, it’s easy for a sovereign state to throw around an extra billion or too. Especially because they will get an online troll army for free who are happy to do endless amount of whataboutery. This forum is Exhibit A.
 
Who are you talking about? He is the son of the previous prime minister, his businesses are his father's. Both are more than known.
The people who briefed the DM hadn't actually met him, and were just reading from a script. Other than sitting on the board of the Bank of Islam, nobody knows where he made his fortune. The Qatari peole only know as much as their media reports about them, so I'm guessing it's almost zilch regarding this particular son.
 
I remember the launch day of channel 4. As a kid I was hoping more kids programmes, but instead it just seemed like a load of politics, news and Armenian cartoons about a bloke locked up in prison. Then pob came along :lol:
I remember my older brother wanted to watch a film about some girls who supported Tottenham , it was a film, a rare thing in those days.
 
The people who briefed the DM hadn't actually met him, and were just reading from a script. Other than sitting on the board of the Bank of Islam, nobody knows where he made his fortune. The Qatari peole only know as much as their media reports about them, so I'm guessing it's almost zilch regarding this particular son.

I’m from here and everyone knows how he made his money. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
 
Looks like Glazers are playing it perfectly for themselves and making Jassim desperate. Ultimately, it’s easy for a sovereign state to throw around an extra billion or too. Especially because they will get an online troll army for free who are happy to do endless amount of whataboutery. This forum is Exhibit A.

Well we will see how desperate he is
 
I’m from here and everyone knows how he made his money. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Sounds like you know more than the media, why haven't they interviewed you?

So how did he make his billions, enough to afford to buy us without state backing?
 
I’m from here and everyone knows how he made his money. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

If I understand it correctly several of his sons and at least one daughter have been investment "partners" with Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim? The source of their wealth or the potential financial insurances would come from him and he is more than well-known. The one thing I don't know is if they have investments that are totally independent from their father.

In fact he talked about the prospect of such investment from his son, in an interview with Bloomberg, it's behind a paywall though.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...otball-fan-as-son-chases-man-united#xj4y7vzkg
 
I’m from here and everyone knows how he made his money. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
We need some thread-specific user tags. Some of the takes are so wide of the mark (and wild) but what makes it hilarious is how some of these people are so sure of themselves.

Just like that Nou Camp guy :lol:
 
Sounds like you know more than the media, why haven't they interviewed you?

So how did he make his billions, enough to afford to buy us without state backing?

The press knows and he made his money with his father and his father made his money with the previous Emir who is/was his childhood friend on top of being cousins.
 
The Boy Jassim's Friday deadline has come and gone. He's left his offer on the table and walked away. There's no point in talking about him anymore, he's out of this process. I'm sure Qatar will be back in for another PL club at some point, one that is a lot cheaper and a more viable option for their sportwashing project.
 
The Boy Jassim's Friday deadline has come and gone. He's left his offer on the table and walked away. There's no point in talking about him anymore, he's out of this process. I'm sure Qatar will be back in for another PL club at some point, one that is a lot cheaper and a more viable option for their sportwashing project.

How is leaving the offer on the table a sign he has walked away and out of the process
 
The Boy Jassim's Friday deadline has come and gone. He's left his offer on the table and walked away. There's no point in talking about him anymore, he's out of this process. I'm sure Qatar will be back in for another PL club at some point, one that is a lot cheaper and a more viable option for their sportwashing project.
Promote this man, not to full member but forum ITK.
 
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