It's not. As Radcliffe promised that Nice would challenge PSG and not only that didn't happened but they actually became worse than with the previous owner. Thats a good indication of what we can expect.
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Yet another post that totally disregards the main reasons that many are against the qatar bid. Nice one.
Okay, I guess their statement isn't about what they stated.
Plucking a random example out of thin air... What about... PSG?
How do their fans currently feel about their owners and club on general. Let's head live to the ongoing protests outside the ground to get a sense of the feeling from the PSG fans...
I don't care about any of your reasons. At all.
As in “marginal gains” Sir Dave? While we might lose the odd laptop on the way and have an outbreak of asthma, with some new mattresses and pillows, Sancho and Martial will be running around like Park Ji Sung.
I've said it a few times but they really are perpetually miserable. Your club spending never before seen amounts so that you can watch the world's most talented forwards feck it up constantly is seemingly not the path to joy.
Yup. Radcliffe will be worse as owner than Moyes was manager for United.
Ineos aren't exactly poor though are they? City haven't spent much more than us and we've been saddled with debt. The difference comes down to ambition, competence, and how well that money has been spent. We don't need a bottomless pit of money to compete with them
So you're saying we're getting to the Champions League semi finals?
The good times are back guys!
PSG fans are like Chelsea and City fans. They don't remember what it was used to be before their current ownership. They feel entitled to winning things, PSG fans protest because they fail in the UCL while disregarding their local success as if it's a given. They think of themselves as a huge club and they punish the owners. Maybe they should be a little more grateful to them considering they only have 10 league titles, 8 from the current ownership in the last 10 years.
Maybe that was his initial plan and then he heard whispers of the Glazers getting itchy feet?
You just don't know. Nobody does.
When it's official I will grit my teeth and begrudgingly back Ratcliffe,however the lack of clarification on dealing with debt and stadium/training facilities is greatly concerning
It's mixed. Ultras don't really like QSI because at the very beginning they tried to "clean" the stadium by getting rid of them which led to a terrible atmosphere, they eventually allowed them back but some of them didn't comeback and won't comeback until QSI leaves. After that it's a mixed bag some are happy because PSG has a won a lot and others wants/expect more.
They are essentially no different other big clubs supporters.
Your memory is rosier than the reality here, I think.
You're stretching it quite a bit don't you think?
Their statement was about ensuring that "Any owner of Manchester United must commit to making football a sport for everyone". That's pretty nebulous and certainly does not conclusively end at members of the LGBT community simply being allowed to exist within football, as you suggest it does.
I'm extending Rainbow Devils the courtesy of assuming they aren't thick enough to believe that Sheikh Jassim was going to ban LGBT people from the stadium, or otherwise explicitly discriminate against them, upon taking over at United. Therefore, I'm assuming there are other factors driving their decision to issue such a statement, such as the conflict that any LGBT players, staff or supporters might have in representing a club owned by representative's of the Qatari state, or the fact that Qatari state ownership of Manchester United might well legitimise their position on homosexuality in the minds of some Manchester United fans (i.e. sportswashing). Evidently, you don't wish to extend them this same courtesy, and would rather assume that they were genuinely naive enough to fear they might be banished from the stadium upon Sheikh Jassim's prospective take over of the club.
Did moyes reach the semi finals? I remember bayern knocking us out in the quarter finals. Wasn't moyes sacked before the semi finals were done
You have to admire the likes of @JagUTD @Nou_Camp99 & @Plant0x84 who genuinely believe Ratcliffe will be good owner
In Tory Britain people are very much discouraged from removing them via their media friends, but that's beside the point. We cannot control what happens in Quatar, just like we can't control what the Tories get up to. Similarly, we don't know what Jim's personal opinions are and can't really judge. We also don't know what Jassim's opinions are, and he can't really be judged by the country he's from as a whole. It's racist to just assume that because he's from Qatar, he represents every value the country as a whole does.
Also, wanting something that's best for the club doesn't make anyone complicit in something that they have absolutely no control over. I fully expect that you'll be gone from the forum and no longer supporting United if they take over though, if that's what you believe.
Why aren't Girona top of La Liga? Maybe the City football group are ruining them then?
Him buying Nice has no bearing on United. What experience does this Sheikh Jassim have in football? None as far as I can tell.
The Glazers should be harangued for their conduct towards the club more than ever. Jim too for keeping them here. The whole thing is a joke.
Get ready for the normalisation of 6th/7th place as a good season. He’s that good.
As opposed to you lot, who think we're doomed never to compete for anything again and that Ratcliffe will be "just as bad if not worse than the Glazers" on the basis of absolutely sweet feck all?
It's more likely he looked at the reckless spending of PSG and thought it was pointless to even try. If Ligue 1 has shown us anything, it's that every so often PSG will implode and if you happen to be the one side in France that gets everything right on that season, you can win the league. Money for the other clubs plays very little part.
Didn't we chemically castrate homosexuals? Maybe not as bad as execution but its certainly the kind of thing that would disqualify you as an owner for many on here
You believe Qatar will be despite the fact we all have a pretty good inkling that their bid isn't a transparent one and this Sheikh Jassim fellow has absolutely no experience whatsoever in football and sport.
Two can play that game.
I havent followed the details of the bids at all as the world of billionaires doesnt interest me in the slightest
Is the summary this....
Ratcliffe is going to be the new majority owner and his model keeps the glazers in some way and doesnt really change the way we are run financially.
And lots of people are pissed off as the oil money was tantalisingly close but now is gone.
And the club is doomed?
Is that the general gist?
Is the summary this....
Ratcliffe is going to be the new majority owner and his model keeps the glazers in some way and doesnt really change the way we are run financially.
And lots of people are pissed off as the oil money was tantalisingly close but now is gone.
And the club is doomed?
Is that the general gist?
Writing has been on the wall for the past two weeks. Gutted with the outcome, yes its not confirmed yet but
in the initial Times article it mentions the Raine group and the Qataris have had limited contact since the third bid was lodged, coupled with the posts about INEOS taking a lead strongly indicates this is the eventual outcome.
in the initial Times article it mentions the Raine group and the Qataris have had limited contact since the third bid was lodged, coupled with the posts about INEOS taking a lead strongly indicates this is the eventual outcome.
It's not what I suggested. You are essentially making up their statement and mine, QSI literally celebrate pride day, this sin't just allowing them to exist, it's not even passively accepting it, it's participating to a political and media campaign in favor of the LGBT community. Which is why I asked you why they would feel excluded if a qatari purchased the club.
It is. Moyes lied to me. He said yesterday that he reached the semi finals of the Champions League.
I'll never believe a gollum lookalike again.
How can they look at Nice and think this is okay? Worlds gone mad!
There's nothing to back up claims he won't be a good owner. We're heading into unknown territory. What it all comes down to really is those who want to be owned by a state, therefore presumably having unlimited wealth, and those who aren't arsed. Those who want unlimited wealth are annoyed at the prospect of Ratcliffe owning United and throwing their toys out the pram and claiming he'll be useless, without anything to back it up. Other than the occasional nonsense link to Nice, as if that has any bearing on owning a club valued at £5bn
Basically yeah.
Hissy fit brigade aren't happy they aren't getting their oil money it would seem as things stand. That's all this is.
A year ago if Sir Jim had stepped forward with this bid and there was no sign of Qatar the opinions on this thread would be much different which says it all.
Point me in the direction of Sheikh Jassim experience in football and sport. Oh wait....
City group didn't promise Girona to be top of the league. Radcliffe did promise that to Nice, he has failed there's no two ways about it.
You're right Jassim doesn't have experience in football but I guess that's better than Radcliffe who has experience failing.
There is a huge concern that instead of a €1bn debt we’d have a $5bn debt but yeh choose to ignore that.
Whats he failed at? Not spending billions competing with PSG for the signings of Mbappe and Neymar?
It doesn't make sense that Qatar lose this deal over ~500m
They are proposing billions in infrastructural investment and clearing the debt. If they want it they will get it.
They are proposing billions in infrastructural investment and clearing the debt. If they want it they will get it.
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