Club Sale | It’s done!

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Not necessarily. Could be that some or all of the Glazers want to remain.

Whatever the reason if the Qatari’s can’t get a deal done then whatever PR they leak is completely irrelevant and no point in anyone pining for a pipe dream.
 
@Berbaclass how confident do you remain that Jassim will buy the club and remove all Glazers?

Are you starting to waiver slightly given the apparent signs that it’s all going in the Brexit Rat’s direction?

And if they don’t sell to Jassim, do you think he / Qatar will buy another PL club, and if so, who would your estimate be?
 
I'm responding to your post dismissing human rights abuses as nothing. They aren't really though.

And if you think that Jassim's bid is just him as an individual then you're surely aware of your own cognitive dissonance. It is not possible that the 92 foundation is funded by anyone other than the Qatari state, for multiple reasons.
I still can’t get my head around how the Qatari state worth hundreds of billions would back out over small change for them. I have said it a few times but Utd are the ultimate sports washing dream. The dick swinging contest in the gulf states would be another factor. They would love to get one over on City and Newcastles owners.
 
So what he never came for one round of initial talks, do you honestly think people of his stature attend every meeting for every business acquisition? Do you think Ratcliffe attends every meeting for every acquisition Ineos makes? Obviously not. They delegate experts like SJ did, Jim was only there in person because it's good publicity in his home country, not saying he doesn't want the club but he was defintely maximising any PR from it. I totally get it but what SJ did is standard practice, to suggest he's not committed because he wasn't there in person is hysterical nonsense. No one would care if it wasn't for the British media shouting about it.

I said nothing about Jassim’s commitment because he’s not really stated it or showed intention outside of a third party brief press release.

He may do everything and more, but what I was trying to suggest is they BOTH have question marks about them when fans of either tend to speak in absolutes.
 
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So do you think that the people involved in the 92 Foundation are likely to have murdered or sexually abused young people directly like Harold Shipman or Jimmy Saville?

It's not the same thing.

No, I compared your dismissal of Qatari human rights abuses to a hypothetical dismissal of other heinous crimes.

You like twisting things out of the point, don't you? I mean, my comparison was fairly obvious? What could be your possible reason to muddy waters? Hmmm.
 
I still can’t get my head around how the Qatari state worth hundreds of billions would back out over small change for them. I have said it a few times but Utd are the ultimate sports washing dream. The dick swinging contest in the gulf states would be another factor. They would love to get one over on City and Newcastles owners.

I'm speculating, but my guess is that the Glazers or the Raine group have doubts over the Qataris passing the ownership test.
 
I'm speculating, but my guess is that the Glazers or the Raine group have doubts over the Qataris passing the ownership test.

Or the Glazers stand to make more in the long run by remaining on board with Ratcliffe. How much more, I could not guess, but would it really be that much?
 
No, I compared your dismissal of Qatari human rights abuses to a hypothetical dismissal of other heinous crimes.

You like twisting things out of the point, don't you? I mean, my comparison was fairly obvious? What could be your possible reason to muddy waters? Hmmm.
I’ve given my thoughts on human rights abuses many times in the thread.
 
Without question.

The easy test is to imagine if news had broken last Summer that Ratcliffe was to take control of the club immediately with the Glazers remaining before being phased out entirely over a few years.

All the people acting hysterical and criticising Ratcliffe now would be hailing him as a saviour.

What's different now? Qatar. That's it.
Well, not so much Qatar specifically as the opportunity to see off the parasitical Glazers once and for all, whilst clearing all of Manchester United's crippling debt in one fell swoop.
 


I cant stand them. The fecking leeches never have the courage to go to OT, the rats come to London in finals and run away like cowards.
 
No. That article last night isn’t really anything different. Same structure just different in terms of who gets what on the Glazer side.

Your resolve is admirable.

I’m strongly starting to question whether the Glazers actually ever wanted a full sale though.

Choosing to sell or remain is a huge decision and they’re business cowards and ditherers at the best of times.

I think they’ll basically just cling to Utd forever as though it’s their parent figure - suckling what they can from it.

I don’t see them having the ambition or initiative to move on.
 
Or the Glazers stand to make more in the long run by remaining on board with Ratcliffe. How much more, I could not guess, but would it really be that much?
Depends how big the pie gets. A smaller slice of a much bigger pie could net them more than is on offer right now.

In other news it’s lunchtime and I’m hungry :lol:
 
What I find most remarkable is how we didnt get a brief from the Qatari camp immediately following the release of the FT article. You would have thought someone like Mike Keegan who was pretty much all over the Qatari news earlier on in the proceedings woud have chimed up with something but the ony counter balances to that news is random accounts who dont exactly have credibility. It does seem like Jim Glazer has done it- Getting in bed with his fellow rats, fitting tbh considering his surname has Rat in it.
 
I’m strongly starting to question whether the Glazers actually ever wanted a full sale though.
Could be the case. I remember Avi was doorstepped by a journo when the review was announced late last year and was pressed about the ‘sale’. His reply was very pointed about not necessarily being a full sale and possibly only investment.
ETH said something at the start about being assured it would only mean more investment for the club and the squad. Didn’t sound at the time like a sale was on the cards.
The Qataris all or nothing stance could really be shooting themselves in the foot.
 
Haha amazing. I now have mental images of him squinting into his old desktop screen on go daddy or square space with a copy of ‘HTML for dummies’ on his lap, wondering what to do with his widgets!! :lol:

Haha, reading a book on 'HTML for dummies' sounds par for the course with this lot.

Honestly he can't be worse than Joel who claimed in that same article that he has a 'knack for analytics'.
Yes Joel, you were so smart in knocking back those deals for Haaland, Caicedo, Thiago, etc.
Joel Glazer's existence is an insult to data scientists and data analysts.
 
Could be the case. I remember Avi was doorstepped by a journo when the review was announced late last year and was pressed about the ‘sale’. His reply was very pointed about not necessarily being a full sale and possibly only investment.
ETH said something at the start about being assured it would only mean more investment for the club and the squad. Didn’t sound at the time like a sale was on the cards.
The Qataris all or nothing stance could really be shooting themselves in the foot.
It's a negotiation stance mate. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Could be the case. I remember Avi was doorstepped by a journo when the review was announced late last year and was pressed about the ‘sale’. His reply was very pointed about not necessarily being a full sale and possibly only investment.
ETH said something at the start about being assured it would only mean more investment for the club and the squad. Didn’t sound at the time like a sale was on the cards.
The Qataris all or nothing stance could really be shooting themselves in the foot.

Yeah, when you step back and look at it, I think the writing was on the wall the whole time.

You’ve also got the Qatar leaks that they’re not even sure IF the Glazers even want to sell (!?) and that they’ve not been kept in contact from Raine.

I think people have been convinced that the Glazers are using Brexit Rat to get a better deal from Qatar, but haven’t really considered that they could equally be using Qatar to get a better situation for themselves from Ratcliffe…

I respect the Qatar stance on wanting the whole club though. Why would anyone want to run the club with the Glazers in the background?

If I was a multi billionaire I wouldn’t even entertain the idea, at any club.
 


I cant stand them. The fecking leeches never have the courage to go to OT, the rats come to London in finals and run away like cowards.


They’re all crawling out from Mordor now (The Glazer not his wife and kids)

All of a sudden they want to show up at matches. Has this one ever even been to watch the club?

I’ve never disliked people I don’t know as much as I do the glazers.
 
It’s crazy where this started off and how it’s gradually increased to 6 billion being their target

You’ve got to wonder even if £6b was the binow, they’d take it.
They’re all crawling out from Mordor now (The Glazer not his wife and kids)

All of a sudden they want to show up at matches. Has this one ever even been to watch the club?

I’ve never disliked people I don’t know as much as I do the glazers.

Wishful thinking they are all here to rubber stamp the bid which will see them feck off.
 
Does anyone actually know the last time Bryan Glazer actually went to a United game? This fella turns up even less than Avram and Joel. Baffling. Hopefully just trying to savour a piece of the ownership before it's sold.
 


Mustafa is a known football commentator in Qatar, He is saying that from all the circulating news in Qatar that everything is done but will be announced after the final.
 
Does anyone actually know the last time Bryan Glazer actually went to a United game? This fella turns up even less than Avram and Joel. Baffling. Hopefully just trying to savour a piece of the ownership before it's sold.
Good sign that they're fecking off
 
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