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Rojofiam said:
I've literally never ever seen anyone on Twitter pretending to be an ITK actually get something right, but for some reason I'm still a bit scared :lol:
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Take some solace in the fact that every single pro Qatari twitter account has a 100% record in bullshit.
 
Sounds more like Qatar pushing out BS to try and inflate the share price and mess with Sir Jim's deal
 
Fascinated by these rumors. Do we have any Doha-based posters who can keep a lookout for the Glazer clan?
 
Mockney said:
figures. This Is exactly the kind of dumb shit the 15 year old twitter fans want to happen. Also precisely what United shouldn’t be doing… but what does that matter anymore
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It is most probably BS made up by Falk.
But, yes, we should not sign the best attacking player in the world and one of the best MF in the world and I am sure Erik would be sad if it happens :lol:.
 
JPRouve said:
He had nothing to do with Tchouaméni. Monaco is also his first job as a DOF before that he was scouting specialist.
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I'm just going off the articles which cited AT as one of his 'spots'; I think they both joined in same Summer, so it's quite possible he didn't have anything to do with it, or equally he might take passed on recommendations or fed into decision prior to officially joining or whatever. As I say, whether he should be DOF or head of scouting hypothetically, that's a fair discussion but also a different one. The initial point was just about pushing back slightly on this narrative that he can't spot a player. Again, not up on the ins and outs of PM's career though...
 
Giggsyking said:
It is most probably BS made up by Falk.
But, yes, we should not sign the best attacking player in the world and one of the best MF in the world and I am sure Erik would be sad if it happens :lol:.
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Camavinga and Mbappe is exactly what United should be doing, but it's clearly fantasy.

And yeah, people here like pretending that "trusting" the manager with transfers is somehow an infallible route.
 
Baxquux said:
I'm just going off the articles which cited AT as one of his 'spots'; I think they both joined in same Summer, so it's quite possible he didn't have anything to do with it, or equally he might take passed on recommendations or fed into decision prior to officially joining or whatever. As I say, whether he should be DOF or head of scouting hypothetically, that's a fair discussion but also a different one. The initial point was just about pushing back slightly on this narrative that he can't spot a player. Again, not up on the ins and outs of PM's career though...
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Those articles are BS. And Tchouaméni joined in january not during summer, he joined before Petrov even decided to delegate that role.
 
Baxquux said:
:lol: Why are you being aggressive, dude? I didn't say that it was unreasonable to look at his record more closely and ask whether he's the best pick for united; that's a fair and interesting discussion point, and it wasn't trying to 'school' anyone. I'm just saying that his record clearly isn't solely composed of 'failures' you mention, otherwise he'd have a negligible professional reputation.

I'm not an expert on Mitchell's career but obviously his name has come up in various articles over the years, including when he was linked with a job at united or more recently for Chelsea, and they would mention various names (including Nathaniel at Southampton, who they sold to Liverpool; Toby A and Dele and Son at Tottenham; Tchouameni at Monaco, RB's american contingent) in the papers/athletic/aggregators. Obviously he wasn't the only person involved in those deals, but same would go for the guys you mention...
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You're arguing with Murtough's son-in-law there. I wouldn't even bother.
 
Giggsyking said:
It is most probably BS made up by Falk.
But, yes, we should not sign the best attacking player in the world and one of the best MF in the world and I am sure Erik would be sad if it happens :lol:.
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Should probably ask him first rather than have the potential new owners deciding who they want to buy instead ey? Wasnt one of the biggest problems with the Glazers reign over the past decade that they put non-football people in charge of big decisions? Or does that not matter now, as long as you get your fun FIFA transfers?
 
Mockney said:
Should probably ask him first rather than have the potential new owners deciding who they want to buy instead ey? Wasnt one of the biggest problems with the Glazers reign over the past decade that they put non-football people in charge of big decisions? Or does that not matter now, as long as you get your fun FIFA transfers?
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No the big problem with the Glazer reign is that the board relied entirely on the manager for the big football decisions and it only works if you have people like SAF or Wenger who were essentially the last one working under such system at the highest level.
 
Dr. Dwayne said:
Darcie is more interested in the Buccs than us. :(
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Ha, which is why, in this 'fantasy' scenario (a very poor fantasy compared with let's get taken over by actual, wealthy fans instead of the Glazer clan,. admittedly) she/they would have known 'what they don't know' - decisions currently seem to be driven by 2 particular, 'dunning-kruger' siblings, who've been carrying others along as 'silent', indifferent partners who've been held from already selling largely by the promise of a larger imminent 'cash-out' - and brought in some normal top table advisor to make the 'asset' ripe for sale after SAF by in turn recruiting a specialist CEO, rather than Eddy, bringing in a proven manager and winning a couple more trophies without the owners having any pretentions towards interfering in footballing decisions.

All the while, they'd get the equivalent of Raine to discreetly sound out the prospect of a sale in next 24 months so they could spend it on, i guess, the Buccs or investments in more familiar sectors or whatever. Modest but IMO 'plausible' what-if...
 
Giggsyking said:
It is most probably BS made up by Falk.
But, yes, we should not sign the best attacking player in the world and one of the best MF in the world and I am sure Erik would be sad if it happens :lol:.
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I see you are still missing the point :lol:
 
Mockney said:
Should probably ask him first rather than have the potential new owners deciding who they want to buy instead ey? Wasnt one of the biggest problems with the Glazers reign over the past decade that they put non-football people in charge of big decisions? Or does that not matter now, as long as you get your fun FIFA transfers?
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It is quite the opposite, the Glazers left every decision to Jose, Ole and LVG that ruined the club. We had no vision and every manager signed different style of players. But even if you are right, dont make up silly stuff like there could be a normal manager who would say no to Mbappe and Camavinga.
 
TsuWave said:
Camavinga and Mbappe is exactly what United should be doing, but it's clearly fantasy.

And yeah, people here like pretending that "trusting" the manager with transfers is somehow an infallible route.
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The owners only input should be signing off the funds. It's not difficult.
 
JagUTD said:
I see you are still missing the point :lol:
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There is no point to miss. It is obvious unless you are biased, that even signing the best players in the world is turning into a negative. I am sure If we exchange the Qatar name with Ineos in that tweet you will run naked in this thread from happiness.
 
Can’t be too many flights in the past few days with the itinerary of Tampa to Doha, if that rumour is even true. Can you check archived flights on FlightRadar24? :p

Either way, that article about the INEOS bid being preferred hasn’t really escalated since it got released last week. You’d think things would be ramping up from the INEOS side if so.

So basically it’s still up in the air and nobody outside of the process knows.
 
Giggsyking said:
There is no point to miss. It is obvious unless you are biased, that even signing the best players in the world is turning into a negative. I am sure If we exchange the Qatar name with Ineos in that tweet you will run naked in this thread from happiness.
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No, lots of people think that sort of recruitment would be awful, including many people who prefer the Qatar bid.
 
Giggsyking said:
It is quite the opposite, the Glazers left every decision to Jose, Ole and LVG that ruined the club. We had no vision and every manager signed different style of players. But even if you are right, dont make up silly stuff like there could be a normal manager who would say no to Mbappe and Camavinga.
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What like Pogba & Ronaldo worked out for us? Or Mbappe & Neymar has worked out for PSG?

Absolutely ridiculous to be saying the owners should be choosing who we buy without the managers input. Whoever the players are. All the wrong priorities
 
Giggsyking said:
It is quite the opposite, the Glazers left every decision to Jose, Ole and LVG that ruined the club. We had no vision and every manager signed different style of players. But even if you are right, dont make up silly stuff like there could be a normal manager who would say no to Mbappe and Camavinga.
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This the same Ole painted as a yes man?

The same Jose who went head to head with the Glazers and their management of the club?

Ole definitely had players forced upon him. You may remember one of them, young lad called Ronnie. Worked out fantastic for both.

The idea the let the managers make all the footballing decisions goes against half the arguments against their ownership of the club. Then we have the enigma that was Ed Woodward. Mr Disney Warchest himself.
 
Giggsyking said:
There is no point to miss. It is obvious unless you are biased, that even signing the best players in the world is turning into a negative. I am sure If we exchange the Qatar name with Ineos in that tweet you will run naked in this thread from happiness.
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The response would be exactly the same. You continue to miss the point, which makes sense as you can't even grasp the point being made...

It's really, really simple.
 
mu4c_20le said:
The share price also affects the value of the club so if it gets inflated too much it could kill the deal.
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I'm sure the last episode of succession has made you feel like an expert on business, but this doesn't really work when the shares are already going at a ludicrous premium, the market cap of the club is something like 3bn, or 3.5bn so when the offer is closer to 6bn a 20% increase is irrelevant, particularly when that increase will evaporate if the current owners don't feck off
 
JagUTD said:
Hope they clean up after themselves
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Twitter guy is saying that he's heard that Qatar are now exclusive and news will start breaking in the next 24 hours, tonight or after the game tomorrow. They didn't make a 3rd bid and essentially said come back when Ratcliffe has reached his top number and we'll beat it.

Says the Qataris dealt with the Glazers directly in the last 5-6 days to speed things up.

Make of it what you will :wenger:
 
Berbaclass said:
Twitter guy is saying that he's heard that Qatar are now exclusive and news will start breaking in the next 24 hours, tonight or after the game tomorrow. They didn't make a 3rd bid and essentially said come back when Ratcliffe has reached his top number and we'll beat it.

Says the Qataris dealt with the Glazers directly in the last 5-6 days to speed things up.

Make of it what you will :wenger:
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Who is this twitter guy though? Somebody reliable or some random
 
Giggsyking said:
It is quite the opposite, the Glazers left every decision to Jose, Ole and LVG that ruined the club. We had no vision and every manager signed different style of players. But even if you are right, dont make up silly stuff like there could be a normal manager who would say no to Mbappe and Camavinga.
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Did we not have Ed Woodward running things for years and making the final decisions on what players to sign? I'm sure that's why Jose had his meltdown in the end because he wasn't allowed to get rid of players and bring in who he wanted
 
Berbaclass said:
Twitter guy is saying that he's heard that Qatar are now exclusive and news will start breaking in the next 24 hours, tonight or after the game tomorrow. They didn't make a 3rd bid and essentially said come back when Ratcliffe has reached his top number and we'll beat it.

Says the Qataris dealt with the Glazers directly in the last 5-6 days to speed things up.

Make of it what you will :wenger:
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Looking forward to this going back to Ratcliffe then to Qatar and so on.
 
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