I remember when we were partly run by that beautiful bald man with the overbite, good ole' Avram. We didn't appreciate his magnificent splendour until it was too late. Bless.
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Avram was the one who looked like a Leprechaun right?
Oh wait that was Malcolm. Avram is the one who looks like he'd be on every state register.
Well, being bought by an organisation that their primary target isn't earning money, but allowing the club to flourish to its full potential.
Cheers. Hopefully it’s just a case of the glazers wanting to appear as if there is a ton of offers for the club, in a effort to drive up the price.
Very normal post.
It’s the national game! As in, owned by nations….
Look, if oil money makes our facilities the best in the world, so we are literally nurturing Manchester talent better than ever. Still having the ethos we always have with a world class youth setup, with the best scouting network to bring in world class talent. It’s not much different to what we have. In fact the last 10/15 years with having this galactico like transfer strategy has been very much unlike united.
City have a great local talent in Foden. Probably a few more to come in too. Plus a great women’s team. Built with Oil money but using local talent.
Using anti racist language to defend a state monarchy is very 2022.
To think you're full of crap? Yes it is. I doubt you have fully thought this through. I can't imagine needing to pick a new team. I find it quite funny in fact, like when one of my kids claimed she would never go to school again because she got teased at recess.
Exactly this.
We don't need a galacticos project, we tried it under the Manbaby twit for a decade an it got us nowhere.
The money that we need is for investing in infrastructure and continuing to nurture talents like we've always done. And also means we can actually get signings done efficiently when we need to, instead of dithering over several windows only to end up overpaying anyway out of desperation.
I would say their primary target is to use the club as a PR vehicle to further their other business interests
I expect many of those opposed to United being owned by, for example, Saudi Arabia, would not immediately walk away if such a takeover were to happen, but rather they'd find that over time, it simply would become quite difficult to care anymore. Any successes that came, would just ring rather hollow.
Wasn't this written before Ornstein broke Glazers we're having talks with Qatar and Saudi?
Yeah. We just need someone who will makee us trail blazers again, as we had always been before the Glazers took over.
Maybe so. However, allowing us to be Manchester United again is what I want.
We were only "trail blazers" because of the manager and the young squad he'd brought through, meaning he just needed additions every year. I cant imagine with the way were were structured we'd have had the success we had with Martin Edwards way of running the club. His wage structure and lack of wanting to get into a bidding war was criminal for the amount of money the club was generating. Billionaire owners would bring in unprecedented finances for a Manchester United regime.
United winning the world cup in the US while the Glazer's have to watch in the VIP boxIt’s the national game! As in, owned by nations….
Cool story bro.
It's weird. When I watch City play disgustingly beautiful football I hardly ever think about oil money. I hate City as much as I hate Pool, but I must remember to remember that one is owned by benevolent folks and the other by an evil state.
At least he's consistent in the quality of his posts
I'm not sure of the timing of whatever Ornstein has written/said on the subject, but the first line of the Athletic piece mentions that Avram held meetings with potential investors whilst in Qatar last week (and includes his quotes to The Athletic).
There may well be wealthy institutions or individuals from the ME who are interested, but that is quite distinct from nation states.
I admire your optimism, I take a much more pessimistic view though
I think we're heading to a two-tier system in football (state owned vs private owned).. with a massive divide between the two, and in general people slowly losing interest in the sport as a result
I fear the United we all loved is long gone, and isn't coming back
so you don't think about how their defensive recruits since Peps arrival cost nearly as much as our starting XI????
Nope. I told you it's weird. I must learn to think about these things. Context.
Is gaining the morale side over regime apologists really a thing of importance compared to that our club will be on a regime's hand though?
That's like the smallest victory compared to the biggest loss of culture in my opinion. Like it wasn't enough that the Glazers tainted us for this long.
But what is that United you refer to
Not necessarily
Not necessarily the oil states have quite a sizeable investment across the globe, the Saudis have huge development plans within their own country. Judging by City they’re doing a rather good job and if we’re not bought it will be Liverpool. So many companies already have oil or state investment around the world. We would be another high profile investment and I’m sure the majority of Utd will accept these owners if there is success on and off the pitch.
I think it would be quite hard to love a sportswashing vehicle for a despicable, authoritarian regime. You might admire the impressive football their team of expensively assembled mercenaries play under the shadow of the Saudi Aramco Arena, but it would all feel rather hollow and soulless. I certainly know a few City fans who feel that way. Over time, I think the last connection that some fans have with the sport (at least at the top level) would wither away and die.
One needn't condone the behaviour of the owner/s of the club you support...
But Sir Matt pushed for Europe. Pushed for corporate boxes at OT, etc.
Glazers kept such a tight regime, they wouldn't authorise for the pool to on after a certain time.
ME should allow us to be where we should be, at the top. Not restricting EtH like all the other previous managers under the ownership of the Glazers.
the one I've been supporting and loved for three decades
everyones idea of what United are is obviously slightly different based on your own experiences
but my point is it won't ever be the same if we're owned by a state
and it isn't just state ownership that is changing the game, obviously.. it's changing so quickly due to the amount of money involved compared to before
And I totally agree with that. What United means to everyone is going to be different.
Couldn't you brits just have gotten a dictator. It would be much easier to just save a national cultural institution that way and put it in non-owner hands.
The money we generate ourselves as a club is enough to compete with the biggest out there. It's ridiculous and unnecessary that we're in talks with oil-state backed funds in the first place.
Really hope there'll be some sort of political intervention / outcry against this.
The money we generate ourselves as a club is enough to compete with the biggest out there. It's ridiculous and unnecessary that we're in talks with oil-state backed funds in the first place.
Really hope there'll be some sort of political intervention / outcry against this.
Who, in your opinion, should buyout the Glazers?
There would be outcry in some sections of the media and among large swathes of the fanbase, but you'd also see plenty of fans donning mock headdresses and fake Sheikh outfits outside Old Trafford, chanting for the new owners to buy them Mbappe. Ultimately, I can't see the football authorities blocking a nation state purchasing United and/or Liverpool - not when it would likely be so lucrative for these self same authorities.
Feasible scenario. 50% now, then they might wait to see how the economy pans out. Imagine if there is a recession and asset prices drop further, the billion or so they save when buying the next 50% can go to building the stadium.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this is far further along than anticipated in the media. Murtough's comments to ETH about the allocation in finances. The Glazers present at the world cup when they usually show minimal sporting interest. Those are pretty significant signs.
The world cup was undoubtedly an on-field success I wouldn't be surprised to see some consortium from the middle east / Quatar follow up the momentum from the tournament with a club acquisition.
The world cup was undoubtedly an on-field success I wouldn't be surprised to see some consortium from the middle east / Quatar follow up the momentum from the tournament with a club acquisition.
What doesn't ring true is why do you fly to someone to sell to them? Surely the buyers do that hard work put in airmiles? The seller doesn't chase.
We should relocate the franchise to Manchester New Hampshire, join the MLS and be kings of America. Hell, maybe we can even lure Ronaldo back in the MLS.United winning the world cup in the US while the Glazer's have to watch in the VIP box
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