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And now we come full circle, there is no way Qatar through 92 Foundation with lifelong Red Sheikh Jasim dropping a cool $6.5-7bn on the club will not want to interfere, he will be all over transfers and player recruitment. Personally I think they , Qatar are making sure there will be no delays through EPL for and proper test and UEFA then drop the bid. This then gives then a unique advantage as they have two Elite Teams in Europe plus Braga as a feeder club.


PSG are completely over trading with a current wage bill 107% of their actual turnover. They have to sell players or let Neymar or Messi go as they can only spend 90% of wages, transfer and agent fees. Imagine having another super club where they easily transfer players between clubs. Let’s assume that Messi leaves PSG and they save €1m per week, which will help but they still need to sell 1 or 2 players.

Hypothetically they decide Neymar and Hakimi are offered to United in return for H Maguire and Martial. They value Neymar at £50m and Hakimi £50m and Maguire at £50m and Martial at £30m , that’s right hyper inflated fees. That means United spend £20m for Neymar and Hakimi we have more than enough scope to afford their increased wages, difference being £450k per week leaving and £850k per week going into our wage bill.

PSG benefit hugely as they now have the leeway to buy V Osimhen on top at £125m on a 5 year contract and offer him £300k per week plus they can absorb Maguire and Martial wage. This is the sort of crooked transfers which will be common between the two clubs and this is what worries the EPL as it’s clear this is not a private bid.

If you're in any way worried that Qatar would use us to benefit PSG I think you're miles off. We're in a totally different league, brand wise, and would be by soem distance the jewel in their crown, psg would take a back seat to us, not the other way round
 
The DOF job is to align with the club not the manager. The manager can negotiate later but ultimately a DOF works for the club regardless of who the head coach is.
Well that sounds like a shit DOF if they dont align their strategy with the manager.
 
So why do we believe Christian Falk has got a hotline to Sheikh Jassim and knows who he would like to buy? What else does Christian know?

Why are people this gullible?
 
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If you're in any way worried that Qatar would use us to benefit PSG I think you're miles off. We're in a totally different league, brand wise, and would be by soem distance the jewel in their crown, psg would take a back seat to us, not the other way round
No your missing my point they would use PSG to benefit us, who else offers £50m for Harry Maguire, my point is as a united fan this would make me feel uneasy at best, literally our b team would be parked at PSG to win the farmers league but they can artificially inflate or deflate players values, it’s cheating and blatant cheating !
 
No your missing my point they would use PSG to benefit us, who else offers £50m for Harry Maguire, my point is as a united fan this would make me feel uneasy at best, literally our b team would be parked at PSG to win the farmers league but they can artificially inflate or deflate players values, it’s cheating and blatant cheating !

Ah OK, I doubt it tbh. While I'm not naive enough to think any Qatari bid would be separate from the state, I do think the two clubs would be run separately, the emir of Qatar is unlikely to take a hand in the actual running of football clubs, so while the money may come from the same source the footballing side of things would still be run independently of one another
 
I very much doubt Christian Falk will know what the intentions of the Qatari group are regards Man Utd.

And Paul Mitchell has got a lot wrong when it comes to recruitment and he was a total failure at Spurs hence he jumped before he was pushed after signing duds like Dier, Janssen, Wanyama, Georges-Kevin N'Koudou, Clinton N'Jie.

I'd say Mitchell has quite a few friends in the media.
I don't doubt that Mitchell has friends in the media, and he's been responsible for signing a few duds (though even amongst the ones you've mentioned, Wanyama was...OK. Dier isn't a top tier player, but he was cheap and was doing relatively well enough at one point that they could have sold him to a few clubs for a 800% profit, particularly us under Jose) but it presents a slightly skewed version of Mitchell's work. He didn't get hired by the Red Bull group (which is grounded on basically spotting promising assets in order to be developed and sold high) out of charity or just because he was someone's mate. Nor to Monaco. Doesn't mean he's a magic bullet DOF or director of scouting operations.

You'll always get a scattergun hit rate, particularly if you're operating at a mid budget and competing against teams with huge scouting staffs and draw. Even Brighton have struggled (until recently, perhaps, with Ferguson, and this is still a maybe) to identify a consistent goal-scorer amongst their other scouting successes...
 
Been called worse

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At this point I'd rather stick with the Glazers
You want to stick with the parasites because the new potential owner wants to bring the best striker in the world and one of the best midfielders in the world? We do deserve mediocrity.
 
That's been baffling me for a while. People keep saying it's "good PR" but Glazers didn't put what the fans want ahead of what earns them the most money when they were still in charge. So why would they start now, when they're about to walk away from the club forever?!

Exactly, yes,

It might be "good PR" for the buyer in the sense that fans will like it. But it has feck all to do with the actual sale of the club: the Glazers (obviously) don't factor this in when considering what offer is best for them.
 
He shouldn't be choosing who we sign.
People said the same about Ten Hag?
We are heavily linked with Kane, the Napoli striker, a 120m striker from Germany, FDJ while signing Casemiro last summer. 100m plus players each and all.
It’s blatantly obvious Ten Hag wants proven commodities so he goes after the big names or players he has worked with before and is sure what he can get from them.
The only reason we haven’t been linked with Mbappe and Camavinga before is because of the cost it would take to sign them.
It’s a bull shit report but Ten Hag would love it.
 
Well that sounds like a shit DOF if they dont align their strategy with the manager.

Not really. Generally the DOF chooses the head coach, he doesn't align to the head coach, the head coach is aligned with him.
 
Not really. Generally the DOF chooses the head coach, he doesn't align to the head coach, the head coach is aligned with him.

Manchester United fans are the type of folk who get taken for a walk by their dogs.
 
It is obvious bs from Falk. But there are people here who thinks ETH would say no to Mbappe and Camavenga :lol: .
 
Not really. Generally the DOF chooses the head coach, he doesn't align to the head coach, the head coach is aligned with him.
Generally yes, but it’s a bit different when the manager is in position before the DoF. There has to be a certain symmetry of approach otherwise ETH may as well walk in the summer.
 
You want to stick with the parasites because the new potential owner wants to bring the best striker in the world and one of the best midfielders in the world? We do deserve mediocrity.
This. Doesn't seem to hurt Real Madrid too much when it comes to the CL. Buying 2 A-class players in, or coming towards, their prime, with years to offer, and who would massievly improve the team in teh here and now is different to handing Ronnie a ridiculous contract, or Sanchez back in the day, or even, to an extent, the suggestion that we'd sign Neymar on a 5 year deal.

Not that any of these journalists actually know anything about transfer plans when ownership is still a way form being confirmed and nothing will have been directly discussed with Ten Hag except in the most general terms (and if that, probably mediated through a brief conversation with Murtough during the bid presentation talks, about what general vision might be, as opposed to any kind of specifics about 'this player')
 
Generally yes, but it’s a bit different when the manager is in position before the DoF. There has to be a certain symmetry of approach otherwise ETH may as well walk in the summer.

Maybe for the sake of long term success, it's best to just clean house. Like a manager deserves to get his players in, let the owner get his own folk in place.

Lets get it trending #BackTheOwner
 
Generally yes, but it’s a bit different when the manager is in position before the DoF. There has to be a certain symmetry of approach otherwise ETH may as well walk in the summer.

A certain symmetry yes, especially if the DOF rates the head coach but the DOF doesn't have to and likely won't align with the head coach. Also it's important to keep in mind that ETH has no experience building a team, even if you limit his experience to Ajax, Overmars built squads that were different and ETH had to adapt his tactics and approaches to what he was given. In fact the way he coached Ajax tactically wasn't similar to his tactical approach with Utrecht.

The point being that ETH is used to be the one adapting and not the other way around and that applies to most coaches on the continent and they don't walk, it's a normal part of their job.
 
Call me crazy but if the Qataris are talking to agents, presumably this is where Falk has got this from (Coman) then that is a pretty interesting sign. If true of course.
 
It is obvious bs from Falk. But there are people here who thinks ETH would say no to Mbappe and Camavenga :lol: .

It's insanity, we currently have wout weghorst up front, and have managed to score a few more goals than Leeds and Leicester, in the bottom 5. But let's turn our noses up at one of the best attacking players, if not the best, in the whole world
 
Call me crazy but if the Qataris are talking to agents, presumably this is where Falk has got this from (Coman) then that is a pretty interesting sign. If true of course.
Fecking hell mate, when was the last time you slept?

I’ll take over from here if you want?
 
It's insanity, we currently have wout weghorst up front, and have managed to score a few more goals than Leeds and Leicester, in the bottom 5. But let's turn our noses up at one of the best attacking players, if not the best, in the whole world
I dont blame them tbh, its a decade of mediocrity and they had (as our club) a mentality reset.
 
Crap joke, my bad. What I meant was, you’re quite busy in here and that I’ll take over your shift from here so you can get some rest.

Keep the tweets etc coming though, everyone else seems to have lost interest in the takeover now. Can’t blame them really, no-one seems to know how/if this deal is progressing.
 
Crap joke, my bad. What I meant was, you’re quite busy in here and that I’ll take over your shift from here so you can get some rest.

Keep the tweets etc coming though, everyone else seems to have lost interest in the takeover now. Can’t blame them really, no-one seems to know how/if this deal is progressing.
I'm good man. I've barely posted today, been at work
 
I don't doubt that Mitchell has friends in the media, and he's been responsible for signing a few duds (though even amongst the ones you've mentioned, Wanyama was...OK. Dier isn't a top tier player, but he was cheap and was doing relatively well enough at one point that they could have sold him to a few clubs for a 800% profit, particularly us under Jose) but it presents a slightly skewed version of Mitchell's work. He didn't get hired by the Red Bull group (which is grounded on basically spotting promising assets in order to be developed and sold high) out of charity or just because he was someone's mate. Nor to Monaco. Doesn't mean he's a magic bullet DOF or director of scouting operations.

You'll always get a scattergun hit rate, particularly if you're operating at a mid budget and competing against teams with huge scouting staffs and draw. Even Brighton have struggled (until recently, perhaps, with Ferguson, and this is still a maybe) to identify a consistent goal-scorer amongst their other scouting successes...
Then educate me on his work before I respond to you. Tell me the names of the players he signed at Southampton, Spurs, RBL etc and his role within the structure at those clubs?

And yes, Rangnick did hire people at the clubs he worked at because he knew them. One was a former player he brought in as the assistant Sporting director.
 
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