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jm99 said:
People who think signing mbappe or players of his profile would turn us into a circus. We've managed 6 more goals than Leeds this year, just about any attacking signing would be a welcome boost at this point
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People are applying it to any player, good or bad. The owners shouldn't be making those calls.

Using Mbappe as an example of why they should isn't great either, players like him undermine the manager constantly, which of course helps lead to a club becoming an absolute farce, or in the case of PSG, a circus.
 
Berbaclass said:
Twitter guy is saying that he's heard that Qatar are now exclusive and news will start breaking in the next 24 hours, tonight or after the game tomorrow. They didn't make a 3rd bid and essentially said come back when Ratcliffe has reached his top number and we'll beat it.

Says the Qataris dealt with the Glazers directly in the last 5-6 days to speed things up.

Make of it what you will :wenger:
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Dude, I hope you are as right about this as you were about Frenkie :wenger:
 
jm99 said:
People who think signing mbappe or players of his profile would turn us into a circus. We've managed 6 more goals than Leeds this year, just about any attacking signing would be a welcome boost at this point
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Is Chelsea not proof this isn't always true?
 
JagUTD said:
People are applying it to any player, good or bad. The owners shouldn't be making those calls.

Using Mbappe as an example of why they should isn't great either, players like him undermine the manager constantly, which of course helps lead to a club becoming an absolute farce, or in the case of PSG, a circus.
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It depends though, look at real Madrid, incredibly well run, financially secure, building a new stadium, consistently reach the latter stages of the champions league. Perez has far more say in transfers than any of the managers do and its incredibly successful for them, sometimes it isn't a bad idea to have a long term team building vision set by someone who isn't a manager that will often change every 3-4 years. Now it might be best to have a director of football do this, or it might be better leaving transfers in the hands of the manager, but there are different approaches that can be successful
 
DOTA said:
Is Chelsea not proof this isn't always true?
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I reckon any of the players Chelsea have signed would be better than weghorst. No, splashing 600m on 10 new players and trying to integrate them with 3 different managers across the course of the season isn't a template we should be following. But equally signing mbappe would more than likely be fantastic, haaland has been great for City, neymar and suarez were great signings for Barca, Ronaldo worked out phenomenally well for real Madrid. Signing players who've proven themselves to be the best at their peak is rarely a bad move, signing overpriced players who've done OK, or players in their 30s past their best isn't
 
Almost 5 days since the third round of bids was completed and so far I haven’t seen one single relevant leak from any of the bidders or some relevant news from the RG. For me that’s a sign that this auction is still ongoing.
 
@Berbaclass source might be full of BS but at least it’s brightened up this depressing thread a bit.

Far more interesting than reading the back and forth between the Qatar v Jassim lot.

@HarryP (who I think is GlastonSpur if you compare their posting styles) will be praying these new rumours are BS.
 
Mr. Robot said:
@Berbaclass source might be full of BS but at least it’s brightened up this depressing thread a bit.

Far more interesting than reading the back and forth between the Qatar v Jassim lot.

@HarryP (who I think is GlastonSpur if you compare their posting styles) will be praying these new rumours are BS.
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This might be the harshest thing anyone's ever said on this forum.
 
Mr. Robot said:
@HarryP (who I think is GlastonSpur if you compare their posting styles) will be praying these new rumours are BS.
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Jesus mate attack the post not the poster that’s brutal.

Also you joined after Glaston was banned…
 
Baxquux said:
:lol: Why are you being aggressive, dude? I didn't say that it was unreasonable to look at his record more closely and ask whether he's the best pick for united; that's a fair and interesting discussion point, and it wasn't trying to 'school' anyone. I'm just saying that his record clearly isn't solely composed of 'failures' you mention, otherwise he'd have a negligible professional reputation.

I'm not an expert on Mitchell's career but obviously his name has come up in various articles over the years, including when he was linked with a job at united or more recently for Chelsea, and they would mention various names (including Nathaniel at Southampton, who they sold to Liverpool; Toby A and Dele and Son at Tottenham; Tchouameni at Monaco, RB's american contingent) in the papers/athletic/aggregators. Obviously he wasn't the only person involved in those deals, but same would go for the guys you mention...
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I'm sorry you feel I'm being aggressive. I was hoping you would give me a little bit more detail on what you know about Mitchell, which potentially could've educated me on his career. Because from what I know about Mitchell and the players he's signed at his clubs, his work as a head of recruitment isn't anything outstanding. He was just another run of the mill head of recruitment at EPL level and I've seen records of scouts already at the club who have a better record of identifying talent. One of those scouts is a chap called Gerardo Guzman who joined in 2016, and was formerly at Atletico Madrid and Villarreal. And below are some of the players he's been credited with discovering. And I'm sure there's players he identified that didn't live upto their potential. But my point is that it's very naive to believe there's only one individual who has some sort of special codes which unlocks recruitment and identifies talent.

Garnacho is also his recommendation.



And I can go into more detail about the signings made under Mitchell at the clubs he worked at. And he's signed alot of underwhelming players even from his time at Southampton when he was signing players like Dani Osvaldo and Gaston Ramirez who were both failures. And his work as a DOF at a high enough level only happened at Monaco where he's leaving after only two seasons at the club. But unfortunately, we only hear about how he signed Mane or Son, but are not told by the media about the countless poor signings he's made at the clubs he was head of recruitment at.

And like JPRouve has already mentioned, it's the media bollocks that has created a narrative around Mitchell when in reality it's easy to find out who was signed under his watch when he was the head of recruitment at clubs like Soton, Spurs and Leipzig. Players like Tchouameni were already at Monaco before Mitchell arrived and there's a difference between a head of recruitment and a DoF, which some in the media have confused.
 
Giggsyking said:
Off course Ed was the major problem, but his choices were always a joint decision with the manager, I dont think any player was forced on the manager (maybe the only case Ronaldo was forced on Ole).
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Really? In that case my annual pay review is a joint decision with my employer… Wake up.
 
Pexbo said:
Jesus mate attack the post not the poster that’s brutal.

Also you joined after Glaston was banned…
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I’ve read RedCafe for many years for my football news requirements. It’s open to the public. I also post at two other places and they’re saying the same, that @HarryP is GlastonSpur :)
 
This thread has shifted a bit since I last checked, whats the latest? The Qataris out in front now? or just another rumour?
 
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