Yeah just when you think we have heard the last of minority investment Ornstein pops up
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Yeah just when you think we have heard the last of minority investment Ornstein pops up
I've no idea why anyone would try to claim that Man City isn't a state club.
Their owner, Sheikh Mansour, is the current vice president of the UAE, his brother is the president. Really couldn't be much clearer.
Newcastle are also a state club - owned by the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia.
Meanwhile, Sheikh Jassim does not hold any government role in Qatar and never has. His father has TBF but left that role 10yrs ago.
What was his dad's role?
He keeps them on then sure as hell needs to address the debt situation and stadium investment straight away. Still won't sit well though because got doubts they spend
Avram and Joel want out.
Who pays more is the question.
Who pays more is the question.
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edit - was just looking at his wikipedia and saw this
In June 2022, The Times reported that between 2011 and 2015 Prince Charles accepted €3 million in cash from Hamad.[33] The funds were said to be in the form of €500 notes, handed over in person in three tranches, in a suitcase, holdall and Fortnum & Mason carrier bags.[33][34] Charles' meetings with Hamad did not appear in the Court Circular.[33] Coutts collected the cash and each payment was deposited into the accounts of The Prince of Wales's Charitable Fund.[34] A Clarence House spokesperson stated that the appropriate covenants were carried out, and it was the "donor's choice" to make the donations in cash, after which the trustees "discussed the governance and donor relationship" and the auditors "signed off on the donation after a specific enquiry during the audit".[34] There is no evidence that the payments were illegal or that it was not intended for the money to go to the charity.[34] The Charity Commission for England and Wales announced they would review the information and determine if "there is any role for the Commission in this matter".[35]
Sounds like the kinda man who has some strong connections to the state. Perhaps even strong enough that if he wanted to help his son buy a football club, some money would be sent his way to help facilitate it.prime minister
edit - was just looking at his wikipedia and saw this
In June 2022, The Times reported that between 2011 and 2015 Prince Charles accepted €3 million in cash from Hamad.[33] The funds were said to be in the form of €500 notes, handed over in person in three tranches, in a suitcase, holdall and Fortnum & Mason carrier bags.[33][34] Charles' meetings with Hamad did not appear in the Court Circular.[33] Coutts collected the cash and each payment was deposited into the accounts of The Prince of Wales's Charitable Fund.[34] A Clarence House spokesperson stated that the appropriate covenants were carried out, and it was the "donor's choice" to make the donations in cash, after which the trustees "discussed the governance and donor relationship" and the auditors "signed off on the donation after a specific enquiry during the audit".[34] There is no evidence that the payments were illegal or that it was not intended for the money to go to the charity.[34] The Charity Commission for England and Wales announced they would review the information and determine if "there is any role for the Commission in this matter".[35]
I've heard the Charles story a few times but never the €500 notes detail before. I can't say I even knew such existed.
This is where I am. It's too bad we will get set back by this window but the big picture is still intact. Just get them the feck outta here.
Except he doesn't need any help because he's one of the richest men in the world
I don't think he is. Not rich enough to spend a good few billion on purchasing and then further investing in a football club.
Wake me up when we're actually sold. I'm utterly fed up of this now. Wouldn't surprise me if some reason Glazers are waiting to see if we quality for the CL.
It truly is amazing what the Glazers have done to the Caf and their hatred of debt. Does anyone here have a mortgage on their house? 
Ratcliffe or Qatar will have enough money to invest in the club in many ways post takeover. We just need those stains gone.
Ratcliffe or Qatar will have enough money to invest in the club in many ways post takeover. We just need those stains gone.
Nice is doing better in Ligue 1 than Troyes. Who is Troyes owner? Sheikh Mansour.
It truly is amazing what the Glazers have done to the Caf and their hatred of debt. Does anyone here have a mortgage on their house?
Ratcliffe or Qatar will have enough money to invest in the club in many ways post takeover. We just need those stains gone.
Yes we have mortgages but not interest only ones. I certainly change the boiler , maintained the roof in fact i replaced it 2 years ago.. Did the extension thing and new double glazing and had the driveway landscape. It really helped with my valuation. The guy across the road hasn't done anything in 15 years probably worth half of what mine is. This is the actual situation but kinda relevant.
I guess that’s next season fecked. Let’s just get rid of the scum .
Flipping brilliant. Is there any restriction with regards to a size of a banner? Were those banners brought in secretly or is one allowed to put an anti-Glazer banner?
Understood mate.
Yeah could see that happening and therefore screwing up Erik's plan for next season
Not fair Erik gets hamstrung when the whole sale farce is nothing to do with him
Quick question don’t know if anyone can answer this but if the new owner comes in and clears the debt would that make it possible, under FFP rules, to spend more money in the transfer window?
Well only need to look at Newcastle spending to see FFP regulations (City apart) are getting much tighter. Howe even references it when talking about transfers which is telling
Always feels good to know your club is fecked for next season when the current season hasn’t even ended. A Man Utd special.
I can see why our transfers take so long now. Glazers can’t make up their mind on anything.
Mood could always change if Jassim actually offers £6bn. Reckon that's what it would take for them to sell up and feck off
Yeah we are sluggish FC
Yeah, I know the rules have been tightened but I was intrigued to know if the debt was cleared will that give us great freedom to sign players and would that still be applicable if the debt was “moved” onto Ineos books like SJR is supposedly planning?
The whole saga is completely depressing now.
I keep thinking about what people did in 1998. A few months before United's greatest triumph. What happened to out support?
If Murdoch had tried to buy United now instead of that year, we'd have people at OT waving Australian flags saying we need him to win the Champions League and that if he doesn't buy us, we'll be relegated to the National League. Imagine though, if he had bought us? Sure, we'd have a couple more titles but imagine being intrinsically linked with that man forever?
The number of fans willing to sell what remains of our soul for vague assumptions of future success makes me feel really ill.
Accepting that they're the lesser of two or three evils is fair (even if I don't see it like that) but actively cheering this people on to buy the club is just so grim.
I keep thinking about what people did in 1998. A few months before United's greatest triumph. What happened to out support?
If Murdoch had tried to buy United now instead of that year, we'd have people at OT waving Australian flags saying we need him to win the Champions League and that if he doesn't buy us, we'll be relegated to the National League. Imagine though, if he had bought us? Sure, we'd have a couple more titles but imagine being intrinsically linked with that man forever?
The number of fans willing to sell what remains of our soul for vague assumptions of future success makes me feel really ill.
Accepting that they're the lesser of two or three evils is fair (even if I don't see it like that) but actively cheering this people on to buy the club is just so grim.
Its pretty much like playing Takeover Bingo. The virtue signalling brigade will harp on about the evils of Qatar, whilst viewing the Caf on a device that's components have been mined using child labour in DR Congo. They also have the arrogance to think their worldview should be the same for everyone, ignoring the fact a lot of people have different social values and that it doesn't align with their own when it comes to certain topics.
Well the notion that SJR is skint, the pauper in this takeover or doesn’t have the money will soon be squashed when people read the new Times 2023 Rich list, he’s estimated worth is now more than the Abu Dhabi owner of Man City Sheikh Mansour at £29.68 billion, so those fans of SJ and Qatar may now rethink that he doesn’t have the money, if he wants he can easily bid 69% of £5.5bn and build a big stadium for £1bn and still have £25 billion left.
The irony is he may actually want to spend more money on the club just to see it restored before he passes the torch on.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sunday-times-rich-list
The irony is he may actually want to spend more money on the club just to see it restored before he passes the torch on.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sunday-times-rich-list
He is obsessed with sustainability and had never spent the money needed to seriously compete in the leagues his clubs are in
Such as???
I have it on good authority that absolutely f*cking nothing will happen today.
From day 1 right until the very end, these bastards continue to destroy our club. It wasn't my first choice when they first talked about selling but I've got everything crossed for the Sheikh! We need no Glazer anywhere near this club moving forwards and I genuinely believe the Sheikh will invest in a lot more than the playing squad. If this isn't resolved soon our summer is done for!
No doubt he is a brilliant businessman and no doubt he and his company will become even wealthier, they seem to be doing a multi billion pound deal every few weeks. He is self made and genius level, if he and his company were a further 5 years down their growth road they would be unquestionably ahead in my opinion. However at this point they are not and have chosen to borrow heavily whilst leveraging their assets. Does Jim or our fan base have the ability to wait another 5 years? Either way much better than what we have now.
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Absolutely - We need the Sheikh and we need him quick!
Haha, so true
They can. Being private property they have the right to refuse entry/eject anyone for any reason as long as they don't discriminate against anyone that falls within a protected characteristic status. So they could say "no banners or you're out" and legally, you'd be fecked.
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