This. There is nothing daft about these cnuts. They may know feck all about football but they are very much switched on to this.
They are draining every last cent out of this.
Club Sale | It’s done!
- Thread starter JB08
- Start date
- Status
This. There is nothing daft about these cnuts. They may know feck all about football but they are very much switched on to this.
They are draining every last cent out of this.
A 6b takeover takes time especially one whose build up on name rather then business sense
Its evident that 6b is the magic number and they would preferably get them now. The trouble is that United aren't worth 6b which is why its being bought for either greenwashing or sportswashing purposes. However still 6b is alot of money and way beyond United's value
Arnold and Murtough will probably go irrespective who becomes the owner. Jassim would probably want to change the darn thing while SJR loves change (Lausanne) and got his fingers burnt when he didn't change (Nice). If its a full sale then I think that Arnold will leave as soon as the ink had dried while Murtough might survive the summer.
I am not surprised at all. United is not worth 6b. Sure its a huge brand name with ample potential but have to put billions in it first. Currently its losing money, its infrastructure needs huge investment and so does its squad. So you have to forgive INEOS/QATAR for not wanting to pay stupid money on something that will need stupid money to resurrect.
Yup. Squeezing every penny.
That's basically it. The Glazers know both buyers do not want to lose out on owning United. Having two such buyers gives them the perfect scenario to try for a premium price. They only get one chance to extract the maximum value for United.
I think they can afford to hold out until even after the cup final. It won't even be in their minds about ruining next season on the pitch, especially if we get top 4 secured
I think they can afford to hold out until even after the cup final. It won't even be in their minds about ruining next season on the pitch, especially if we get top 4 secured
Think you might be giving them too much credit. They probably have good advisors alright, but to think that they have a good business acumen is highly speculative.
Agreed. Besides it's only two bidders for the entire glazer stake. I'm sure they hoped for a couple more bidders.
I really don’t like them at all, but I do wonder how do you think they not very good at doing business when they are in this position?
Daddy was a good business man?
Not pointing this at anyone specifically because I agree with you but people would probably claim it was their dad who might’ve been ol Logan Roy, with all his kids falling over themselves in the boardroom.
He does my fecking head in.
I'm genuinely thinking we're going to hear this is going to a 4th Round of bids.
What do you mean. Living off daddys investments? How can you give them credit for that. They are selling the club because it has been ran into the ground. Please don't give them credit for whoring Utd out to the highest bidder.
Some of the kids are good in business in their own right. Some of the businesses left have been run into the ground so probably not all of them are
They shouldn't. At 6b and with so much investment needed, the club make zero business sense. Thus unless some super rich guy decided to enter football for the first time (ex Musk) then the club could only be sold for political issues (ex sportwashing/greenwashing). Most of the oil rich countries already own an EPL club while Dubai/Kuwait has yet to show solid interest in buying a football club. This leaves us with qatar, ineos and possibly dubai
I’m sure of it yeah. Just weird’ish feeling strongly either way about thinking we de facto know who’s good at business and who isn’t. I do think the Glazers are clueless in running a football club though, yet they’re still making billions out of it
Man City is their Club already .
Abu dhabi and dubai are two different cities
It's the the same Nation UAE , Abu Dhabi is the capital City .
As he explained to you, they're two different cities. Different Emirates.
Thanks I missed that part So there is possibility most big Clubs in Pl could end owned by Sovereign funds .
More needed for the ones needing sportswashing imo.
Seems like the US financial institutions get an easier ride. Their whole ethos is profit, Glazer's being the poster boys.
Arsenal Stan Kroenke
Aston Villa Wesley Edens
Bournemouth William P. Foley
Chelsea Todd Boehly
Crystal Palace John Textor
Fulham Shahid Khan
Leeds United 49ers Enterprise
Liverpool John W. Henry
Manchester City Silver Lake
Manchester United The Glazers
And possibly Everton.
Hahahaha. He is awful, isn’t he?
Tbf, I don't ever think the club will ever run into obscurity. Even over the last 10 years, we've been more successful than most (in terms of trophies and finishes in the table.)
We should be doing more obviously but 99% of English clubs would do unspeakable things to have the decade (post Fergie) that we've just had.
Looking beyond the football, It's definitely worth exploring the wider ramifications of a Qatari state takeover. Especially in the current political and social climate. It just requires a bit more than screaming "But they'll buy loads of players" and "Western Governments are bad too."
The amount of land currently owned by Abu Dhabi is crazy. The whole "they'll invest in the local community" angle means nothing if people can't afford to live there. This is certainly worth a read https://www.theguardian.com/comment...english-city-sold-abu-dhabis-elite-manchester
And another thing that people tend to ignore. What happens in 5/10/20 years time if relations go sour and Qatar find themselves as pariahs on the political scene? What happens when assets get stripped? Everyone was still happy with Russia as early as 2018 and look what happened there. Look at how dangerously close Chelsea were to falling into oblivion last season.
Same. Chats utter shite while trying to come across as some kind of ultra intelligent *********** or something.
But they're not the American government. That's the main issue at play here.
Harsh on @VeevaVee
6 months to sell a business the size of Manchester United is not long. Although very frustrating. And you wonder why they set the first deadline to end of March....They should have announced the sale in August or early September.
Sure, but the US is a little more sophisticated. Imagine the outrage if they were German or French entities, no doubt questions in Parliament.
Strange that these groups are free to roam in the Premier League and yet US sports governing bodies would regulate their finance and operations, such as the Glazer debt dumping.
I don’t see how the minority investment was ever anything more than a tactic to get Qatar and Ratcliffe to up their bids as the Glazer’s can’t sustain United as shown over the last few years and minority investment wouldn’t fix the problems, no minority investor is going to come in and throw a load of money into the club then allow the parasites to continue running things as that’d be no different to simply setting their cash on fire.
If anything they’re simply trying to squeeze every last penny out of Qatar and Ratcliffe as this is a once in a lifetime deal that could potentially net them all $1 billion each even if they don’t deserve a fecking penny after rinsing the club since they all came along.
From the breakdown in the bids that I saw someone post in here there’s barely over £100 million between the bids so I think as soon as Qatar match the figure Ratcliffe has this’ll be done as that’ll be paid in one lump rather than over 3-4 years and only potential value based on share prices at that time, it’s a stall tactic to extract that last bit from Qatar.
We should keep McTominay purely for this reason. Oil him up and send him on to the pitch so he can shout "There's nary an animal alive that can outrun a greased up Scotsman" using his best Willie impersonation.If Jassim does buy us I hope someone does this, this is hilarious
Except these idiots think if they hang on long enough the club will be worth 10bn one day. So they think they can get paid now on an investment and then down the road cash in big when the club is valued at 10bn. They are also still desperately clinging to the terrible idea of a super league, they want to be 1 of the founding members of it. That's what's keeping them from selling 100%
It won't double even without them. The premium they're selling it for has it valued at 6bn but the share price only has it at 3bn, its never going to be near 12bn
Oh goody have the Glazers finally made a decision then.?
To think we actually had glazers apologists in caf few years ago...
I'm soo sorry.
Yes. Their decision is to dither some more.
- Status